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Firefox Beta 2! (also poll)

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Originally Posted by desktoplinux.com

Mozilla released Beta 2 of its upcoming Firefox 2 browser for developer review Aug. 31, emphasizing that it is being made available for testing purposes only. The release contains a number of new features, as well as some enhancements to look and feel.

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"Firefox 2 Beta 2 is intended for Web application developers and our testing community," the team said on the Mozilla development website. "Current users of Firefox 1.x should not use Firefox 2 Beta 2 and expect all of their extensions and plugins to work properly.

The final Firefox 2.0 is expected to be completed in early 2007, the team said. More beta versions are expected to be released this fall and winter.

Key new features in beta 2, as listed by the team, include:

* Visual refresh -- Firefox 2's theme and user interface have been updated to improve usability without altering the familiarity of the browsing experience. For instance, toolbar buttons now glow when you hover over them.

* Built-in phishing protection -- Phishing Protection warns users when they encounter suspected Web forgeries, and offers to return the user to their home page. Phishing Protection is turned on by default, and works by checking sites against either a local or online list of known phishing sites. This list is automatically downloaded and regularly updated when the Phishing Protection feature is enabled.

* Enhanced search capabilities -- Search term suggestions will now appear as users type in the integrated search box when using the Google, Yahoo! or Answers.com search engines. A new search engine manager makes it easier to add, remove and re-order search engines, and users will be alerted when Firefox encounters a website that offers new search engines that the user may wish to install.

* Improved tabbed browsing -- By default, Firefox will open links in new tabs instead of new windows, and each tab will now have a close tab button. Power users who open more tabs than can fit in a single window will see arrows on the left and right side of the tab strip that let them scroll back and forth between their tabs. The History menu will keep a list of recently closed tabs, and a shortcut lets users quickly re-open an accidentally closed tab.

* Resuming your browsing session -- The Session Restore feature restores windows, tabs, text typed in forms, and in-progress downloads from the last user session. It will be activated automatically when installing an application update or extension, and users will be asked if they want to resume their previous session after a system crash.

* Previewing and subscribing to Web feeds -- Users can decide how to handle Web feeds (like this one), either subscribing to them via a Web service or in a standalone RSS reader, or adding them as Live Bookmarks. My Yahoo!, Bloglines and Google Reader come pre-loaded as Web service options, but users can add any Web service that handles RSS feeds.

* Inline spell checking -- A new built-in spell checker enables users to quickly check the spelling of text entered into Web forms.

* Live Titles -- When a website offers a microsummary (a regularly updated summary of the most important information on a Web page), users can create a bookmark with a "Live Title." Compact enough to fit in the space available to a bookmark label, they provide more useful information about pages than static page titles, and are regularly updated with the latest information. There are several websites that can be bookmarked with Live Titles, and even more add-ons to generate Live Titles for other popular websites.

* Improved Add-ons manager -- The new Add-ons manager improves the user interface for managing extensions and themes, combining them both in a single tool.

* New Windows installer: Based on Nullsoft Scriptable Install System, the new Windows installer resolves many long-standing issues.

Who's excited?

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Originally Posted by thegathering

Who's excited?

Not gonna lie, I've lost all bladder control.

But on a serious note, I hope they've fixed the memory leak problem. I don't like 30% of my memory being devoted to a browser.

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Firefox is great, and a new improved version is just awesome. :cool: I can't wait to try it once it comes out.

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im still waiting for firefox to start using less memory.....like 1/3 of what it is now would be great..
/forest

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Remember, you can dig up forum stats like browser use in the "Extras" section of the "Quick Links" Menu.

This month, the usage was...
MS IE - 3418465 - 54.1 %
Firefox - 2362457 - 37.4 %
Safari - 218809 - 3.4 %
Opera - 119316 - 1.8 %
Mozilla - 73944 - 1.1 %
Unknown - 61528 - 0.9 %
Netscape - 35761 - 0.5 %
Wget - 8715 - 0.1 %
Konqueror - 3972 - 0 %
Camino - 2821 - 0 %

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Firefox is the only way to go :)

Tabs are amazing.

