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Kristian Calhoun 22-05-2006 17:38

10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I just read this article, and found it to be somewhat ridiculous... 10 signs that your son is a computer hacker

According to this list, I'm a computer hacker because I use Optimum Online instead of AOL, asked my parents to purchase me an AMD processor, which they did, and spend way more than 30 minutes a day online. :rolleyes:

What are your views on this article? And accordingly, in which ways are you considered to be a "hacker"?

Alexa Stott 22-05-2006 17:41

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Oh noes!!11!!!

I *must* be a drrrty haxor. I have mp3's on my computer! And my ISP is Optimum Online. I also have Flash on my computer. :ahh: *hangs head in shame*

Uh, yeah...That's such nonsense. :rolleyes:

Michelle Celio 22-05-2006 17:45

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That's just ...odd. It kind of reminds me of this one list, "Your child might be a goth if.." or something. I dunno.

Accoring to that, I've been a "hacker" since I was..10? (Minus the fact that I'm not a male :) )

And..
Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

I think they mean Linux?

anna~marie 22-05-2006 17:45

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that is the most ridiculous and yet hilarious thing ever
I love them talking about stuff they have no idea about

ChuckDickerson 22-05-2006 17:46

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Lunix???????????

Bill_Hancoc 22-05-2006 17:47

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now that i got my laugh in for the day...if we could only give useful tips to help stop the hackers that go around deleting other students school projects and the like ( this happened to a person i know a few days ago)

Kristian Calhoun 22-05-2006 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepWater
Lunix???????????

my thoughts at first too, but heres the results from a wikipedia search...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix, but i do believe that they mean Linux.

Rick TYler 22-05-2006 17:49

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I'd bet 25 cents (American) that it is a parody. Pretty funny one, too.

Cynette 22-05-2006 17:55

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Thanks for sharing that! My son must be a hacker! And I have hacker tendencies! :eek:

The usage of "Lunix" was just too much!!!

Cynette

Alexa Stott 22-05-2006 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruity Pebbles
Accoring to that, I've been a "hacker" since I was..10? (Minus the fact that I'm not a male :) )

Heh. I guess the two of us are automatically exempt from being hackers, being females and all... :p

Conor Ryan 22-05-2006 18:02

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I love this at the bottom of the page:
The Adequacy.org name, logo, symbol, and taglines "News for Grown-Ups", "Most Controversial Site on the Internet", "Linux Zealot", and "He just loves Open Source Software"

ROFL, wanna know something funny, if this is true I've been a hacker since about age 8, my little brother is 7 and he loves to use Ubuntu, and complains about the slow computer. I love the internet sometimes.........

Jaine Perotti 22-05-2006 18:40

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After browsing around and reading other articles, I find the whole entire website ridiculous. At first I thought it was all a joke, but apparently the people who write articles on there are serious. I find it frightening, actually.

The article itself made me laugh though. Especially the mispelling of Linux as "Lunix." What isn't funny is the fact that whoever wrote it was dead serious.

[EDIT] I'm not really sure if the site is real or a joke, as I read through more of it. oww... my brain hurts... surely such ludicrous people do not really populate this planet...

Alexa Stott 22-05-2006 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BurningQuestion
What isn't funny is the fact that whoever wrote it was dead serious.

I feel so bad for whoever's parents took this article seriously.

And if you notice, the description of the physical appearance of a "hacker" is actually that of a candy raver. I think this guy should be concerned about some *other* issues his son may have. :rolleyes:

sanddrag 22-05-2006 19:08

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Another article on that site said the government should outlaw linux computers and that Microsoft should turn off the internet from 10PM to 7AM every day. :D

And you've gotta love those wonderful Comet Cursor and Bonzi Buddy hacking programs. :D ROFL (they are actually spyware, make sure you don't have them).

artdutra04 22-05-2006 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
Another article on that site said the government should outlaw linux computers and that Microsoft should turn off the internet from 10PM to 7AM every day. :D

Oh no! How would I be able to surf Chief Delphi during the build season if Microsoft turned off the Internet every day at night? Ohh the humanity! But maybe since I use illegal "open source" software like Mozilla Firefox and listen to these evil "mp3" music programs I won't have to worry about surfing Chief Delphi when I am in grounded for using the Internet for more than thirty minutes a day. :eek:









* Note: This post has been found by the State of California to be a complete joke. Use as directed. :p

Alexa Stott 22-05-2006 19:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04
Oh no! How would I be able to surf Chief Delphi during the build season if Microsoft turned off the Internet every day at night? Ohh the humanity! But maybe since I use illegal "open source" software like Mozilla Firefox and listen to these evil "mp3" music programs I won't have to worry about surfing Chief Delphi when I am in grounded for using the Internet for more than thirty minutes a day. :eek:

N-n-not Mozilla! I wonder if that was perhaps created by Castro. :ahh:

I hope the kopzorz don't find CD. We'll all be taken away in handcuffs!

