Top 5 Bots per Division-Einstein Predictions
 

Out of boredom and curiousity, I decided to make this thread.
I want to see what you all think will be the top 5 bots to watch out for, in each division. Put your 5 teams in order. I'll post mine later.
Archimedes.
Curie.
Galileo.
Newton.
Go.

Then, make your Predictions for Einstein.

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Arch- 217, 233, 33, 126
Curie- 1114, 469 ,610, 378, 70
Gal- 1126, 118, 494, 177, 173
Newton- 25, 1503, 111, 254, 195

Arc- 217 will choose 233 and go very far.
Curie- 1114 will take 1680 and do half way decent.
Gal-1126 will take 494 and make Einstien
Newton- I don't want to think about it right now.

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every time I see the team list for Newton, I shudder. *shudders*

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Just because i'm equally as bored, and unproductive

Galileo:1126,118,494, 173,1276
Curie: 1114,469,121,1680, 65
Archimedes: 233, 217, 20, 138, 191
Newton: 111, 71, 1503, 25, 254


Its gonna be interesting.
Best of luck to everyone going to Atlanta

Chris Carnevale
Team 229

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I feel that favorites can win however I have this weird feeling inside that is telling me the underdog robots will do good this year.

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Arch-217, 233, 343, 330, 33 "sleepers":1610, 357
Curie-1114, 469, 175, 1680, 70 "sleepers": 435, 1511, 222
Galileo-1126, 494, 118, 177, 16 "sleepers":190, 384, 237, 173
Newton-25, 254, 1503, 111, 968 "sleepers": 176, 1261, 40

Archimedes: 217 will likely win, probably with 233 (or 343, very similar design and identical results, a win and semi-finals) along for the ride.

Curie: A strong chance 1114 and 1680 will join forces, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a triplet/469 or a triplet/175 combo walking away division champions, especially if one of them is ranked above the triplets. A 469/70 or a 469/175 could knock off the 1114/1680 combo though.

Galileo: 494 and 118 join forces and take the division by storm.

Newton: Oh so many possible combinations of pain......
25/1503 and 25/254 sound like the scariest combos to me, and if one of them is formed, they could win the entire event. But don't sleep on 111 if they can get paired with another "big gun".

Einstein: Either Newton or Curie walk away Champs, I'm leaning twoards Newton. But everyone though Archimedes would win last year....


Edit: adjusted "wildcards" to "sleepers" for a more accurate representation of what I meant. These teams represent teams that are very dangerous, but not as "high-profile". They could potentially make a very excellent 2nd/3rd robot on an alliance, or be the teams that "sneak" into the top 8 to become and alliance captain.

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No mention of 25/111? Interesting. ;)

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Corey, the thread's only been open for 45 minutes. Give 'em time. :p

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Well I meant Sean's post only...but still jeez... :p

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Galileo - 16, 118, 365, 494, 1126

1126 picks 118, while 494 picks 16. -------- 1126 wins Galileo

Curie - 70, 79, 121, 395, 1114

1114 picks 121, while 70 picks 395. -------- 1114 wins Curie

Archimedes - 60, 217, 233, 343, 375

217 picks 233, while 375 picks 343 --------- 217 wins Archimedes

Newton - 25, 111, 254, 492, 1503

25 picks 111, while 254 picks 1503 ---------- 25 wins Newton

***Given that the divisions are set up as follows***

EINSTEIN SEMI-FINALS
Newton Def. Curie
Archimedes Def. Galileo

EINSTEIN FINALS
Newton Def. Archimedes

There is my picks.

**For those that read it previously sorry, I do not think 118 will spawn 2 robots. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes. They should be fixed now.**

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It is all about who you pick second round. We have scouted 80 % of the teams in our division. If we get lucky enough to seed in the top 8 then i think we will be in a great position. Being able to say no is a big deal not because you think a team is bad but because you do not want to get paired up with a robot that does the same thing you do.

