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Reyner 30-05-2006 18:03

Buy a painting of your team number!
 
Paintings of the numbers 1-1000 are being sold here. These have special significance to us FIRST-a-holics, so check it out! (sorry to post-2003 rookies!)

viking1902 30-05-2006 18:09

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ha ha! i wish i had come up with that idea. if they can manage to sell all those things, they are gonna make a good deal of money.

Tyler 783 30-05-2006 18:40

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Hmm only $65.10... I would so buy it for that, the only problem is I already have my credit card maxed with my rent... that kinda sucks!! Hopefuly it doesn't get to the next hundred before i pay off my credit card.

sanddrag 30-05-2006 19:10

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That has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen. And what makes me angry is whoever is doing it will probably become filthy rich from it.

Nuttyman54 30-05-2006 19:16

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ok who had the NERVE to buy 971????

Billfred 30-05-2006 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
That has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen. And what makes me angry is whoever is doing it will probably become filthy rich from it.

I have to agree, the concept is a little silly to me. That said, folks made a guy a millionaire (or darn close to it) buying pixels on a web page. If someone comes up with a creative enough means to get folks to part with their money, more power to 'em.

Chrisms 30-05-2006 19:19

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i tend to agree with him... It's a number, painted. the number.. in blue... probably times new roman. It's not art, it's a number. look what you get for $65 dollars:



so what if it's "one of a kind" go out, buy some paint, and paint your own number. Only, use your team colors, and make it more artistic.

at first, when i saw each number had a wikipedia definition of the number i thought that maybe the painting was a cleaver combination of pictures from all those events that formed the number... but then i saw it's just blue.

don't waste your money on this, go treat a couple friends to a movie or something, it'll bring you a lot more joy than a blue number that anyone can write.

tiffany34990 30-05-2006 19:34

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it is very silly. you can do this much cheaper. but someone has a dream and their own artist expression is this. interesting but i don't think many of us would buy this. especially if you look at the price. i looked up 179 (Swampthing :) 180 already taken)
Current Price: $246.30 Value: $821.00 .... i mean...ya.... i think we can do a lot more with that money than a canvas with our number on it. buy a VEX kit, sponsor a LEGO team... much more.... creating a difference in the future generations... well that is priceless...and these are expensive.

Freddy Schurr 30-05-2006 19:35

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$238.80: 204

Billfred 30-05-2006 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisms
i tend to agree with him... It's a number, painted. the number.. in blue... probably times new roman.

Actually, it's another font. The font seen on the artworks is a sans-serif font, meaning they lack the little "feet" seen in a serif font like Times New Roman.

That said, I can say with absolute certainty that whatever font they did use doesn't come with Mac OS X 10.4.6. (Only one of the fonts was a decent match for that somewhat distinctive 1 in the above photo, and none could match the 6.)

Fonts are an interesting thing to play with, especially when you're looking to differentiate your words. While fonts such as Verdana, Arial, and Times New Roman tend to rule the day on the Web, you can really get creative with printed items. Compare, for example, 1293's 2004 t-shirt (seen here) with the team's 2006 shirt. Neither is a bad shirt, but most would agree that the latter is a bit more distinctive. Arial Black (which is the typeface used for the 1293 on the 2004 shirt) is a bit more common than Blade Runner (used for 2006), which would help it to stand out a bit better in a crowd of numbered shirts.

(Granted, uniqueness can also lead to multiple teams using the same font for its uniqueness--I know for a fact that 121 uses the same font on their shirts and robot.)

Koko Ed 30-05-2006 19:49

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I wouldn't get too worked up over this. It's easy enough to just say no and if someone chooses to spend your money on this then that is thier business. Better than wasting it on gambling I suppose.
I don't expect it to make millions though.

sanddrag 30-05-2006 19:51

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well, if they sell every one of them at just $50 that is still $50,000. :mad:

Koko Ed 30-05-2006 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
well, if they sell every one of them at just $50 that is still $50,000. :mad:

Why would you be so angry if somebody had come up with a surefire way to make money. If you are going to be angry at someone be angry at the people who are "wasting" thier money.