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Originally Posted by InfernoX14

Firefox is the only way to go :)

Tabs are amazing.

Ditto

I couldnt live without tabbed browsing now that i have had it...not to mention extensions such as All-In-One Gestures...i have fallen in love with that extension....i even find myself trying to use it in Windows explorer

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Originally Posted by InfernoX14

Firefox is the only way to go :)

Tabs are amazing.

Yeah, I love tabs! :D

Some of the new tab features, like the one that opens links in a new tab instead of a window, are really cool. I can't wait to see it completed.

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Originally Posted by AtalanteStar25

Yeah, I love tabs! :D

Some of the new tab features, like the one that opens links in a new tab instead of a window, are really cool. I can't wait to see it completed.

Thats always been there you just had to apply it.

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Originally Posted by Mike

Not gonna lie, I've lost all bladder control.
But on a serious note, I hope they've fixed the memory leak problem. I don't like 30% of my memory being devoted to a browser.

Me either. Notice, Firefox isn't even on the task bar ... (Sorry it's large..I'm lazy)

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Wohoo, first to vote for Opera!

I'm my experience and on my laptop I've experienced quicker load times with Opera. Plus, I generally just like the features more than FireFox.

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I second that Opera vote. Clark and I probably make up that 1.8%

Anyway, Opera 9 already has most of those features built in. Not to mention widgets and Bit-torrent support.
I use the spell check in Opera all the time.

So, why doesn't Opera get all the hype?

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Originally Posted by Ogre

I've never liked opera. The plugin base for Firefox is both comical and amazing. Nowhere else can I get a Litany of Fear plugin for a web browser. Many linux packages come default with Firefox, not all do, but many do.

I guess it's the feel of the software. While Opera is now freeware and no doubt great software, for a long time, it was merely shareware, a status that alienated alot of users. Firefox was the first software to be built to break the Microsoft monopoly and has that rebellious GNU feel to it, the one that says "I was created by people who are working to benefit users over making a quick buck".

As far as software goes, it's clear Opera is a better performer. However, I would gladly sacrifice 1 second or so difference it takes to load both for the comical userbase of Firefox.

That's my .02

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Actually, Firefox, although I haven't tried out Opera in quite a while.

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I'm an Opera guy but I use Firefox more. I just haven't had the chance to put Opera on my new computer yet.

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I have used Firefox now for about a year. I used IE6 out of habit, but had Firefox installed and would use it on occasion. When the IE7 beta came out, I installed it to see what it was like. I used it for about 15 minutes and it pushed me over the edge and I promptly switched all of my shortcuts and settings to go to Firefox. IE7 has the tabs, but it just doesn't feel right compared to FF.
Eric

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opera is preatty good to though...i think it makes better use of tabs...maybe not

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Although I prefer Firefox (primarily for all the custom plugins I use), I have no problems with using Opera. As long as it isn't Internet Exploder, or any other IE-based browser, I'll use it. IE7 is slightly better previous versions, but it's still lightyears behind Firefox or Opera.

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Originally Posted by artdutra04

IE7 is slightly better previous versions, but it's still lightyears behind Firefox or Opera.

On the other side of the argument, I don't really see IE using over 100MB of memory like my Firefox does. Firefox really needs to fix the memory leaks. There is no reason a couple browsing tabs should be using up over 100mb of memory.

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Only one too post For Safari lol. I love safari! when ever I use a PC I still would only use firefox if I had the choice

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Originally Posted by thegathering

... Firefox was the first software to be built to break the Microsoft monopoly and has that rebellious GNU feel to it, the one that says "I was created by people who are working to benefit users over making a quick buck".