Shaun

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Where is Galelao in that finals list

Archie- 217, 233, 343, 357 (if they play like they did at UCF) and 103, for wild cards, i got a couple of Defencive bots, watch out for 4 and 1902

I think 217 will take 233 and 4 along for a trip to einstine

Curie- 1114, 1680, 469, 70, 121 wild cards, 710(D-Fence) 180, 222, 1511, 1906

I think that 1680 will be low enough that they might slip by, (not with all the face value that is falling on them here on CD) and could end up with 1114/469. That allince books a ticket to Einstine

Galloleao- 1, 16, 86, 237, 341 ...ahhh, i give up

Newton- 25, 111, 254, 1503, 11, etc.......maybe us as a wild card if we can actually get everything working

25/111/229 will take it all the way
(yes, i think 229 will be sticking around that long)

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Galileo-177, 1126, 494, 173, 16 Wild card 547 or 27
Sparx and the Martians will align :D facing 177 and 173 in the finals. The 1126/494 aliance is just to hard to stop though.
Curie-That one team from Canada that one three regionals, 469, 70, 1024, 175 Wild Card 1680 222 395 451 (451 is the best robot no one has ever heard of)
I think 1114 and the Las Guerillas will align and break at least 120 points no matter who their partner is
Archimedes-233, 217, 343, 103, 60 Wild Card Killer Bees 33
The Chickens and Pink against MiM and the Cybersonics in the finals. A showdown for the ages with Pink and the Chickens coming out on top, barely.
Newton-111,25,1503, 254, 85 Wild Card 176, 71, 1272 and 968
If Wildstang and Raider Robotix can get together there might be a match where the scoring system EXPLODES. 1503 and 85 would be a similar combination as 111 and 25. That would be the finals match, unless 71 and 254 can pull some magic and knock them off. I think 111/25 will be playing on EInstein

Galileo Vs Curie
The Las Guerillas and Simbotics are able to stop the Martians and Sparx but barely, heading to the finals.
Archimedes Vs Newton
Pink and The Chickens are in for a battle, but they pull the upset of the century. They find the $@#$@#$@#$@#$@# in the armor of 111 (Only shoot at corners of ramp) and 25 (Only human load?).
Curie Vs Archimedes
This is when we get our second two time national champion. The Las Guerillas and Simbotics know what they are playing for and bring the pain. both aliances score in the hundreds both matches but Curie eeks out the Win.

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I think 25 should pick 111, with a second rounder of 195.

I know Corey loves that ;)

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With just one week until nationals, how can we say who going to pick who? This should only be about who you think the top five are in the division, or am I wrong. Anyhoo, don't ask me who I'm picking, because I don't know. I've never been good at seeing other robots and telling what there strengths and weaknesses are. I was wondering if or when someone might pick us. We did win a regional and were a finalist, but everyone probably knew that. But you never know whats going to happen on the field, we might be the #1 seed, or somewhere around 40th.

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I know that this thread is meant to be for fun and is an interesting mental exercise but make sure that you keep an open mind when scouting. There is a danger in having too many preconceived notions about the teams in your division.

In 2003 we had an excellent scouting crew. We seeded 4th and picked the 17th and 65th seeded teams based on their capabilities, track record, and complementary machine features. Everyone laughed at our picks and We ended up winning Galileo.

Sure we had a great machine, but we had even better scouting!!

Have fun with this thread, but choose carefully in Atlanta!!

Good luck to everyone next week!!

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Al, you took the words right out of mouth.

Every team has a shot in the competition next week. Look for every team in your divison to possibly enhance your strategy. Even the rookies can help you, ( GO ROOKIES). Like a "famous FIRST mentor" once told our team, " Every robot is a great robot and the underdog robots will show their mark on this competition"

Good Luck and Look For ALL THE TEAMS in your divison to help you out.

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Archimedies - 233 217 1138 343 69

Curie - 1114 1680 175 121 503

Galileo - 67 177 494 365 384

Newton - 254 25 111 1503 987

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G: 1126, 1625, 494, 86, 177 (extra: 118, 173, 1276)
A: 233, 217, 20, 330, 343
C: 1114, 469, 1024, 70, 451 (extra: 121, 1305)
N: 25, 111, 254, 1503, 968 (extra: 987, 85, 71)

G: 1126+494, or 1625+494
A: 217+233
C: 1114+469
N: MOTHER OF GOD!