*sigh* The whole website is pretty amusing, actually.
Quote:

* Note: This post has been found by the State of California to be a complete joke. Use as directed. :p
Ah, but we all know that The Internet Is Serious Business.

santosh 22-05-2006 20:01

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I am honestly not sure whether to believe this or not.
If this is a joke, it is probably one of the funniest nerd jokes I have seen in a good while. If it is serious, it mkaes me want to cry myslf to sleep at night. every night. until I am forty. nine

Katie Reynolds 22-05-2006 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fruity Pebbles
That's just ...odd. It kind of reminds me of this one list, "Your child might be a goth if.."

I thought the same thing! I remember a "symptom" of being "goth" was ... eating Count Chocula cereal! ... and it was a "serious" article. :confused:

I like this: "Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour?"

... that's part of becoming a teenager! ;)

kio_chan176 22-05-2006 21:01

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i only qualify for spending hours on the computer (especially on the internet) and installing odd music programs to try them out. ^^;; girls can be hackers too! >_> <_<

Astronouth7303 22-05-2006 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BurningQuestion
After browsing around and reading other articles, I find the whole entire website ridiculous. At first I thought it was all a joke, but apparently the people who write articles on there are serious. I find it frightening, actually.

The article itself made me laugh though. Especially the mispelling of Linux as "Lunix." What isn't funny is the fact that whoever wrote it was dead serious.

[EDIT] I'm not really sure if the site is real or a joke, as I read through more of it. oww... my brain hurts... surely such ludicrous people do not really populate this planet...

Look at http://shelleytherepublican.com/ some time. That one made me think for a while. (About whether he was serious.)

Donut 22-05-2006 21:30

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So this article is basically saying my Dad and I are a father-son hacker combo? Interesting, I'll have to inform him of it. My whole family may classify as a group of hackers.

This seriously has to be the most funny/outrageous thing I've seen in a while. I'm debating whether to laugh hysterically or be seriously concerned that someone may believe this.

Morgan Gillespie 22-05-2006 21:37

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I.. don't know what to say... other than dressing like that, "DOSing" and grades dropping I fit all the criteria.
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Originally Posted by article
The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day.

WHAT!? The only time I have ever, ever used my computer for less than 45 mins a day is when I am not home.

Also perhaps your *son* is asking to change ISPs because AOL is terrible!
AOL's parental controls block some of its own sites! YES! It is slow, gives too many unusable tools, and that accelerator is a piece of crap and destroys images.

As for Quake, no, but I used to play Quake III Areana online, until AOL 9.0 came to exist. Unless that was the Quake he was refering to, but what can I say Quake is nice and easy to mod.

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Originally Posted by article
Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language.

No, those who go against you with obviously wrong information will be met with flaming. Sorry but when I hear "My computer tv will not go into the plug hole," I lose it. Now when met with somone who simple does not know and is trying to descibe something this is ok, yet when I correct this person time and time again and they still use the wrong terms when asking for my help I just lose it.

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Originally Posted by article
If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits,

He is reading be happy!

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Originally Posted by article
They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips.

WHAT!? What in the world does getting a graphics card upgrade or hard drive upgrades have to do with hacking. AMD, inferior knock off?

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Originally Posted by article
performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group

You have a hacker son on a sports team?! Shesh I would be happy with that, forget how well he is doing.

Not only that did you see the poll?
Quote:

Originally Posted by poll
Poll
I'm scared of hackers because...
They hack into NASA 5%
They steal things 4%
They are violent sociopaths 4%
They use amphetamines and speed 7%
They help Osama Bin Laden 14%
They're un-American 5%
They smell bad 58%

We do not use drugs, help Osama Bin Laden, are violent, we aren't un-American (applies only to US citizens), and in most cases we do not smell bad! We smell like nachos, sweat, burnt rubber, and cotton.
Plus we do not hack into NASA, just because we are at their site a lot does not mean we hack into it.

Sorry if I sound so revved up, as I was reading this I kept losing connection to my neighbors network. Its the closest thing to high speed I got! I just wish it was a little closer...