Bill_Hancoc 30-05-2006 20:33

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i was looking at their price scheme and the value=1000-number so is the number 1000 free??? and why are higher numbers still cheaper???whats so special about the low numbers?? AND DUE TO THE EXTREMELY HIGH DEMAND IT MAY TAKE WEEKS BEFORE YOU R PAINTING IS READY TO SHIP. what is so special that it takes weeks????i could print these all off with my printer in a matter of days...if that

Katie Reynolds 30-05-2006 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tiffany34990
... Current Price: $246.30 Value: $821.00 ....

When I was a kid, I remember telling my dad that I had a Beanie Baby worth $400.

He said, "No, you don't."

I told him, "But the Beanie Baby Buying Guide says it's worth $400!"

He said, "I'll give you $5 for it."

I said, "But it's worth $400."

"That's where you're wrong," he said. "It's only worth what someone will pay for it."

I thought it was dumb at the time, but it was a good lesson. The painting is only worth $821, if you can find someone who will pay that much for it!

KenWittlief 30-05-2006 21:48

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$65.10? for an unsigned painting?

tell you what, if anyone wants a painting of their team number I will create a number painting for you, for ONLY $64.95!

and I will sign it for FREE!

Bill_Hancoc 30-05-2006 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds

"That's where you're wrong," he said. "It's only worth what someone will pay for it."

Have i heard that pleanty of times my dad sayd that all the time

Ryan Dognaux 30-05-2006 22:18

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Honestly, I hope this person sells every last one of them. These things are awesome and the internet makes it possible.

I think things like this are great. For example, http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com/ is another example of how the internet can be used - this guy has slowly but surely traded up from one red paperclip to bigger and better things.

RogerR 30-05-2006 22:25

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the painting of number '42' has sold out.

go figure.

Jeff Rodriguez 30-05-2006 22:34

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So, who's got the most expensive one?
173 is $248.10

Rohith Surampudi 30-05-2006 22:46

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umm I'm not quite sure why these are worth so much, if i went out and painted a number on a piece of canvas i wouldn't get more than 2 bucks for it, it looks like a waste of money, if you have access to a high DPI Plotter or printer you can make even more awesome prints of your team number.

Daisy 30-05-2006 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogre
So, who's got the most expensive one?
173 is $248.10

from the one's still available that'd be 16. From the original, that'd be 1. They have the handy dandy calculator, that takes the number out of 1000! And then you have a 70% discount! woo hoo. Oh look, it went to 60%. Who bought 100 of these? I don't even understand payment for it signed. 200 DOLLARS for a board?

kind of ironic that the one that requires the least amount of work, is the one that someone paid most for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.onethousandpaintings.com/home/
Price calculator:
Value = 1000 - number.
Initial discount: 90%.
Current discount: 60%.
The discount will decrease by an absolute 10% for every 100 paintings sold.
Min. price: $40.

haha, this is the kind of thing that makes me laugh.

Daisy

KenWittlief 31-05-2006 09:21

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I just heard a rumor that number 391 was left blank by accident (a mistake by the artist)

this makes the blank 391 painting very rare: it is presently valued by Llyods of Lundon at $72,395,000 (US)

Lil' Lavery 31-05-2006 15:24

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116 sold, go figure, but 115 and 117 are still there :/

Reyner 31-05-2006 18:22

Re: Buy a painting of your team number!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sanddrag
Whoever is doing it will probably become filthy rich from it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux
These things are awesome and the internet makes it possible.

Yeah, it's kind of a stupid thing, but it just goes to show you what the internet can do!

Richard Wallace 31-05-2006 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie Reynolds
"That's where you're wrong," he said. "It's only worth what someone will pay for it."

This principle is often quoted in Latin: Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest - A thing is worth only what someone else will pay for it.

Back in the day (and probably even today in someone's Latin classroom) this was one of the quotes that students memorized. It is still a favorite of financial advisors, and many fathers.

The "res tantum" principle is closely related to my grandmother's favorite adage: A fool and his money are soon parted. Purchasers of the subject paintings certainly prove that one.

