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[527]phil 16-09-2006 14:27

Angled holes?
 
Hello everyone. I'm trying to make a hole at a 45 degree angle from a surface, but i can't seem to figure out who to do it. the only way i was able to do it was to make a surface at the angle i wanted, then i drilled the hole through it, but then i couldn't delete the surface and keep the hole. Anyone know how?

i_am_Doug 16-09-2006 14:36

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Originally Posted by [527]phil
but then i couldn't delete the surface and keep the hole. Anyone know how?

Umm, im not sure i know what your talking about..but if your useing a drill press you can tilt the platform that your piece of work is on...

~Doug

JamesBrown 16-09-2006 14:38

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Originally Posted by i_am_Doug
Umm, im not sure i know what your talking about..but if your useing a drill press you can tilt the platform that your piece of work is on...

~Doug

The post is in the inventor forum, I am pretty sure he wants to do it in inventor, not in real life (yet).

Madison 16-09-2006 14:48

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Originally Posted by [527]phil
Hello everyone. I'm trying to make a hole at a 45 degree angle from a surface, but i can't seem to figure out who to do it. the only way i was able to do it was to make a surface at the angle i wanted, then i drilled the hole through it, but then i couldn't delete the surface and keep the hole. Anyone know how?

You should be able to create a new work plane that is offset 45* from the surface the hole enters into (assuming it's flat) and then create a new sketch on that plane for the hole.

Tristan Lall 16-09-2006 14:53

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I don't have Inventor in front of me now, but what about creating a work plane at an angle to the existing surface? Then sketch the outline of the hole in the workplane and create a feature, setting the depth to whatever you need (through to reverse side). To be honest, I don't remember if Inventor will let you create a solid material removal feature (i.e. hole or cut) from a workplane in space, but it's worth a shot.

Also, since you may want to actually build the thing later, be aware that it is tricky to drill an angled hole. You'd either need a drill guide (some hard material which already has the desired angled hole), or a very stiff machine, like a milling machine and a short, inflexible bit or end mill. Even if you tilt the table of a drill press, the bit will usually walk off and make a mess.

Philip W. 16-09-2006 20:00

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Originally Posted by M. Krass
You should be able to create a new work plane that is offset 45* from the surface the hole enters into (assuming its flat) and then create a new sketch on that plane for the hole.

Creating the angled workplane would be the correct choice, but actually doing it is tricky. I'm using Inventor 9 and don't know if there's another solution for other versions. Anyway, an angled workplane must be created based on two references: an axis that it will rotate upon and a surface that the inputted angle will be based on.

Your axis is already there if your hole is on the edge of an object, otherwise, you'll have to create your own axis. You can create a line in a sketch, a work axis by two points, or a work axis by a point and a surface (it will be perpendicular to the surface and pass through the point). The surface should be easy to find.

If your hole is on the corner of an object, I would have to call you crazy, but it can be done. Ask if you need more help to do that.

SgtMillhouse648 17-09-2006 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [527]phil
Hello everyone. I'm trying to make a hole at a 45 degree angle from a surface, but i can't seem to figure out who to do it. the only way i was able to do it was to make a surface at the angle i wanted, then i drilled the hole through it, but then i couldn't delete the surface and keep the hole. Anyone know how?

if you want to delete the surface, don't "delete" it, but right click the feature on the explorer thingy window, and supress the feature. the feature won't show up, but you will still keep the hole
good luck
malhon

Tristan Lall 17-09-2006 19:56

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Originally Posted by SgtMillhouse648
if you want to delete the surface, don't "delete" it, but right click the feature on the explorer thingy window, and supress the feature. the feature won't show up, but you will still keep the hole

Don't suppress it, hide it instead (visibility off). If the program is working correctly, suppressing the feature will suppress all dependent features (e.g. the hole you want to keep). Hiding it just makes it invisible.

Elgin Clock 17-09-2006 20:21

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I really should learn Inventor one of these days so I know why people ask questions about simple stuff in Inventor that take no effort at all in SolidWorks.

Then again, why would I want to learn a software that makes the simplest things so complicated... or so it may seem.

Then I'm sure I would constantly curse at the software and always ask the question "Why can't it be more like Software X"?

I've done that in all CAD softwares I have learned, but have been able to adapt pretty well none-the-less.

Ahh.. I'm so torn. :rolleyes:

Al Skierkiewicz 17-09-2006 22:28

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A simple solution in Autocad would be to draw a cylinder of the reguired diameter, longer than needed, rotate in the working plane by 45 degrees, move to the workpiece so that the cylinder sticks through the plane you are "drilling" and then subtract the cylinder from the work piece. I am sure there are easier ways but this one works fairly well.

Henry Anthony 20-09-2006 15:37

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Elgin,

Actually, an angled hole in Inventor takes very little effort, if you know how to do it. It is possible that the original question was asked by someone new to modeling software. In that case, even the simplest operations can be quite difficult. I'm wondering if you could please describe how SW would create this feature more efficiently.

[527]phil 20-09-2006 17:31

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Thanks for all the help guys(and girls). i tried doing the angled work plane but it was pretty complicated and didn't work properly. so then i tried making the feature and suppressing it, worked like a charm. and about making angled holes in real life, i have that under control. CNC milling machine with an A rotary axis FTW.

P.S. I probably should have stated that i wanted to make it in inventor, sorry for the confusion

Elgin Clock 20-09-2006 18:17

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Elgin,

Actually, an angled hole in Inventor takes very little effort, if you know how to do it. It is possible that the original question was asked by someone new to modeling software. In that case, even the simplest operations can be quite difficult. I'm wondering if you could please describe how SW would create this feature more efficiently.

I actually may have misread the original question, so I apologize for being kind of arrogant as far as my comment if that's what it sounded like.

None-the-less, I think they meant one of two ways and I have attached a pic of the 2 instances I have in mind. If the original topic starter would confirm which one they mean, I will be happy to explain it more in depth if needed..

(The only extra thing I did was to slice the parts down the middle to show more clearly the holes I created).

Parts attached made in SolidWorks btw.

i_am_Doug 20-09-2006 19:54

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Originally Posted by JamesBrown
The post is in the inventor forum, I am pretty sure he wants to do it in inventor, not in real life (yet).

Oh, right then.
I had thought I clicked Tech...
Is Inventor like Auto cad?

Andy A. 20-09-2006 22:10

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Creating an angled workplane in Inventor, version 10 at least, is actually very easy.

In the image I've posted below, I created an extruded block. To create the angled workplane, I first selected a face, the 'top' and then one of the edges. Inventor then prompted me to enter the relative angle of the proposed workplane. I arbitrarily used 32 degrees.

I the created a sketch on the workplane, and placed a point center by eye. Then, using the hole command, I placed a plain hole through the part using the 'through all' terminator.

I eyeballed the placement of this hole. You could constrain the placement relative to other geometry a few ways though. The nice thing about this, and any method that uses a feature, over using a boolean subtraction, as Al suggested he might do in AutoCAD, is that this feature remains adaptive and can be later changed. Changing a solid model in AutoCAD is just a pain in comparison.

You could also form a hole that follows a work axis between two workpoints, although getting a fully formed hole is a little tricky. I can go off on that if someone wants me to, but I am guessing that the angled workplane is probably adequate for what the OP was looking for.



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