Bill_Hancoc 22-05-2006 21:53

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Id like to know how you break into somebodies stereo. And as long as we are on spelling mistakes its not Linyos Torovoltos its Linus Torvalds

114Klutz 22-05-2006 22:29

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That is an awesome piece of humor.

This has been circulating around for a while now - and every time it shows up I'm very suprised that some people manage to believe it as a true article.

It's satire - and an excellent piece of satire at that.

Cynette 22-05-2006 22:37

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Ok. Some of you people are scaring me. I can't believe you are correcting spelling errors and rebutting some of the points. The article is satire 100%, just like the DaVinci Code is fiction! (oh drat... 114Klutz just posted on the satire part)

I'm guessing the spelling errors are intentional to avoid any copyright or libel concerns.

Who wants to do the CD version of the Article- "10 signs your teenager is addicted to Chief Delphi?" Hurry the internet shuts down for the night in 1 hour and 24 minutes!

Cynette

114Klutz 22-05-2006 22:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mocat1530
Ok. Some of you people are scaring me. I can't believe you are correcting spelling errors and rebutting some of the points. The article is satire 100%, just like the DaVinci Code is fiction! (oh drat... 114Klutz just posted on the satire part)

I'm guessing the spelling errors are intentional to avoid any copyright or libel concerns.

Who wants to do the CD version of the Article- "10 signs your teenager is addicted to Chief Delphi?" Hurry the internet shuts down for the night in 1 hour and 24 minutes!

Cynette

Already working on the FIRST one :)

EddieMcD 22-05-2006 23:44

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Oh please, everybody knows hacking into NASA is no big accomplishment. :p

But yeah, that article is a great piece of satire. Assuming it was intended that way, the author has my props. But they forgot the most important sign of all:

Your son's English lessons consist solely of the translated Zerowing.

artdutra04 23-05-2006 00:14

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Here is what a lot of people who read that article do not understand. Yes, there are people that dumb in the world. And yes, some have access to the Internet. And yes, some do create stupid websites and try to preach their values to the world. But this website, and quite a few others, are purposely satirical with as much incorrect information as possible.

They contain downright lies and false facts, that are painfully obvious to any intelligent person. Think of this as either the "moral" behind a fable or subliminal messages on steroids - the real message behind these articles is to question the world around you, think critically, and make informed and intelligent choices. And because of this, I think the real author of this article was way smarter most people think, in order to create such a masterpiece of reverse psychology. And I applaud him (or her) for their efforts.

Rick TYler 23-05-2006 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by santosh
If it is serious, it mkaes me want to cry myslf to sleep at night. every night. until I am forty. nine

You got a problem with that?

Rick "Born in '56" TYler

Greg Needel 23-05-2006 07:56

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OK so i read the article and agree with the ridiculousness of it, although there is one fact that i think you all should see.

Quote:

Author:T Reginald Gibbons
Topic:Internet Idiocy
Posted:Dec 02, 2001
yes thats right, it was posted in 2001. Think back to that time, and alot of the things in the article would seem more legit. Alot of the things in the article like Linux, leaving AOL, were common place things. for example broadband connections were first getting popular, and at that time AOL still had a limited "hours per month." While Linux was gaining popularity there was nowhere near the level of national acceptance that there is now.

I still think there is a good chance that this is a satire but if you look at it from a national historical aspect some things make more sense then today.

Tim Baird 23-05-2006 08:24

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Thank you, Greg!

I was starting to think that I was the only one who noticed that it was labeled as "internet idiocy".

Matt Krass 23-05-2006 14:01

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2001? I remember when this first went up.

Wow. I feel old. (How much flack am I going to get for saying that Mr. Tyler? ;))

Anyways, I think it actually was serious at the time, but it's since been realized to be little more use than humor as it's fairly...well...wrong :)

KarenH 23-05-2006 16:35

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Well, I be a hacker according to this article (already spent many hours online this morning -- er, afternoon). 'Cept I'm a daughter, so I can't be.

Clues, folks, check out the clues....

I dunno wut AMD is, I don't remember names of any real hackers, but I wuz goin nuts readin an article littered with links like land mines.

So I went to work clicking those links. Most of the ones that are still good go to "relevant" book titles on Amazon (chuckle). One went straight to a porno picture (yuck!).

Even if a parent didn't know much of the "geek-speak" in the article, or what the current fashions are, the links alone reveal the satiric intent of the writer. No father with real fears about this subject would take the time to pepper his article with 2 or 3 links per sentence, let alone porn.