Finals: Newton vs. Curie

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But why would 25 do that? You predicted 25 would lose;) . Is your masterplan to join 25s alliance and make them lose????:ahh:

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Anyone else just get an odd vision of Hawaiian and Tye-die shirts celebrating together on Einstein? :ahh:

sounds like somebody is afraid of this combo too.... ;)

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A: 217, 233, 296, 330, 1902
C: 70, 175, 180, 395, 1114
G: 45, 177, 494, 1038, 1680
N: 25, 111, 254, 968, 1503

(It's so hard for me to leave 71 and 103 out, but I just can't fit 'em in there.)

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I'm pretty sure I couldn't put it any better than this guys.

^Interesting thoughts, I'd love that alliance on Einstein.^

Well, I can't wait to see how things work out for us and everyone else.

Good luck everyone,
JT
229

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O god 71 and 111, 71 and 254, 111 and 254, 25 and 254, and so many more combos. O man, thats only two of three teams in an alliance and I feel overwhelmed. We better bring some tylenol and advil to the Newton people for the people in charge of scoring, and some IcyHot for those people with the counter, those thumbs are gonna be mighty sore.

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Wow, im shocked, Has anyone seen or heard of us besides team 25? ...hmmm... I geuss we'll jsut fly under the radar then :D

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I listed you guys

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ssshhhh- they wont know what hit em

WC :cool:

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These are based on statistics compiled from every match result from every event. I suppose you could it an offensive Relative Power Index.

Galileo - 1126, 1625, 86, 384, 1
Archimedes - 233, 296, 1610, 375, 217
Curie - 1114, 469, 358, 175, 435
Newton - 25, 987, 1503, 229, 111

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I did something similar.. I'll share my top 5, from the statistic-based list:

G: 1126, 1625, 86, 341, 384
A: 233, 296, 217, 375, 1610
C: 1114, 469, 358, 451, 1024
N: 25, 987, 1503, 111, 968

Those are pretty similar lists, for two (possibly) unlike systems!

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i think 233 and 217 combo scares me the most. i hope that pair gets broken up during picking.

shaun

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Don't forget about 296. I think their shooting capabilities are a little more robust than 217, but 217 has the ability to hold more balls. Either way, an combination of any of those 3 would be scary.

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I'll finally share my thoughts, however there is no way I will post anything about the teams on Newton.

Galileo: 494, 384, 177, 1126, 1276.
Watchout for 365, 341, and 118 though.

Curie: 469, 121, 1114, 358, 1024.
Watchout for 70, 175, and 293 though.

Archimedes: 233, 343, 217, 888, and 375.
Watchout for 330, 486, 296, and 33 though.

There will be a dogfight for the top of Galileo. I expect 118 to seed first, and select 494. However, be afraid of a 1126 and 177/384/365/1276 combo. Finals of Gali will be very intense.
Alliance of he-double hockey sticks: 494, 1126, X

I feel Curie elims will be taken 6-0 by one alliance. I'm gonna put my money on whatever alliance 469 is in. Expect finals to have three of the teams mentioned in it, with one losing.
Alliance of he-double hockey sticks: 469, 121, X

Archimedes. Not sure what to say here. Everyones dream alliance of 217 and 233...not happening. Expect an underdog like 486 to sneak up and take the 1 seed and select 233. If that does happen, 233 will most likely be knocked out in the Semis to an alliance of two powerhouses. If 888 gets paired with 233, and goes unnoticed during matches though, it is over, and they will take Archi, with great ease.
Alliance of he-double hockey sticks: 233, 888, X

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Yeah, I agree. My system only used data from qualification rounds, and only looks at your score vs. the average score across the event for you alliance partners. This helps show who was scoring big in a match even when they weren't paired with the best teams out there. This is probably why 229 was able to sneak past 254 and 968. GTR and FLR had a huge variety in abilities of teams while the Cali regionals seemed to be a little tighter.

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I find your lack of faith in 1114 disturbing.

..Very disturbing.