Mr. Freeman 31-05-2006 19:16

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Seems to me that someone could make even more money by figuring out what font they used and printing off tons of identical signs and selling them for $20 on the internet.

You'd just have to advertise your site equally as well as this other site.

Ashley Weed 31-05-2006 19:33

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I was actually considering buying one for the $60 or so.

However, 84 is currently at $458. So, forget that idea. I'll doodle on paper.

Gabe 31-05-2006 22:52

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Who on Earth bought our team number 604??? :confused: Who else would ever need our number? :confused: WHERE IS 6-0-4?!?! :confused:

Next, who would ever be foolish enough to buy this?

RoboMadi 31-05-2006 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed
Why would you be so angry if somebody had come up with a surefire way to make money. If you are going to be angry at someone be angry at the people who are "wasting" thier money.

LOL. so true.
just wondering "WHO BOUGHT 612? :mad: " (like i care :rolleyes: )

KenWittlief 01-06-2006 10:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe
Who on Earth bought our team number 604??? :confused: Who else would ever need our number? :confused: WHERE IS 6-0-4?!?! :confused:

Next, who would ever be foolish enough to buy this?

Uhmmmmm I have it. How much are you willing to pay?

If you dont buy it from me I will kill it on July 4th and eat it for dinner! :ahh:

nuggetsyl 01-06-2006 10:57

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If this guy is really selling the number paintings for that price i think i want to do it in red then Moe green then Buzz yellow.

John Gutmann 01-06-2006 14:55

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I got it!!!!!

The 256 ascii character paintings.....

I said it first you all heard me......

*starts to list on ebay*

Cptn Patches537 01-06-2006 17:11

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Upon further review, thats bad. But go make one in graphic arts or something.
-Eric

EricH 01-06-2006 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn Patches537
Ok guys, heres what you do. Don't buy these silly things, get the tallest person on your team to take down your pit marker from a regional/nationals. It's free, and it even has the first logo on it. Hang that up on your wall, it will mean a lot more in memories then some random painting ever will.
-Eric

Read the manual first. Taking those is officially considered theft.

lukevanoort 01-06-2006 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH
Read the manual first. Taking those is officially considered theft.

Eric is right, but there is a legal way to get a copy of that particular sign.
1) Bring a (good) digital camera to the competition (ideally one that can deal with low light)
2) Somehow block some light to the sign to reduce glare, turn off your flash
3) Take a picture
4) Go to a nearby copy store like FedEx/Kinkos to get a large print that is laminated
5) Hang on wall

You could also figure out the fonts and copy the sign, print it out and laminate it.

Jeff Waegelin 02-06-2006 13:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH
Read the manual first. Taking those is officially considered theft.

I found that quite odd when it was announced at Waterloo... it's one of those things that's buried in the manual that I'd never noticed. We took ours (not knowing it was against the rules) at Great Lakes, but had new ones when we got to Waterloo. It makes me wonder if they actually re-use the signs, or if they just thought they might...

Ebolagirl 10-06-2006 12:55

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Ok, so I sat here and thought about this for a while, and I also dug through the number art web page a little. And I came up with a few thoughts:

First of all, I think people are being most ungraciously unprofessional in expressing their opinions about this particular subject. These people came up with and idea and it's been a hit. Calling what they are doing "stupid", etc. is very unFIRST-like. True, artists are accustomed to being criticized, but, that is an inappropriate manner for this situation.

Something I've noticed in the engineering and science worlds is a lack of appreciation of art and related subjects, and vice versa. "This is an experiment of art and mathematics, on the web". Art is not suppose to make sense. It can be logical or illogical, abstract or realistic. And while you may not necessarily like the kind of art being displayed you should at least appreciate what the artist has put into it. I went to school at the Liberal Arts and Science Academy for high school (I just graduated). Before my freshman year the academies were seperated into two schools,when they were combined there was a lot of heat between the science/math people and the liberal arts people. Most of the tension was created by attitudes like this from both sides. I'm not saying that you have to like what the other side is doing, but at least have an understanding of where they're coming from. Instead of furthering the tension between liberal arts and science/math by bashing the other side, we need to respect what they do.

