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10 Signs that your son is a hacker.
I just read this article, and found it to be somewhat ridiculous... 10 signs that your son is a computer hacker
According to this list, I'm a computer hacker because I use Optimum Online instead of AOL, asked my parents to purchase me an AMD processor, which they did, and spend way more than 30 minutes a day online. :rolleyes: What are your views on this article? And accordingly, in which ways are you considered to be a "hacker"? |
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Oh noes!!11!!!
I *must* be a drrrty haxor. I have mp3's on my computer! And my ISP is Optimum Online. I also have Flash on my computer. :ahh: *hangs head in shame* Uh, yeah...That's such nonsense. :rolleyes: |
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That's just ...odd. It kind of reminds me of this one list, "Your child might be a goth if.." or something. I dunno.
Accoring to that, I've been a "hacker" since I was..10? (Minus the fact that I'm not a male :) ) And.. Quote:
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that is the most ridiculous and yet hilarious thing ever
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Lunix???????????
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now that i got my laugh in for the day...if we could only give useful tips to help stop the hackers that go around deleting other students school projects and the like ( this happened to a person i know a few days ago)
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I'd bet 25 cents (American) that it is a parody. Pretty funny one, too.
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Thanks for sharing that! My son must be a hacker! And I have hacker tendencies! :eek:
The usage of "Lunix" was just too much!!! Cynette |
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I love this at the bottom of the page:
The Adequacy.org name, logo, symbol, and taglines "News for Grown-Ups", "Most Controversial Site on the Internet", "Linux Zealot", and "He just loves Open Source Software" ROFL, wanna know something funny, if this is true I've been a hacker since about age 8, my little brother is 7 and he loves to use Ubuntu, and complains about the slow computer. I love the internet sometimes......... |
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After browsing around and reading other articles, I find the whole entire website ridiculous. At first I thought it was all a joke, but apparently the people who write articles on there are serious. I find it frightening, actually.
The article itself made me laugh though. Especially the mispelling of Linux as "Lunix." What isn't funny is the fact that whoever wrote it was dead serious. [EDIT] I'm not really sure if the site is real or a joke, as I read through more of it. oww... my brain hurts... surely such ludicrous people do not really populate this planet... |
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And if you notice, the description of the physical appearance of a "hacker" is actually that of a candy raver. I think this guy should be concerned about some *other* issues his son may have. :rolleyes: |
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Another article on that site said the government should outlaw linux computers and that Microsoft should turn off the internet from 10PM to 7AM every day. :D
And you've gotta love those wonderful Comet Cursor and Bonzi Buddy hacking programs. :D ROFL (they are actually spyware, make sure you don't have them). |
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* Note: This post has been found by the State of California to be a complete joke. Use as directed. :p |
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I hope the kopzorz don't find CD. We'll all be taken away in handcuffs! *sigh* The whole website is pretty amusing, actually. Quote:
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I am honestly not sure whether to believe this or not.
If this is a joke, it is probably one of the funniest nerd jokes I have seen in a good while. If it is serious, it mkaes me want to cry myslf to sleep at night. every night. until I am forty. nine |
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I like this: "Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour?" ... that's part of becoming a teenager! ;) |
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i only qualify for spending hours on the computer (especially on the internet) and installing odd music programs to try them out. ^^;; girls can be hackers too! >_> <_<
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So this article is basically saying my Dad and I are a father-son hacker combo? Interesting, I'll have to inform him of it. My whole family may classify as a group of hackers.
This seriously has to be the most funny/outrageous thing I've seen in a while. I'm debating whether to laugh hysterically or be seriously concerned that someone may believe this. |
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I.. don't know what to say... other than dressing like that, "DOSing" and grades dropping I fit all the criteria.
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Plus we do not hack into NASA, just because we are at their site a lot does not mean we hack into it. Sorry if I sound so revved up, as I was reading this I kept losing connection to my neighbors network. Its the closest thing to high speed I got! I just wish it was a little closer... |
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Id like to know how you break into somebodies stereo. And as long as we are on spelling mistakes its not Linyos Torovoltos its Linus Torvalds
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That is an awesome piece of humor.