No way is this guy serious!

But the poll, of course, is right on -- they smell terrible! ;)

Kristian Calhoun 23-05-2006 16:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenH
I dunno wut AMD is, I don't remember names of any real hackers, but I wuz goin nuts readin an article littered with links like land mines.

So I went to work clicking those links. Most of the ones that are still good go to "relevant" book titles on Amazon (chuckle). One went straight to a porno picture (yuck!).

Even if a parent didn't know much of the "geek-speak" in the article, or what the current fashions are, the links alone reveal the satiric intent of the writer. No father with real fears about this subject would take the time to pepper his article with 2 or 3 links per sentence, let alone porn.

No way is this guy serious!

But the poll, of course, is right on -- they smell terrible! ;)

I think it's quite obvious by now that the entire article was a satire. ;) But to answer your question, AMD is a company that makes computer processors, (like intel). And for some future advice, always try to hover a link before you click on it to see where it might lead you to. :cool:

And if a poll with 11015 votes says that hackers smell bad, then it must be pretty darn accurate. :p

jkoci 23-05-2006 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Baird
I was starting to think that I was the only one who noticed that it was labeled as "internet idiocy".

according to the comments on the site, not many people caught it. at first i thought it was serious, then i saw the Internet idiocy.

Morgan Gillespie 23-05-2006 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calhounian
And for some future advice, always try to hover a link before you click on it to see where it might lead you to. :cool:

Chris knows this now. :D

lukevanoort 23-05-2006 18:33

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Weirdly enough, the satirist (is that a word?) is semi-right about AMD, although they were never third world, for a while they did just about copy intel processors (interfaces at least), stopped doing that, then pretty much dominated them with the K6.

Matt Royek 23-05-2006 19:07

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Argh, I read this article (with cody c, Kyle A and Brian) and laughed and yelled at it's utter lack of comprehension, compilation and common sense.

My spot list:
I use more than 30 min online almost daily.

I use Linux.

Lunix=Linux. Linux was made by Linus Torvalds, a native of Helsinki, Finland and Linux was made in 1991, which was modeled after Minix, which was modeled after Unix, which was made by AT&T.

AMD is an American company. And Intel is just as Un-american as them, because they both have their processors made in Indonesia.

I ask for new parts all the time, and parts from the manufacturer are just if not more so suspect than parts you can buy off of TigerDirect or Newegg. Which, might I add, are both are certified secure by the Better Business Bureau.

Quake? Quake is a Video.Game. Not a portal for your little Jimmy to be corrupted by the hacker elite. And quake happens to have been made in the late 90's, and is by today's terms obsolete. Fun, nonetheless :D .

Bright colored clothes and baggy pants. Oh snap, I'm a hacker! I wear baggy cargo pants and my shirts all have illusions to popular internet culture! Oh snap, call the FBI!!! Not. It's how people dress that makes them different, not related to a certain archetype. Such identifying people by how they dress and in turn denying them things is called prejudice.

Gets beligerrant and argumentative. Isn't that a part of the wonderful process called growing up? That the hormones in the body may make people a little more surly? Oh nope, that's called hacker syndrome.

AOL? AOL? Please, AOL has to be, hands down, the worst ISP in the business, and not cause of privacy filter. Most, if not all services have the same capabilities, and I use Verizon online DSL, which is much better (albeit not perfect).

That's about all I saw, and that's my basic rant.

Timothy D. Ginn 23-05-2006 19:26

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For those who haven't caught on yet (some people still seem to be posting rants about it) the article is a satire. My personal favourite example of satire is A Modest Proposal (via Project Gutenberg) by Johnathan Swift.

The mission statement for Adequacy.org is pretty cool (read the whole thing).

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.adequacy.org/special/mission.html
There are a number of people who have opinions that don't quite fit the norm. Because of this, they aren't welcome in many places. This is where they exercise their right to speak, where the dreams of tomorrow take flight today.

This site is aimed at middle class white male professionals - the sort of people who have been sadly sidelined by today's victim culture, and the domination of homosexuals, geeks, amputees, racial minorities and Canadians, who have all risen up with their discrimination laws and 'equality' to sadly control the media agenda.

These people are not welcome here. This is where we make a stand. This is where we fight back.

This site is also squarely aimed at the marginalised of society -- homosexuals, geeks, amputees, racial minorities and Canadians, who remain in a state of oppression, kept down by the dominant white male patriarchy and by insufficiently rigorous 'discrimination' laws and the corporate media.