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I love 1114, however with the huge target they now have on their back...like many other teams, it will be much harder for them to preform. I never said that 469 would not be with 1114 though. Tom, you should know i keep my ideas vague. And i didnt say dont expect them in the finals...

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The problem with predicting is that no one has seen all the robots in action and robots improve as time progresses. Nevertheless, here are my predictions (mostly based on my observations at the Florida and Palmetto Regionals followed by what videos I've seen):

Archimedes - The 233 alliance wins. They are likely to be the first seed but if they are not, the first seed will pick them. I exect 1902 to be the highest ranked dumper bot.

Curie - Don't expect 1114 to be the top seed I know they will do very well but because there are several other very good offensive robots in Curie and everyone will know to play desperate defense against them, I think they will probably not be able to attain the record required to reach first seed. Also, 1114 will not pick 1680 if they are leading an alliance. I do not know who will win Curie (too close to call) but I will go out on a limb and say if an alliance led by top notch team (in my opionion: 1114, 469, 175, 70, or any team that ranks as high or higher) manages to grab 710 as a second pick, that alliance will win Curie. I have a lot of respect for 710 this year as a defensive bot and think that they can shut down a number of good shooters.

Galileo - I think the 365 alliance wins Galileo. This prediction is based entirely on one picture I saw of their robot - it looks a winner. The only really good robot in Galileo I am familiar with is 86. Even though they are an amazing shooter I predict they will be knocked out in either the quarter or semi-finals because they are too easily pushed around (or tipped) by opposing robots.

Newton - Just as I predicted 1114 would not be the first seed in Curie, I don't think 25 will be the first seed for similiar reasons. Newton has even more great offensive robots than Curie and I think other teams will take advantage of the fact that 25 is a low shooter. Just as I said 1114 would not pick 1680, 254 will not pick 968. Team 11 will be the big suprise at Newton. At the Palmetto Regional they started sinking 10 balls in autonomous during eliminations. Expect them to be in the top eight. My prediction for 71 is similiar my prediction for 86 in Galileo. Even though they are a great shooter, they are too easily pushed around. Plus Newton is so tough I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't make the top eight after qualifying rounds. 322 will the top ranked dumper in this division. I don't know who will win Newton I think the winning alliance will have a robot with a high-shooter(exception: 25), camera-aimed turret allied with a top of the ramp shooter. That is 25, 11, or 987 (edit: or 111 how could I forget) with 254 or 968.

I don't know which division plays which in eliminations so I'll give who I think will win in each possible matchup. I think Galileo will be beaten by any of the other three divisions. Newton or Curie can beat Archimedes. I do not know ho would win in a Curie-Newton matchup. Newton has more top notch robots (but only two will be in an alliance) but Curie has much better second round robots in my opinion. However, If there is any obvious "under-dog upset" in Curie, that alliance will lose to Newton.

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I agree with that^, Alot of the known teams that have done very well, 25 obviously, wildstang, Mort(team 11, they have a great history and strong bot, I have seen them do the above mentioned), and 254, 968. Since most people know those bots and have seen them, the other teams are going to lockdown hard on them. W/o a doubt. Now, saying that, that makes Autonomous even more important in my book. But even good strategy can beat skill, we've all seen it. Alot of the "better" teams have great scouting, ect. So we know tere are powerhouse robots, but it will come down to there partners working together as team, Instead of us all saying, "Wow! there really good, they can definitly win", sure they can win, but the game isnt 3vs1, its 3v3. What groups of robots compliment there weaknesses and strengths as a team? when I was at the Vegas regional, after one of our matches, a team came up to us and said, "Wow we studied your robot for an hour!, and you still beat us!" and i'm thinking whats wrong with that? Mayby if you studied the alliance for an hour it would of probably been a differnt story i think. My predictions for the top teams and other mumbo jumbo, I dont want to say anything about Newton other than what I've said. But think about it!