This has been circulating around for a while now - and every time it shows up I'm very suprised that some people manage to believe it as a true article. It's satire - and an excellent piece of satire at that. |
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Ok. Some of you people are scaring me. I can't believe you are correcting spelling errors and rebutting some of the points. The article is satire 100%, just like the DaVinci Code is fiction! (oh drat... 114Klutz just posted on the satire part)
I'm guessing the spelling errors are intentional to avoid any copyright or libel concerns. Who wants to do the CD version of the Article- "10 signs your teenager is addicted to Chief Delphi?" Hurry the internet shuts down for the night in 1 hour and 24 minutes! Cynette |
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Oh please, everybody knows hacking into NASA is no big accomplishment. :p
But yeah, that article is a great piece of satire. Assuming it was intended that way, the author has my props. But they forgot the most important sign of all: Your son's English lessons consist solely of the translated Zerowing. |
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Here is what a lot of people who read that article do not understand. Yes, there are people that dumb in the world. And yes, some have access to the Internet. And yes, some do create stupid websites and try to preach their values to the world. But this website, and quite a few others, are purposely satirical with as much incorrect information as possible.
They contain downright lies and false facts, that are painfully obvious to any intelligent person. Think of this as either the "moral" behind a fable or subliminal messages on steroids - the real message behind these articles is to question the world around you, think critically, and make informed and intelligent choices. And because of this, I think the real author of this article was way smarter most people think, in order to create such a masterpiece of reverse psychology. And I applaud him (or her) for their efforts. |
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OK so i read the article and agree with the ridiculousness of it, although there is one fact that i think you all should see.
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I still think there is a good chance that this is a satire but if you look at it from a national historical aspect some things make more sense then today. |
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Thank you, Greg!
I was starting to think that I was the only one who noticed that it was labeled as "internet idiocy". |
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2001? I remember when this first went up.
Wow. I feel old. (How much flack am I going to get for saying that Mr. Tyler? ;)) Anyways, I think it actually was serious at the time, but it's since been realized to be little more use than humor as it's fairly...well...wrong :) |
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Well, I be a hacker according to this article (already spent many hours online this morning -- er, afternoon). 'Cept I'm a daughter, so I can't be.
Clues, folks, check out the clues.... I dunno wut AMD is, I don't remember names of any real hackers, but I wuz goin nuts readin an article littered with links like land mines. So I went to work clicking those links. Most of the ones that are still good go to "relevant" book titles on Amazon (chuckle). One went straight to a porno picture (yuck!). Even if a parent didn't know much of the "geek-speak" in the article, or what the current fashions are, the links alone reveal the satiric intent of the writer. No father with real fears about this subject would take the time to pepper his article with 2 or 3 links per sentence, let alone porn. No way is this guy serious! But the poll, of course, is right on -- they smell terrible! ;) |
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And if a poll with 11015 votes says that hackers smell bad, then it must be pretty darn accurate. :p |
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Weirdly enough, the satirist (is that a word?) is semi-right about AMD, although they were never third world, for a while they did just about copy intel processors (interfaces at least), stopped doing that, then pretty much dominated them with the K6.
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Argh, I read this article (with cody c, Kyle A and Brian) and laughed and yelled at it's utter lack of comprehension, compilation and common sense.
My spot list: I use more than 30 min online almost daily. I use Linux. Lunix=Linux. Linux was made by Linus Torvalds, a native of Helsinki, Finland and Linux was made in 1991, which was modeled after Minix, which was modeled after Unix, which was made by AT&T. AMD is an American company. And Intel is just as Un-american as them, because they both have their processors made in Indonesia. I ask for new parts all the time, and parts from the manufacturer are just if not more so suspect than parts you can buy off of TigerDirect or Newegg. Which, might I add, are both are certified secure by the Better Business Bureau. Quake? Quake is a Video.Game. Not a portal for your little Jimmy to be corrupted by the hacker elite. And quake happens to have been made in the late 90's, and is by today's terms obsolete. Fun, nonetheless :D . Bright colored clothes and baggy pants. Oh snap, I'm a hacker! I wear baggy cargo pants and my shirts all have illusions to popular internet culture! Oh snap, call the FBI!!! Not. It's how people dress that makes them different, not related to a certain archetype. Such identifying people by how they dress and in turn denying them things is called prejudice. Gets beligerrant and argumentative. Isn't that a part of the wonderful process called growing up? That the hormones in the body may make people a little more surly? Oh nope, that's called hacker syndrome. AOL? AOL? Please, AOL has to be, hands down, the worst ISP in the business, and not cause of privacy filter. Most, if not all services have the same capabilities, and I use Verizon online DSL, which is much better (albeit not perfect). That's about all I saw, and that's my basic rant. |
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For those who haven't caught on yet (some people still seem to be posting rants about it) the article is a satire. My personal favourite example of satire is A Modest Proposal (via Project Gutenberg) by Johnathan Swift.