These people are welcome here. This is where we make a stand. This is where we fight back.


Gabe 23-05-2006 20:32

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There is a serious danger that has not been mentioned, and that is SOMEONE WILL TAKE THIS ARTICLE SERIOUSLY.
If you read this entire thread you realize that it took a lot of thinking before someone pointed out that this was a JOKE. If took this many intelligent individuals at ChiefDelphi, then what will happen if a parent goes around the Internet and comes across this article? Imagine what the thoughts going through his or her mind:

"Oh, no! What have I done to Jimmy's young mind?! I must burn his laptop or else its the electric chair!!! What kind of parent am I, to do this to my own son?!!"

Ma'am, you're just insane.

The problem with satire is that sometimes its humor is a little too subtle.

Beth Sweet 23-05-2006 21:40

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Ok, according to this, I am a hacker (BTW, I am not a "son")

Now will someone please come fix my computer??? ;)

[Edit: I really am serious about the fix my computer, the cd drive decided to disapear and uninstall itself]

Matt Royek 23-05-2006 23:06

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Really......hmm.....


Well, I'm mostly speechless. I did not really notice this was satire until it was pointed out, and I agree, in this particular case, the line was microbe thin. Now that I know that it's satire, I can probably attribute those mistakes to an attempt at a flame war.

One thing I know: I will never visit Adequacy.org site for anything again. I'll stick to my /. and Digg.

KarenH 23-05-2006 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe
There is a serious danger that has not been mentioned, and that is SOMEONE WILL TAKE THIS ARTICLE SERIOUSLY.
If you read this entire thread you realize that it took a lot of thinking before someone pointed out that this was a JOKE. If took this many intelligent individuals at ChiefDelphi...

The problem with satire is that sometimes its humor is a little too subtle.

I'll probably get some people mad for posting this, so I'll try to say it nicely. Intelligence isn't everything.

Lately I've been having conversations with different people who are striving to see students trained in critical thinking (one chat in particular was about why a would-be engineer should be able to critique literature).

A lot of media attention has been given to "functional literacy." But there are different kinds of literacy. Many kids enjoy reading story books and novels, and can quickly read piles of books straight through (think Hardy Boys). Good for them!

But to be ready for high school and beyond, these same kids have to learn that a different approach is required for reading textbooks. This may seem silly to naturally talented scholars, but I once encountered a case where a student tried to read her textbook like a novel. She missed important information because she ignored the bold type--the chapter subheadings--and the information was not presented in the body of the text. As a result, she couldn't understand her lessons.

Moving ahead to the "critical thinking" level--this is where a lot of people think their English classes are a waste of time. But, as was alleged in one of the above-mentioned conversations, millions of students are spending a lot of time on the Internet. They instantly download pages, then zip right through them like the pages are pulp fiction. They don't read critically. They don't read between the lines. They don't ask hard questions, such as: "What is this author REALLY trying to say?" "What are the author's credentials?" "Is it reasonable to regard this as a trustworthy site?" "Are there serious logical or factual errors?"

Those who fail to pay attention as they read will be sitting ducks for anyone who wants to take advantage of them. Inattentive readers can be easily misled or manipulated by advertisers, news media, forwarded e-mails-- even by people who may get involved with FIRST to achieve their own private agendas rather than to benefit the community. Sloppy readers can easily misunderstand someone, and make fools of themselves with their off-target responses.

Satirists generally expect their audience to be intelligent--AND they expect them to be paying attention. Most people who enjoy satire would feel insulted if the author made the humor blatantly obvious to even the dullest near-literate stumbling around the Internet. Part of the fun of satire is that it starts out appearing serious, but the deeper in you get, the more you get a strange feeling about what's being said...then you begin to chuckle, and maybe end up roaring with laughter. (Unless you disagree--then you might be hopping mad.)

I think the piece of satire that is the subject of this thread is just about right-- neither too subtle nor too obvious. I remember a prank played on CD some years ago where the author DID make it too subtle. A lot of people believed it, and quickly became very upset. A reader had to be fairly Internet-savvy to catch on to the single clue that clearly betrayed the stunt. On the other hand, the "hacker" article is packed with clues everywhere in the page.

GaryVoshol 24-05-2006 08:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe
There is a serious danger that has not been mentioned, and that is SOMEONE WILL TAKE THIS ARTICLE SERIOUSLY.
If you read this entire thread you realize that it took a lot of thinking before someone pointed out that this was a JOKE. If took this many intelligent individuals at ChiefDelphi, then what will happen if a parent goes around the Internet and comes across this article?