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"233 will win Archimedes" this and "233/217 wins Archimedes" that, bleh
Even though I said it too originally, I did change it. 233 and 343 have VERY similar, and brutally effective machines. Both had 1 regional championship, and lost in the semi-finals at their other.
343 pictures:
http://www.invisiblerobot.com/roboti.../p1170712.html
http://www.invisiblerobot.com/roboti.../p1170891.html

233 pictures:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=45140

Both are hard to displace once in scoring position (a few feet in front of the ramp). 233 can hold more balls, but 343's ground loading is a tad quicker. Both can get on the ramp, both have working cameras, both have turrents, both have outstanding auto modes, etc.

217 and one of these pair would do outstandingly, but only if one of the 3 makes it into the top 3 or 4 seeds, otherwise it won't happen. "Fluking" into top seeds happens almost entirely by having an auto code that can consistantly perform (thus why the "10 point corner dump" had pushed so many herders into the upper ranking at regionals). Luckily for these teams, they all have amazing autonomous modes, so one of them being in the top few seeds isn't entirely out of the question.
Lacking that, if 1610 unites with 343 to reform 2/3 of the VCU champion alliance (or 233) it could be very very scary (1610 is one of the best parimeter shoters this year, imho). 330, 20, and 33 will all be very serious forces to be reckoned with on Archimedes as well.

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It's obvious what are the "best" robots on the field but there are many variables that could derail their path to Einstien. Mainly if they are saddled with lesser partners that they are forced to carry and are against stronger allaince and they end up in the middle of the pack. Plus some team no one is talking about will be top seed in one of the divisions an dwill blow up everybodys plans for thier Einstien appointment by picking that team that everybody expects to dominate.
As Chris Berman says : That's why they play the game!

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This can't be very accurate, people probably don't know 80% of the teams in their division :P

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Some people undertake massive scouting efforts pre-championship to find out as much about every team in their division as possible. If you look at the various division discussions, there are people trying to catalog pictures of every team in their division. If you look at the scouting forum you will find multiple spreadsheets and applications with statistical information, etc.
Will these be accurate? Not likely. We have yet to find out the individual schedules of the teams involved, who has what break, who adds something new, gets a new code working, gets favorable or unfavorable calls by the refs etc.

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Every team gets bad alliance partners.
Every team has a bit more practice.
Every team has SOME technical difficulty.
Every team gets hit by a bad call.
This happens at every regional, every championship event, and every offseason.

We use statistics to try and factor these things out. I dont want to look at 85 paragraphs for each team in the division when I'm down in the pits trying to run strategies. I want to look at a concise page with the vital information I need to assemble a winning strategy. This is what seperates good teams from great teams. For example, look at the triplets. All of the teams have the exact same robot, but 1114 has gone above and beyond in their scouting, strategizing, and utlization of driver practice time. All of these efforts are more than apparent on the field.

So, I must agree to disagree on your point. With the short nature of these events, I am willing to take any steps I can to alleviate the stress and pressure of preparing for matches. The easiest and most effective way to do this for the Championship event is pre-competition scouting, with statistics.

Nothing beats it. Hands down. Period. The End. Nothing's better.

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I shall respond to this two fold.
First, a post earlier in this thread.
Yes, I realise that EVERY team gets hurt and helped at some point during the Championship event, but it isn't entirely equal. Last year 233 was near the top of virtually everyone's pre-Championship lists, topped out multiple power ranking, statistical charts, etc. Where did they finish? Semi-finals on Archimedes, and they were ranked somewhere in the 40s or 50s after qualification. These are a HUGE benefit no doubt, but it is highly unlikely that any of our predictions and scouting rankings will be very accurate at all when all is said and done.

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Of course our predictions aren't guaranteed. As I mentioned in my post, some teams slip under the radar and others dramatically improve at a competition. However, we can still make educated guesses about competition results. Though it is possible that a robot that is a box-on-wheels can become first seed in a division and go all the way to win on Einstein, it is not probable.

As for 233 in Archimedes, they are in my view, easily the best robot in the division. If you don't believe me, watch the matches from their last regional (Boston) and compare it to the other robots in the division. Yes 343 is good(I saw them at the Palmetto Regional), but they have not performed at the same level as 233 has.

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I fully agree with that statement. What I did not agree with was Also, I'd have to agree that 233 is slightly better than 343, but it is by a very slim margin. Either way, I'll shut up for now and let the results speak for themselves.