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There is a serious danger that has not been mentioned, and that is SOMEONE WILL TAKE THIS ARTICLE SERIOUSLY.
If you read this entire thread you realize that it took a lot of thinking before someone pointed out that this was a JOKE. If took this many intelligent individuals at ChiefDelphi, then what will happen if a parent goes around the Internet and comes across this article? Imagine what the thoughts going through his or her mind: "Oh, no! What have I done to Jimmy's young mind?! I must burn his laptop or else its the electric chair!!! What kind of parent am I, to do this to my own son?!!" Ma'am, you're just insane. The problem with satire is that sometimes its humor is a little too subtle. |
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Ok, according to this, I am a hacker (BTW, I am not a "son")
Now will someone please come fix my computer??? ;) [Edit: I really am serious about the fix my computer, the cd drive decided to disapear and uninstall itself] |
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Really......hmm.....
Well, I'm mostly speechless. I did not really notice this was satire until it was pointed out, and I agree, in this particular case, the line was microbe thin. Now that I know that it's satire, I can probably attribute those mistakes to an attempt at a flame war. One thing I know: I will never visit Adequacy.org site for anything again. I'll stick to my /. and Digg. |
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Lately I've been having conversations with different people who are striving to see students trained in critical thinking (one chat in particular was about why a would-be engineer should be able to critique literature). A lot of media attention has been given to "functional literacy." But there are different kinds of literacy. Many kids enjoy reading story books and novels, and can quickly read piles of books straight through (think Hardy Boys). Good for them! But to be ready for high school and beyond, these same kids have to learn that a different approach is required for reading textbooks. This may seem silly to naturally talented scholars, but I once encountered a case where a student tried to read her textbook like a novel. She missed important information because she ignored the bold type--the chapter subheadings--and the information was not presented in the body of the text. As a result, she couldn't understand her lessons. Moving ahead to the "critical thinking" level--this is where a lot of people think their English classes are a waste of time. But, as was alleged in one of the above-mentioned conversations, millions of students are spending a lot of time on the Internet. They instantly download pages, then zip right through them like the pages are pulp fiction. They don't read critically. They don't read between the lines. They don't ask hard questions, such as: "What is this author REALLY trying to say?" "What are the author's credentials?" "Is it reasonable to regard this as a trustworthy site?" "Are there serious logical or factual errors?" Those who fail to pay attention as they read will be sitting ducks for anyone who wants to take advantage of them. Inattentive readers can be easily misled or manipulated by advertisers, news media, forwarded e-mails-- even by people who may get involved with FIRST to achieve their own private agendas rather than to benefit the community. Sloppy readers can easily misunderstand someone, and make fools of themselves with their off-target responses. Satirists generally expect their audience to be intelligent--AND they expect them to be paying attention. Most people who enjoy satire would feel insulted if the author made the humor blatantly obvious to even the dullest near-literate stumbling around the Internet. Part of the fun of satire is that it starts out appearing serious, but the deeper in you get, the more you get a strange feeling about what's being said...then you begin to chuckle, and maybe end up roaring with laughter. (Unless you disagree--then you might be hopping mad.) I think the piece of satire that is the subject of this thread is just about right-- neither too subtle nor too obvious. I remember a prank played on CD some years ago where the author DID make it too subtle. A lot of people believed it, and quickly became very upset. A reader had to be fairly Internet-savvy to catch on to the single clue that clearly betrayed the stunt. On the other hand, the "hacker" article is packed with clues everywhere in the page. |
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People will believe lots of things they see and hear. Guess what? That's their problem. They have to develop critical thinking skills. They have to know they can't rely on a single source. They have to know anyone can post anything they want on the Internet, but that doesn't make it true. Satire can be subtle - indeed, subtlety is what makes satire work. Figuring it out, despite it being tricky, is what makes it funny. And really good satire will have an underlying point to make, usually something totally opposite the apparent obvious message. |
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Tawnos luvs LUNIX!!!! It's 1337!