Several years back, the BBC did an elaborate April Fool's joke story about the plight of the Italian spaghetti farmers - and people believed it. Years before that, "War of the Worlds" was on the radio - and people believed it.

People will believe lots of things they see and hear. Guess what? That's their problem. They have to develop critical thinking skills. They have to know they can't rely on a single source. They have to know anyone can post anything they want on the Internet, but that doesn't make it true.

Satire can be subtle - indeed, subtlety is what makes satire work. Figuring it out, despite it being tricky, is what makes it funny. And really good satire will have an underlying point to make, usually something totally opposite the apparent obvious message.

Branden Ghena 24-05-2006 16:33

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Tawnos luvs LUNIX!!!! It's 1337!

Cuog 24-05-2006 20:42

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Also a little on AMD it stands for
American Micro Devices

For the article I was starting to get concerned that this guy was serious and that there were amny people out there reading that areticle beleiveing every word.

chrisinmd 24-05-2006 22:14

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I love Lunix! *hacker alert!*
I can't even believe that I would buy computer parts that weren't made in America! That is soooo hacker like!
(I love my AMD 64 3000+, so I must be a super hacker!)

FF_1610_EMT 25-05-2006 10:18

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
i know how to get around the school system's firewall WITHOUT hacking into the school's mainframe and thats why i'm the only person that knows how to get around period (plus i'm not allowed on the computer that has internet at home and i get real bored at school without being able to get onto MySpace. but i'm on MySpace right now.)

GlitterRave113 25-05-2006 13:26

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
you know whats funny about that article, my dad fits all of those, and actually teaches me hacking! ie:how to get around firewalls in schools and other things looking up private IP codes and such...he even owns a whole bookcase of hacker books, installed linux on all of our comps (wayyyy cooler than windows i have to say), buys comp stuff that my mom doesnt understand (however, its my mom)...I love how they talked about the kids social life and how he dresses! I know people that dress like that, but they know squat about computers! :D :D :D

Dylan 17-07-2006 11:13

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Lol, what a bunch of nonsense! :rolleyes:

The article wasn't completely useless though, at least now I know the titles of the next nine books I'm gonna read. ;)

Andy A. 18-07-2006 02:13

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Always check the parent site of any article you read. It can be, illuminating.

Take a look at the FAQ for adequacy.com, although be forewarned that little of the site is 'worksafe'.

It's a joke. If it wasn't obvious in the article then the rest of the site proves it. They come out and say it's all a silly joke site right in the FAQ. Nothing on that site is serious and it was never intended for general consumption. It's not terribly funny either.

The site went dead years ago, and has been in archive since.

I wouldn't give it any more thought.

-Andy A.

Loki1989 22-07-2006 14:23

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I am most definitly a hacker bi need more RAM and a new harddrive i run linux and i am getting a C++ book soon and i know every program on my computer i dont need them to hide.

Elgin Clock 22-07-2006 14:27

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuog
Also a little on AMD it stands for
American Micro Devices

Nope.. It stands for Advanced Micro Devices as shown in the webpage blurb here:

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...,GGLD:en&q=AMD

Cuog 22-07-2006 17:32

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
yeah i realised that i little while after my post but was too lazy to fix it :rolleyes:

Compnerd 02-04-2007 23:53

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I guess that means that i am a hacker... Or just a nerd, who likes having a fast computer... Everyone needs memory

DCA Fan 03-04-2007 03:49

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash".
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Best line of the article.

Zyik 03-04-2007 03:58

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
If Flash is hacker software, we're all screwed. Best line ever.

If I didnt know allready that would have pointed out "Joke" right away.

Travis Hoffman 03-04-2007 07:02

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 503587)
I just read this article, and found it to be somewhat ridiculous... 10 signs that your son is a computer hacker

According to this list, I'm a computer hacker because I use Optimum Online instead of AOL, asked my parents to purchase me an AMD processor, which they did, and spend way more than 30 minutes a day online. :rolleyes:

What are your views on this article? And accordingly, in which ways are you considered to be a "hacker"?

Thanks for the laugh - thankfully it's a joke (Linyos Torovoltos - ha) - I think that self-described bestest parent ever is so far to the right, he fell off the edge of the table.

TetraBot 15-04-2007 19:54

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing?

Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "Flash".

