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Koko Ed 10-09-2006 09:06

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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Do you ever think that the Championships will be brought to Canada?

No.
There are issues with teams crossign the border. Some school districts restict it or teams like ours which have alot of foreign nationals and it'll be such a huge hassel getting across that they won't go. Toronto would be great but I don't think it'll happen.

Beth Sweet 10-09-2006 09:36

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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Do you ever think that the Championships will be brought to Canada?

I think it would be wonderful and really reinforce the idea that this is an international competition (sometimes, I really feel like those international teams are overlooked). That being said, realistically, they need to stay somewhere where it will be the most convenient for the majority, that being the states. As Ed said, passports (depending on border crossing laws) being $80ish in themselves, are really going to hike up the price and limit how many teams/students are able to participate.

JohnBoucher 10-09-2006 09:41

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All teams attending a Canadian event would need to rework their crates.

I am interested in hearing from Canadian teams on how this impacted them.

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On February 1, 2006, the U.S., Canada and Mexico will begin to enforce the treatment and marking requirements for wood pallets and crates. Except for certain wood packing material (WPM) moving between the U.S. and Canada only, the three NAFTA partners will refuse admission to pallets and crates that do not bear approved marks indicating they have been heat-treated or fumigated to eliminate injurious plant pests.

Jonathan Norris 10-09-2006 09:51

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Originally Posted by JohnBoucher
All teams attending a Canadian event would need to rework their crates.

I am interested in hearing from Canadian teams on how this impacted them.

This really didn't affect us much last year, the only difference is that when we went down to Depot to get our wood we had to make sure it was the proper kind. I think that most Canadian wood passes this regulation, so almost all of the wood at Depot was totally fine to use. We were worried about it at the beginning of season, but really turned out to be a non-issue for us.

Goober!!! 10-09-2006 10:18

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Does anyone else disagree with Boilermaker and Midwest Regionals during the same week???

Jessica Boucher 10-09-2006 11:10

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Originally Posted by Goober!!!
Does anyone else disagree with Boilermaker and Midwest Regionals during the same week???

This is normal, and necessary. If you dig through the archives on Chief as well as usfirst.org, this has happened not only in the midwest, but in other areas of the country as well. Most likely, this is a venue problem.

Alex Golec 10-09-2006 12:48

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Originally Posted by Goober!!!
Does anyone else disagree with Boilermaker and Midwest Regionals during the same week???

Yes, its not the best of planning (as was having both NYC regionals in the same weekend last year), but with 37 regionals in 5 weeks, it is expected that some regionals could coincide with each other. Also, they have to book these events for whatever times they can in those 5 weeks, so its not always under their control.

That being said, has anyone noticed the extremely conservative team space estimation for the regionals? I understand they reserve roughly 10% extra space per regional for rookies, teams not yet attending a regional, and NASA grant winners, but two of their estimations are below the usual quota for full elimination (24): Detroit (23) & Waterloo(22), and some others are in the upper 20's.
My opinion is that they are being really conservative with their numbers. :rolleyes:
Might it possibly be a mind-game :eek: to cause more teams to register for those regionals first?

There's a decent spread availible, I can't wait until the actual registration begins!

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and so it goes... :D

_Alex

Richard Wallace 10-09-2006 12:51

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Originally Posted by Beth Sweet
... As Ed said, passports (depending on border crossing laws) being $80ish in themselves, are really going to hike up the price and limit how many teams/students are able to participate.

931 went to Waterloo this year, and it was a blast! A well-run event with many strong teams and wonderful people.

The passport issue factored into our decision to go in 2006. We found out that the new regulations (requiring passports for everyone returning to the US from Canada) would be going into effect over the next couple of years, so this might have been our last chance to go under the old rules. Most of our team doesn't routinely travel outside the US (imagine that!) so as Beth points out, passport costs would have been an important consideration.

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Originally Posted by John Boucher
All teams attending a Canadian event would need to rework their crates.

Yeah, we had to build a new crate to comply with the material restrictions. It was time to upgrade the old crate anyway.

Lil' Lavery 10-09-2006 17:00

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Originally Posted by coreyk
Atlanta’s venue was fairly adequate, but no where near ideal. First, after-competition activities are limited (there is only so many times one can visit the Coca-Cola Factory). Second, The Georiga Dome is updated but huge, teams are divided among the dome, pits, and possibly HOF booth with the endless travel distance in-between. Third, The area around the dome is reasonably safe – but traveling any further than those areas is risky.