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Also a little on AMD it stands for
American Micro Devices For the article I was starting to get concerned that this guy was serious and that there were amny people out there reading that areticle beleiveing every word. |
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I love Lunix! *hacker alert!*
I can't even believe that I would buy computer parts that weren't made in America! That is soooo hacker like! (I love my AMD 64 3000+, so I must be a super hacker!) |
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i know how to get around the school system's firewall WITHOUT hacking into the school's mainframe and thats why i'm the only person that knows how to get around period (plus i'm not allowed on the computer that has internet at home and i get real bored at school without being able to get onto MySpace. but i'm on MySpace right now.)
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you know whats funny about that article, my dad fits all of those, and actually teaches me hacking! ie:how to get around firewalls in schools and other things looking up private IP codes and such...he even owns a whole bookcase of hacker books, installed linux on all of our comps (wayyyy cooler than windows i have to say), buys comp stuff that my mom doesnt understand (however, its my mom)...I love how they talked about the kids social life and how he dresses! I know people that dress like that, but they know squat about computers! :D :D :D
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Lol, what a bunch of nonsense! :rolleyes:
The article wasn't completely useless though, at least now I know the titles of the next nine books I'm gonna read. ;) |
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Always check the parent site of any article you read. It can be, illuminating.
Take a look at the FAQ for adequacy.com, although be forewarned that little of the site is 'worksafe'. It's a joke. If it wasn't obvious in the article then the rest of the site proves it. They come out and say it's all a silly joke site right in the FAQ. Nothing on that site is serious and it was never intended for general consumption. It's not terribly funny either. The site went dead years ago, and has been in archive since. I wouldn't give it any more thought. -Andy A. |
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I am most definitly a hacker bi need more RAM and a new harddrive i run linux and i am getting a C++ book soon and i know every program on my computer i dont need them to hide.
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yeah i realised that i little while after my post but was too lazy to fix it :rolleyes:
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I guess that means that i am a hacker... Or just a nerd, who likes having a fast computer... Everyone needs memory
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If Flash is hacker software, we're all screwed. Best line ever.
If I didnt know allready that would have pointed out "Joke" right away. |
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I hope this guy's joking. The Article is really funny though. My family got a few laughs out of it. If anybody has any outrageous articles like this one, please post it here. I'm interested in seeing what other people have to say on such topics. :cool: [Edit] I think that guy spelt Linux wrong!!! |
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It is satire but what is sad to me is that some uneducated parents may believe it and thats when problems happen. |
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We all know that show is just truthiness. :p |
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wow i definatly fit a lot of those and i have the t-shirt
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I recommend Snow Crash and Neuromancer. Classics. Cryptonomicon is pretty good for those with a paranoid bent too.
I was expecting the words "Anonymous," "Hackers on Steroids," and "Internet Hate Machine," and footage of an exploding van until I saw the article date... |
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ok... eric s raymond is just plain cool!
onoes! im a computer hacker (i m more of a hardware hacker) but the team "hacker" is loosely used these days. and besides... i use amd and i love it. it overclocks better than most intels. omg! and im using linux! this site isnt even accurate. "BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone." the truth is that linux was based off of unix and it is a strong os. linux torvalds is was from helsinki and has a family. the truth of xenix "In the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs such as Intel, Tandy, Altos and SCO who then provided a finished version of their own Xenix to the end-users or other customers. SCO introduced its first version of Xenix named SCO Xenix System V for the Intel 8086 and 8088 in 1983. Today SCO Xenix is one of the more commonly used and found versions of Xenix." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices this whole article was created as a joke or by some totally computer illiterate person who is terrified at our youth becoming ub3r 31337 haxx0rz (i couldnt resist the 1337speek) http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...2219.3493.html also from there site... "communism and daycare" http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...95736.251.html RMS is a cool man! and yet these people are stabbing at him. |
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Hah. The ones that fit me are:
Time on computer. (I'm online, unless I'm in class or sleeping or eating.) Non-AOL. (Is it a bad sign that I don't know what ISP I'm on?) The sad part is, I'm at a tech school. That isn't on the list, but should be. |
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I think the guy is way off on the stereo-type of hackers. When is the last time anyone has seen someone with a pacifier? Also, most of the people I see at my school with weird hair colors don't know a thing about computers.