Flash 4 Hackers? That's one I've never heard of :D :D :D
I hope this guy's joking. The Article is really funny though. My family got a few laughs out of it.
If anybody has any outrageous articles like this one, please post it here. I'm interested in seeing what other people have to say on such topics. :cool:

[Edit] I think that guy spelt Linux wrong!!!

Cuog 16-04-2007 18:25

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TetraBot (Post 617270)
] I think that guy spelt Linux wrong!!!

He did

It is satire but what is sad to me is that some uneducated parents may believe it and thats when problems happen.

artdutra04 16-04-2007 20:19

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuog (Post 618031)
It is satire but what is sad to me is that some uneducated parents may believe it and thats when problems happen.

How is this any different than an uneducated person watching the Colbert Report and thinking that's the truth?

We all know that show is just truthiness. :p

Cuog 16-04-2007 20:40

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 618146)
How is this any different than an uneducated person watching the Colbert Report and thinking that's the truth?

We all know that show is just truthiness. :p

Both are just as scary although more people have political opinions. There are also a lot more people that don't know about technology and will read that as the gospel from a well informed parent.

whytheheckme 06-05-2007 23:50

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
A TechTV explanation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xIUfzmZ-7Q

Jacob

[shadow] 07-05-2007 13:39

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
wow i definatly fit a lot of those and i have the t-shirt

Mazin 17-02-2008 20:57

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I recommend Snow Crash and Neuromancer. Classics. Cryptonomicon is pretty good for those with a paranoid bent too.

I was expecting the words "Anonymous," "Hackers on Steroids," and "Internet Hate Machine," and footage of an exploding van until I saw the article date...

mrbob1000 18-02-2008 08:20

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
ok... eric s raymond is just plain cool!

onoes! im a computer hacker (i m more of a hardware hacker) but the team "hacker" is loosely used these days. and besides... i use amd and i love it. it overclocks better than most intels.

omg! and im using linux!

this site isnt even accurate.

"BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone."

the truth is that linux was based off of unix and it is a strong os. linux torvalds is was from helsinki and has a family.

the truth of xenix

"In the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs such as Intel, Tandy, Altos and SCO who then provided a finished version of their own Xenix to the end-users or other customers. SCO introduced its first version of Xenix named SCO Xenix System V for the Intel 8086 and 8088 in 1983. Today SCO Xenix is one of the more commonly used and found versions of Xenix."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices

this whole article was created as a joke or by some totally computer illiterate person who is terrified at our youth becoming ub3r 31337 haxx0rz (i couldnt resist the 1337speek)

http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...2219.3493.html

also from there site... "communism and daycare"

http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...95736.251.html

RMS is a cool man! and yet these people are stabbing at him.

Tiix 18-02-2008 15:11

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 503590)
That's just ...odd. It kind of reminds me of this one list, "Your child might be a goth if.." or something. I dunno.

Accoring to that, I've been a "hacker" since I was..10? (Minus the fact that I'm not a male :) )

Amen to that!!! they all think its the Guys who are doing all the hacking... heh thats why females get away with so much!!! but i asked for half that stuff and im innocent!!

EricH 18-02-2008 15:41

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Hah. The ones that fit me are:

Time on computer. (I'm online, unless I'm in class or sleeping or eating.)
Non-AOL. (Is it a bad sign that I don't know what ISP I'm on?)

The sad part is, I'm at a tech school. That isn't on the list, but should be.

Molten 18-02-2008 17:23

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I think the guy is way off on the stereo-type of hackers. When is the last time anyone has seen someone with a pacifier? Also, most of the people I see at my school with weird hair colors don't know a thing about computers.

Waiakea12 18-02-2008 19:28

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Well, I think that I've got one just as good as the Hacking one. I looked deeper into the site, and guess what... The same author had another article entitled "Death Machines". You gotta see it It's at http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...066.17648.html This is a little more realistic/practical than the Hacker article, but in this one they dis Gran Turismo, Need For Speed, and basically all racing movies!:ahh:
I, Personally am a hardcore Gran Turismo Fan. (#5's coming out this year) see http://us.playstation.com/granturismo/

Well,the hacker article is funny, but is the author REALLY serious? Oh, and by the way most of his hyperlinks are bogus... Much thanks Kristian Calhoun for this starting this thread!:yikes:

Nosh 23-11-2008 00:18

exellent article
 
...they left out "steal this computer book 4.0" it's not exactly a manual but it's certainly a good place to start for a little basic know-how.