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im such a rookie i cant even tell u which teams are good or not

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Two quick points. I have said it before and it bears repeating, this year's game puts some of the best robot's in the top seed. If you look, The number one seed at every regional has been a good bot and has had a decent auto mode (254 excluded). Yes a fluke team will end up high, but I would be suprised if they get the top seed. Secondly, teams with the target on their back are already strong machines. They have been, multiple regional winners and they had the targets then. I think that those teams will be able to pull it off and will win. If 1114 gets a double team, their partners should be able to score better without opposition.

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i am VERY surprised noone has said team 66 :confused: even tho we have not won a regional or n e thing we still are a good but those who have seen the GLR and the WMR have seen it and all but hmm i guess i am just surprised

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Consider it a good thing that you are under the radar then. A place I would rather be.

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... :cool: ...

Can't wait for Atlanta...
Can't wait to see how everyone does

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Sorry, 67 will never be under the radar :p ;)

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I've been reading these posts, mostly paying attention to Achie (because thats where 1279 is), and i couldnt help but notice the number of times 217 was mentioned. All I have are statistics and 217 put up good numbers, (ranked 14 and 15, 11-8 total record without elims, about 30 points/rd. avg for their alliances) but are they really a huge powerhouse like every one is saying? Now I know stats dont mean much. Last year my own team, 1279, didnt have a great record or any of that in atlanta, but we did beat the championship finalist alliance leader from Galileo (team 56) in our regional, so i know all about how misleading some stats are. I have not seen their bot yet and i would love to, pics or videos anyone? We need to do some scouting on other archie teams cuz so far we are under the radar and are hoping to surprise some people.

Give me some details about 217 if youve got them. I have seen the pink team in action and they are incredible, I expect an archie victory from them... possibly with our friends team 375, seems that they have been under the radar also and i think they will come out big in atlanta. (same said about our other friends team 103).

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Yes. They're probably better than everyone is saying. Make no mistake about it, 217 is the real deal.

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I'd also reccomend viewing the video that ader posted about the GTr Semi-Finals. that will show you a lot of stuff.

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This team makes an entire alliance by themselves think about playing defense.

Make no mistake 217 is a real powerhouse. They have the auto-mode, they have the capacity, they have the shooter, they have the drive team, they have the stratigist. This team is just solid with everything they are doing this year.

Look at the video of the GTR semi-finals and you will see them.

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I don't know Tim...Copioli's frosted tips were a bit lacking this year. :p

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hehe.

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Their not called frosted tips you dork. They're called highlights and I just got them done on Thursday. I was feeling old.

217 is not that good. We got really lucky with our alliance pairings. 469 carried us through Detroit and the combo of 229 and 4 pulled us through to the semis in GTR. The video that Adrienne put together is altered to take the heat off 229 and place the bullseye on 217's back. You will all be disappointed if you expect a lot out of 217. Teams like 233, 33, 343, and others are much better than us. Don't bother scouting 217 as there is nothing to see here ....


-Paul

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Come one, come all! See the world's largest bullseye! As painted by the noted artist P.Copioli, this target stands over 300 feet tall and is located on the back of the Thunder Chicken's robot at the FIRST National Museum in Atlanta Georgia.

:cool:

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Thanks for the compliments.........we are definitely trying to be the "Giant" killers this year (aka-shooters) :yikes: But its a tuff task for sure:cool:

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The numbers beg to differ...

www.team195.com/scouting/bestdumpers.htm

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here is their SF 1.1 match in GTR where they beat 1114 and 1503 in the first game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmYnMLswLW0

It was amazing even with heavy defence on them they were able to score 10+ balls, and win autonomous!

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217 really is THAT good, dare I say it?, the best in Archimedes (sorry Paul :rolleyes: ). 233 and 343 are not far behind though, and if 217 can pair with one of them, they would not only have a very realistic chance of repeating on Archimedes, but actually emerging champions on Einstein.

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False face, everybody.

I don't recall a single shot missed by you guys in that GTR Semi-Finals video.