"My favourite number is already sold. Can you make a copy for me?
Absolutely not! The limit is the art - each number exists only once. I will never make a copy of any of these paintings." This is from the Q&A section on the website. The purpose of this quote is to emphasize that these numbers are ART.

KenWittlief 10-06-2006 16:31

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art is a reflection of the inner nature of the artist. When you look at a painting an artist has created what you are really seeing is the world through the eyes of that artist

which tells you a great deal about that person. If you connect with the artist through their work, then you have connected with another human on a very deep and profound level.

That being said, a lot of nonsense has been passed off as art over the years, esp since the invention of photography, when many artists said "what are we going to do for a living NOW?"

You cant judge an artist by one work. This series of number paintings is in essence one piece of work. The question is, what else has this artist produced?

If the answer is nothing, then this is a shallow attempt to make money on the internet. Looking at the website I see no reference to any other work by this person, so I am leading toward the negative.

By contrast, if someone like Andy Warhol had done something like this it would be taken more seriously, because of the wealth of things he had created during his life.

Tetraman 10-06-2006 18:27

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174 is still open....If I had a piggy bank I'd crack it open.

Dan Zollman 10-06-2006 21:14

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WOW. Are those numbers really what's shown on the bottom of the front page? The plain blue ones with the white background?

I understand that art can be anything and art can be simple. A collage of cutouts from a newspaper can be art and a nail glued to a yellow piece of paper can be art. I can out the letter A in Times New Roman on a normal piece of paper and cut it out, and that's art...right?

Second, we make better paintings of numbers (any color, any size, any font, directly on any surface) for less than a dollar by printing and cutting out letters or numbers, tracing, cutting out of poster or foam board, and using a little spray paint.

I don't know why anybody would pay $60 for one of those or why people would want it enough for the prices to go up that high.

I think it makes a certain statement about our culture, both because those numbers are honored as art and also because such art is valued so highly.

windup zeppelin 10-06-2006 21:50

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this has got me to think about makeing the team #'s in coligraphy

Ebolagirl 11-06-2006 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by worldbringer

I understand that art can be anything and art can be simple. A collage of cutouts from a newspaper can be art and a nail glued to a yellow piece of paper can be art. I can out the letter A in Times New Roman on a normal piece of paper and cut it out, and that's art...right?...

I think it makes a certain statement about our culture, both because those numbers are honored as art and also because such art is valued so highly.

If you are trying to make a statement or you have certain intentions behind creating that piece of art (perhaps Dada-istic intentions), then yes, that would be considered art. But, this is all art philosophy, a very fluffy subject, but one I am passionate about because I create "art" on occasion (when I'm not consumed by other things, like building robots, etc.)

And yes, the kind of art we value now-a-days in totally a reflection of our culture. If you look throughout history every time there has been a major cultural change (and even minor cultural changes) the has been a revolution in the types of literature, music, and art produced. One of the most prominant example is the change that occured at the end of the Victorian era into the "Modern" era. Modern art came about and the older styles of painting (landscapes, etc.) became less popular. Artists began experimenting with different mediums. Even the rank of artists in society changed, from highly revered and respected to more outcasted. So yeah, basically art says a lot.

mechanicalbrain 11-06-2006 17:51

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Mines sold already! :(

Daniel_LaFleur 16-06-2006 13:19

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Art is perception. If you believe something is art then it is art.

Saying it is 'stupid' though tends to be rather shortsighted. Just because it does not match your description of art, does not not make it art.

Personally, I don't think this is art, but I don't have any issues with those that do believe it is art. I also don't believe that those twisted, mangled pieces of iron in front of the library is art, even though they call it modern art [but thats probably just my perception].

What this 'artist' is doing is being an entrepreneur, and selling something that (apparently) the market wants. Its no different than selling pixels on a web page or pet rocks for your bedroom.

I won't buy one because I don't see it as art. If someone else does....who am I to disagree.


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