Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

I'm going to say why we need Chairman's in Fantasy FIRST from a different perspective. The point values is a whole different discussion, but here's why we need to keep Chairman's (and all the other awards):
In one of my Fantasy Football leagues, points (including negative) can be acheived a whopping 28 different ways. Even if you combine the different ways to score touchdowns, etc, you still have more than 20 ways to score points. If you remove awards from Fantasy FIRST, you have a mere 6. Wins, Losses, Ties, Ranking, Selection and Elimination Advancement. Some would argue your WLT could be combined into Record, and Ranking is based primarily on your record, and is effectively "double scoring" your record (which is why is typically isn't used in FantasyFIRST). Beyond that, due to the massive variables, WLT often doesn't really reflect the caliber of robot a team built (401, while a solid team in 2006, really should not have been 2nd seeded on Archimedes, for example).
Now granted, an average Football player will usually not score points in more than 3 or 4 different ways, but there are also typically 6+ different positions in Fantasy Football. There arn't any "positions" in Fantasy FIRST. By allowing awards to give points, you create more oppurtunities for participants to structure their alliances how they wish. They can go for the consistant team who should get a winning record and advance to the elimination rounds without a problem, or the team with a shakier robot, but a chance to win Chairman's (and a skilled FF participant often knows some of the Chairman's contenders). In a way, it creates "positions" for Fantasy FIRST.

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

I still say, it should not be in Fantasy First. Cant really say anything to convince me otherwise, ive heard all the arguements.

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

Also the chairmans award adds another interesting criteria to choosing your alliance.

I agree with this rule change.

P.S. anyone have any ideas how to be at a college like mcgill and still be active in FIRST since there are absolutely no teams within a 45 min radius

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

VEX and FLL.

I have no clue where the nearest FRC team is, so i helped start FLL and FVC with the local middle and high school. It's not always about the big bots. ;)

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

Volunteer.

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

Yeah.. I missed that :p

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

That was the scoring system used for most regionals, which I have no problem with.


But, for a couple off-season events:
or a variant of that was used.

The problem with that off-season formula used is the alliance selection part. It actually penelizes you if you had a top 8 team that accepted an invitation to an even higher alliance. For instance, you had the #4 seeded team, but they were the first selection. You then receive 10 points for the #1 pick instead of 15 if they had been AC4.

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

That scoring system is a good attempt, but what about if your team GETS a penalty?

It's no fair to make a selection only to find out the selection ends up taking too many penalties. After all, if we were actually on the field with the job of alliance selection, we would take a team with fewer penalties even if the other team was automatic a number of other ways.

After all, penalties (just like in football) can make or break games and championships.

Re: [FF]: Rule changes for 2007
 

It's simple. If a team gets enough penalties, they'll lose the match. That swings your score by four points (from 2 to -2 for that match). In leagues where margins of victory can be tight (I won Palmetto by one point), this can be a reasonably big setback.