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Arkorobotics 05-07-2006 20:21

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
You know how jets landing on aircraft carriers with a cable, does anyone think that would work for this? Like have a cable out and have it hook on and slow it down?

bear24rw 05-07-2006 23:47

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkorobotics
You know how jets landing on aircraft carriers with a cable, does anyone think that would work for this? Like have a cable out and have it hook on and slow it down?

The only thing that i can see possibly going wrong with that is if it hit the cable and then bounces back... Do you plan on just having a length of cable pulled taught between two poles or something?

Andrew Blair 06-07-2006 00:20

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
Why not just have it track in a circle? Bind up one wheel a bit, get in a large area of pavement, let it go, and when it comes back around at 20 mph, throw a coat on it.

Or you could just grab a friend and put him 75 yards downrange.

bear24rw 06-07-2006 01:08

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Blair
Why not just have it track in a circle? Bind up one wheel a bit

Instead of binding a wheel why not just angle the front one?

Arkorobotics 06-07-2006 01:37

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Blair
Or you could just grab a friend and put him 75 yards downrange.

ummm .. I did that to my friend and trying to catch a chunk of metal going 20MPH that has 2 fast fan blades is not a good idea. He actually slowed it down by kicking it a bit (not enought to damage it) and then jumped forward and used his hands to stop it. You can really get hurt trying to stop it. :(

It also now has a name now, it's called "Kamikaze". The reason is that if you don't stop it .. it will commit suicide. There are no brakes no controls and it's going 20MPH in a specific direction, so it's a Kamikaze... sorta. :D

Nuttyman54 06-07-2006 14:52

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
you could make it like a control-line plane and just tie a string/cable to it

sanddrag 07-07-2006 23:41

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
I just drove my RC car with the same speed control and there is something like a 1 second delay before you can go into reverse. And just like you said, there is less power in reverse. Make sure you calibrate it though if you haven't already. There's a chance you may get slightly increased performance.

amos229 08-07-2006 13:29

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
i would position a servo on each wheel and then just rub one wheel or the other with a bar connected to a servo. hit both wheels to stop.

gblake 09-07-2006 17:28

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
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Originally Posted by amos229
i would position a servo on each wheel and then just rub one wheel or the other with a bar connected to a servo. hit both wheels to stop.

Steering & Braking Options (some already discussed)
  • Two Hooks, one on each side. A servo on each can drag the on the ground to steer. Put both down to slow down or stop like a carrier landing.
  • Two bars, one on each side. A servo on each bar can drag that bar on a rear wheel to slow that wheel.
  • Get control over the fan speeds.
  • Mount the fans on rotating platforms aimed by geared servos. Point the fans toward opposite sides to stop. Point them at the same off-axis point to steer.
  • Stop (once) by deploying a parachute that is attached to the car and catches all the wind from the fans.
  • Turn (and slow/stop) by dropping raising baffle plates behind the fans. To stop have the plates block all thrust coming out of the fans (leave a gap between the plates and the fan.
  • Turn by putting a rudder (on the nose or) aft of the fans. Aft is better.
  • Stop by lifting the nose wheel and letting a nose mounted skid plate create enough friction to slow you to a crawl.
  • Turn by making an "active" chassis that uses a servo to slightly alter the rear wheel alignments and makes the robot turn.
  • Stop by running into a pillowcase or net (or high grass).
  • Stop by running your power through a switch that only remains closed if you have a command from your remote telling a servo to keep it closed. Good for safety...
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  • My wife Jodie came up with this one - Raise and lower air-dams (sort-of like the ailerons on a wing) to create enough drag to turn it, instead of using a rudder.
  • Instead of popping a chute; for a one-time stop, you could drop a grappling hook or anchor.

I still like the idea of plates that open/close over the back of the fans to let thrust out and/or point it. It will have sort-of a jet engine look to it; can be controlled by chains and sprockets from the middle of the machine; and if the default is to block the thrust, they will give you both a smoothly controlled start-up and a failsafe mode (I think you can rig this using just the default code).
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Also - Put some shielding (strong screening won't hurt airflow but will keep fingers and other debris out) on the front and back of those fans, and some padding on the leading edges of this missile. Do it before someone gets hurt....

Blake

Arkorobotics 09-07-2006 17:59

Re: pic: Twin Fan Powered Vex Prototype#2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1885.Blake
Steering & Braking Options (some already discussed)
  • Two Hooks, one on each side. A servo on each can drag the on the ground to steer. Put both down to slow down or stop like a carrier landing.

Also - Put some shielding (strong screening won't hurt airflow but will keep fingers and other debris out) on the front and back of those fans, and some padding on the leading edges of this missile. Do it before someone gets hurt....

Blake

The two hook idea is excellent I think I will try that, it is cheap and easy to make. Plus I just want to experiment around, I want to see if it works. So thank you.

And yes.. I did put a cover over the fans that don't effect the intake, and still give out the same power.


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