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Well, I think that I've got one just as good as the Hacking one. I looked deeper into the site, and guess what... The same author had another article entitled "Death Machines". You gotta see it It's at http://www.adequacy.org/public/stori...066.17648.html This is a little more realistic/practical than the Hacker article, but in this one they dis Gran Turismo, Need For Speed, and basically all racing movies!:ahh:
I, Personally am a hardcore Gran Turismo Fan. (#5's coming out this year) see http://us.playstation.com/granturismo/ Well,the hacker article is funny, but is the author REALLY serious? Oh, and by the way most of his hyperlinks are bogus... Much thanks Kristian Calhoun for this starting this thread!:yikes: |
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...they left out "steal this computer book 4.0" it's not exactly a manual but it's certainly a good place to start for a little basic know-how.
i have AMD i use linux i have AOL but that's my dad's fault i spend a lot of time on the computer however i'm in honors/AP classes and i have As and Bs But my favorite part of this article by far is that Quake makes you a hacker fun game? absolutely Make you a "1337 h4xx0r"? hell no! |
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That article was written by a REALLY miss-informed person. Almost all of what was said in that article applied to me. A have Arch Linux, and Gentoo on my laptop, and you have to use a console/terminal (I use a virtual console most of the time =D) to update your whole system/ install new packages/ anything. One part of the article said you can't uninstall Linux without harming your HDD, well thats a lie, you can actually how windows installed, clear space on your hard drive, make a partition for Linux, and install Linux on that, and then delete your Linux partition (if you don't like it but, you'll most likely delete the windows partition since Linux is really addictive), and expand the windows partition again without any harm at all.
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linux won't harm your hard drive. however i know way too many people who are used to windows and when they see me running linux it looks "wrong" to them because its not windows or mac OS X (and most of them think those are the only two operating systems that exist) and they find it unfamiliar so i must have "broken the computer"
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I think that looking at some of the other articles on the site(one of the "favorites" that I found: Reality TV is getting us desensitized to communism), makes it clear that this site is most likely a parody site, or one for conspiracy theorists. There was also one (not really SFW, so I won't post the details), that suggested "shutting off the internet" at night, saying it would be tricky because of time zones, but somebody at Microsoft could figure it out. That same article referred to Lunix(note the misspelling consistent across the site) as the "zone" that held most of the "underbelly" of the internet.
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:( i cant beleive the dumb parent who wrote that article. not only did he accuse his son who is most likely innocent, but he is incorrect in all of that stuff., He probably wanted to change ISP cuz of a crappy connection. He installed some cursor and smiley programs along with flash, he wuz interested on how ppl hack, he plays an online game for fun, HE MISPELLED THE BEST OS IN THE WORLD WHICH EVERYONE KNOWS IS LINUX!! lol :yikes: Hes a nerd. haha, with all of that crap, it mostly fits me besides some details
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Just a note to those of you who are new to this thread, especially if you haven't read the middle of it (around page 3 & 4)-- I think the readers in the early days of this thread determined that it is, indeed, satire. So please don't take it seriously--it's meant for laughs.
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I like how it's always "You're son". Is the heinous stereotype of girls not being able to use technology so strong here that it restricts the idea of hacking only to teenage males? Girls, I hereby encourage you to hack this guy's system and mess with his mind. Feel free to dress monochromatically and suceed in school while you're at it.
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haha 2 yes's and 2 mabys :D
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Huh.
Well then, other than the fact that I'm female. I've been a hacker for ages it seems. I "struggled" academically in school at times, I spend hours upon hours on the internet, I was fascinated with Linux for quite a bit...I mean, "Lunix". My clothings style leaves my mother confused with all the chains, blackness, buttons, pins, and rips. I am, "argumentative" at times with my mother. Mmm, I haven't read a hacker manual. But, I do watch Hacker on tv, and read the manga sometimes. Oh, I also download a ton of programs...meaning I also asked my mom for a comp with more memory. So, according to this guy. I'm probably a master hacker in his eyes. But, this is also pretty funny, yet sad at the same time. It shows the stupidity of people, because I don't believe he's serious. Yet, I'm sure some parent out there may actually think like this...in which case, I feel sorry for their kid. I wonder if the fact I use Google Chrome may factor into this too? lol. |
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