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Mozilla (Firefox included) is under the MPL (Mozilla Public License) and has nothing to do with GNU. I don't see how GNU has a rebellious feel to it, since they don't compete with Microsoft in any shape or way. GNU has no OS (Linux does not count, trust me), and is no direct threat. The only reason it could be seen as rebellious is because all of the software they create is open source under the GPL license, but even back in the olden days stuff like UNIX was open source so that people could comment on it and add changes. Hence the Berkeley System Distribution.

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Originally Posted by artdutra04

IE 7 with regards to plugins and whatnot might be light years behind, but at least they have fixed their rendering issues. Since they have fixed their rendering issues the box hack has stopped working for their browser as well, so it will be more standards compliant.

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Originally Posted by Joohoo

Only one too post For Safari lol. I love safari! when ever I use a PC I still would only use firefox if I had the choice

I have an iBook and I use Safari as well. The only browser I like to use. I only use Gecko based browsers when I have to check if a design/layout looks good in them.

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Originally Posted by X-Istence

Have they? I was using the IE7 beta before my Firefox revelation. (Beta 2, I believe.) It rendered woefully slowly. It loaded pages slower than IE6 and Firefox. I fell in love with tabbed browsing. If I hadn't, I would have gone right back to IE6, which in my opinion was a faster and less resource intensive/buggy program. (Of course I know that IE7 was in beta and had some kinks to be worked out.)
I held out against the FF onslaught for a long time. I was the last of my friends to get it. Now that I have it, I don't love it for the plug-ins or ad ons, or 3rd party content. I love it because without all of that it has a remarkably clean UI and a better Google toolbar.

On another note, why in the world would anyone still use a text-based browser? The only reason I can see not to get one of the numerous free browsers currently out there would be the lack of an Internet connection, but if you need a browser, you obviously have Internet access.
I just wish that people would upgrade their old browsers so that Internet standards and technology can move forward, instead of being tied down backwards-compatibility. (Netscape 4+CSS=grr)

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Originally Posted by 11Ed71

I just wish that people would upgrade their old browsers so that Internet standards and technology can move forward, instead of being tied down backwards-compatibility. (Netscape 4+CSS=grr)

Agreed. But then again, you wouldn't believe some of the machines people are still running. Netscape 4 may be the best they can run :rolleyes: lol who still uses Netscape anyway...

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Originally Posted by 11Ed71

On another note, why in the world would anyone still use a text-based browser? The only reason I can see not to get one of the numerous free browsers currently out there would be the lack of an Internet connection, but if you need a browser, you obviously have Internet access.
I just wish that people would upgrade their old browsers so that Internet standards and technology can move forward, instead of being tied down backwards-compatibility. (Netscape 4+CSS=grr)

All of the decent text-based browsers do a wonderful job displaying standards compliant XHTML/CSS. So since all of your pages are coded standards-compliantly (right? :D ), these text-based browsers will display them perfectly, albeit without any images, but then again that isn't a problem because you're Section 508 compliant too.

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Originally Posted by X-Istence

I Know it's not part of GNU. The GNU software directory provides emulations of many of Microsoft's products for Linux, providing an alternative to Windows with the same functionality.

In the same way, Firefox, being both open source and free, was a direct response to the problems of IE developed under the Microsoft monopoly.

Regardless of licenses, they have the same purpose, which is why Firefox still has the same feel and purpose as GNU created software (BSD for Windows and things not Unix). ;)

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Originally Posted by Greg Marra

My issue with standards isn't really with text-based browsers, that was sort of a side-track. If someone's using a text-based browser and it complies with XHTML/CSS2, then that's fine with me. I just don't know why anyone would.
My bigger problem is people who use out-dated software, holding back web developers who want to use fairly mainstream CSS formatting code and feel bad about the 23 and a half remaining Netscape 4 users. I also wish there were some hard-line javascript standards, but something tells me that isn't in the near future.
Does anyone know if FF2 will have CSS3 support? IE6's current version and IE7 support CSS3 and it has some interesting features. Once Firefox is on the CSS3 bandwagon, it will probably make the jump to mainstream more quickly. *hopes*