i have AMD
i use linux
i have AOL but that's my dad's fault
i spend a lot of time on the computer
however i'm in honors/AP classes and i have As and Bs

But my favorite part of this article by far is that Quake makes you a hacker
fun game? absolutely
Make you a "1337 h4xx0r"? hell no!

bobwrit 02-12-2008 23:32

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
...Too many things wrong...

hihihiflcl81pig 06-12-2008 00:30

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
That article was written by a REALLY miss-informed person. Almost all of what was said in that article applied to me. A have Arch Linux, and Gentoo on my laptop, and you have to use a console/terminal (I use a virtual console most of the time =D) to update your whole system/ install new packages/ anything. One part of the article said you can't uninstall Linux without harming your HDD, well thats a lie, you can actually how windows installed, clear space on your hard drive, make a partition for Linux, and install Linux on that, and then delete your Linux partition (if you don't like it but, you'll most likely delete the windows partition since Linux is really addictive), and expand the windows partition again without any harm at all.

Nosh 06-12-2008 01:33

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
linux won't harm your hard drive. however i know way too many people who are used to windows and when they see me running linux it looks "wrong" to them because its not windows or mac OS X (and most of them think those are the only two operating systems that exist) and they find it unfamiliar so i must have "broken the computer"

so i could easily see an ill informed person saying that linux actually damages your computer... but it makes me laugh:D

Nate Smith 06-12-2008 08:25

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I think that looking at some of the other articles on the site(one of the "favorites" that I found: Reality TV is getting us desensitized to communism), makes it clear that this site is most likely a parody site, or one for conspiracy theorists. There was also one (not really SFW, so I won't post the details), that suggested "shutting off the internet" at night, saying it would be tricky because of time zones, but somebody at Microsoft could figure it out. That same article referred to Lunix(note the misspelling consistent across the site) as the "zone" that held most of the "underbelly" of the internet.

Jmasta 08-12-2008 15:57

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
:( i cant beleive the dumb parent who wrote that article. not only did he accuse his son who is most likely innocent, but he is incorrect in all of that stuff., He probably wanted to change ISP cuz of a crappy connection. He installed some cursor and smiley programs along with flash, he wuz interested on how ppl hack, he plays an online game for fun, HE MISPELLED THE BEST OS IN THE WORLD WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS IS LINUX!! lol :yikes: Hes a nerd. haha, with all of that crap, it mostly fits me besides some details

KarenH 09-12-2008 00:12

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Just a note to those of you who are new to this thread, especially if you haven't read the middle of it (around page 3 & 4)-- I think the readers in the early days of this thread determined that it is, indeed, satire. So please don't take it seriously--it's meant for laughs.

Branden Ghena 09-12-2008 00:55

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Ghena (Post 504187)
Tawnos luvs LUNIX!!!! It's 1337!

This is why I find this thread so hilarious. I don't actually know what I was possibly thinking two years ago, and I honestly believe that I didn't know what linux was at the time. Silly sophomores. :rolleyes:

Note: My username used to be tawnos23 so the Tawnos part sort of makes sense.

Xavier Brandall 15-12-2008 00:10

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
I like how it's always "You're son". Is the heinous stereotype of girls not being able to use technology so strong here that it restricts the idea of hacking only to teenage males? Girls, I hereby encourage you to hack this guy's system and mess with his mind. Feel free to dress monochromatically and suceed in school while you're at it.

Darkcrosbone 31-01-2009 20:42

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
haha 2 yes's and 2 mabys :D

and 6 no's

hehe the test is totally wrong! XD

Noel 31-01-2009 20:58

Re: 10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
 
Huh.

Well then, other than the fact that I'm female. I've been a hacker for ages it seems.

I "struggled" academically in school at times, I spend hours upon hours on the internet, I was fascinated with Linux for quite a bit...I mean, "Lunix". My clothings style leaves my mother confused with all the chains, blackness, buttons, pins, and rips.

I am, "argumentative" at times with my mother. Mmm, I haven't read a hacker manual. But, I do watch Hacker on tv, and read the manga sometimes.

Oh, I also download a ton of programs...meaning I also asked my mom for a comp with more memory.

So, according to this guy. I'm probably a master hacker in his eyes.
But, this is also pretty funny, yet sad at the same time. It shows the stupidity of people, because I don't believe he's serious. Yet, I'm sure some parent out there may actually think like this...in which case, I feel sorry for their kid.

I wonder if the fact I use Google Chrome may factor into this too? lol.


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