This is my opinion - but then again, does anyone disagree?

I agree that those are not ideal condiditions, but you have to realise, that with a 300+ team event, I doubt there is a location in the world you can find that won't have those issues. There are just as many attraction in Atlanta than anywhere else (there are only so many times Disney World is fun for example too). There is both a Dave & Busters and Jillians in the greater Atlanta area if you're willing to drive a bit further (The Peachtree Regional has their team social at Jillian's). There is also an ESPNZone in Atlanta. The Varsity Grill is a great place to have dinner one night, good food, fun atmosphere (although might not be vegetarian friendly). CNN HQ has a tours and is a fairly fun stop (and has a large food court and is connected to the Omni Hotel). Just look around a bit more and you'll find it a great city! (I've been there 3 times in the last 3 years, and I still find something new each time I go).


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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
Do you ever think that the Championships will be brought to Canada?

No. The competition started as USFIRST, and the focus is still on improving America's standing in the world technilogical economy. Even though it is an international competition now, the focus is on the United States, and will most likely remain there for a very long time. Additionally, there are many factors dealing with the crossing and shipping across the border, and many U.S. school districts not allowing it.


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Originally Posted by Alex469
That being said, has anyone noticed the extremely conservative team space estimation for the regionals? I understand they reserve roughly 10% extra space per regional for rookies, teams not yet attending a regional, and NASA grant winners, but two of their estimations are below the usual quota for full elimination (24): Detroit (23) & Waterloo(22), and some others are in the upper 20's.
My opinion is that they are being really conservative with their numbers. :rolleyes:
Might it possibly be a mind-game :eek: to cause more teams to register for those regionals first?

I think some of the values actually are incorrect, not just the rookie/late registration spots being held. Although, if FIRST knows a large amount of rookies teams are being founded in that area, they might hold additional spots for rookies.

OZ_341 10-09-2006 21:44

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery
I agree that those are not ideal condiditions, but you have to realise, that with a 300+ team event, I doubt there is a location in the world you can find that won't have those issues. There are just as many attraction in Atlanta than anywhere else (there are only so many times Disney World is fun for example too). .........

It would help if FIRST would talk to some of these Atlanta entertainment venues about extending their hours during the Championship. There was no practical time that a FIRST Team could get to the Aquarium before 5 PM on Thursday or Friday. Many other attractions that we looked into also closed at 5 PM.
The only thing I would have to disagree with is that, I would LOVE to go back to Disney permanently. Atlanta has been fine, but Disney made the whole Championship feel "Magical". It was also easier for FIRST to get celebrities to "drop by" for a visit.
But in the end, I will go anywhere that there are FIRST people and Robots. :D

coreyk 10-09-2006 22:44

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In response to OZ_341's previous post

I agree.

wendymom 11-09-2006 00:20

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Disney World is not all of Orlando, it would be possible to have the competition at the convention center (one of the biggest in the country) and still have the "magical feeling". We would have enough room to be inside and in air conditioning. All the attractions are close by and if you are tired of Disney try Universal or Sea World. There is every imaginable restaraunt within a 10 mile radius and more hotel rooms than we would need.

Let bring it back to Fla.

AdamHeard 11-09-2006 00:46

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Does anyone know when the dates will be finalized.

Wetzel 11-09-2006 09:32

Re: 2007 FRC Regional Event Dates Announced
 
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Originally Posted by OZ_341
It would help if FIRST would talk to some of these Atlanta entertainment venues about extending their hours during the Championship. There was no practical time that a FIRST Team could get to the Aquarium before 5 PM on Thursday or Friday. Many other attractions that we looked into also closed at 5 PM.

I agree. Even if only 15 teams went, that would be ~300. I would hazard a guess that some of these places downtown would schedule staff to stay open later for a few hundred people.

Wetzel

Billfred 11-09-2006 11:04

Re: 2007 FRC Regional Event Dates Announced
 
I think the current set of dates has some weight to it now--FIRST is linking to it from the FRC home page, and it's apparently now what you get when you click Regional Events. I can only assume they wouldn't link to something that wasn't at least mildly official.

I still won't be buying my train tickets just yet, though.


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