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BoyWithCape195 09-03-2007 21:37

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by Winged Wonder (Post 594008)
On another note, whats up with the ref sometimes removing a keeper from a robot and sometimes not? In one match we got the keeper hung up on the flag from our robot after autonomous period had ended... I thought they had to remove it at the end of autonomous, because I had seen that at a webcast from last week. But I didn't see it happen at UCF so I figured the rule had changed... but no, because a few hours later, I saw a ref run onto the field after autonomous and remove a keeper from a robot. I'm not yelling at the refs or anything... I'd just like to know what's up?

From what I have seen, the keeper is only removed from a robot when it could easily be scored without the team wanting to deliberately score it. For example, if a robot is holding a keeper directly above a spider leg but never let go during the auto mode, the refs will remove it. The reason for this is, if the keeper falls onto a spider leg after the auto mode is complete, the way the match is played and the outcome could be drastically different.

Kit Gerhart 09-03-2007 21:53

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by akshar (Post 593918)
the match i saw,right after lunch, 233 was pretty much shut down by 744, they were able to get one or two ringers on i think, and then were simply pushed around

We are changing the tires on our center wheels which should give us more traction. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. I think we are up against Team 744 two more times.

Jonathan Norris 09-03-2007 22:19

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195 (Post 594041)
From what I have seen, the keeper is only removed from a robot when it could easily be scored without the team wanting to deliberately score it. For example, if a robot is holding a keeper directly above a spider leg but never let go during the auto mode, the refs will remove it. The reason for this is, if the keeper falls onto a spider leg after the auto mode is complete, the way the match is played and the outcome could be drastically different.

At BAE the head ref removed the keeper every time, just look at the first match (where he kinda destroyed a keeper :p). I agree that consistency would be nice sometimes.

Nawaid Ladak 09-03-2007 23:48

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
most teams were either not ready or procrastinated to do them the morning of (today) and it was crazy

idk what was up with pink, but i think alot of the teams falling into that area the 2-4's 1-5's 1-4's, 2-3's, all got alot of talking to do.

(how does 233 have 8 matches, if they are 1-5, and someone stated above, that they got two more matches, this =8 there are 68 Qualification matches, so with 51 teams (each team would go around twice every 17 matches). so yes, that does =8, but my team only has 7 matches as far as what i saw on the page,)

if this is correct, my current team that im mentoring can end up 4-4. kool

like i said, alot of the teams had trouble inspecting, therefore most of the morning matches were empty, and thats why the standings are deceiving. so for those teams that are making their alliance lists tonight, wait till tomorrow and you guys will see alot of more talent (or at least i hope).

btw speaking of inspections, the match 1694 was up with 1062 and 179, i think match 48, the inspector apparently forgot to sign the paper and give it to the ref. therefore we couldn't play that match, which we could have won by 179 climbing up our ramp...

...is there going on with the volunteering, Barry, someone answer me please,

(btw, for those of you who wern't there afterwards, Barry got his hair dyed orange, thanks to team 1902)

Barry Bonzack 10-03-2007 00:51

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by KatiePendock (Post 593896)
Wow, that was fun to watch the competition today on the webcast! Which bot had it's arm taken out? I missed the number of it...:ahh:

Looking great everyone! Tomorrow's gonna be awesome, and I think I'll actually wake up before noon because FIRST is just that exciting! ^_^

That was 1889 and 1390 getting tangled up together. 1390 was playing counter defense against 1889's advances on team 69. 1889 did have a ringer in possession. 1889's arm got caught in 1390's forklift, the robots tried to untangle themselves, and 1889 fell over snapping their arm off in the process. 1390 had to get rid of the 1889's blue ringer still attached to 1889's arm before climbing up 69's ramp.

It was a close call, I think a penalty could have gone either way. It was definitely not intentional to tip, nor break off 1889's arm. The 1390 students immediately asked 1889 if there was anything we could do to help repair the arm, but they said it was an easy fix and not to worry about it.

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 05:23

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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We are changing the tires on our center wheels which should give us more traction. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. I think we are up against Team 744 two more times.
I know the match list is generated randomly, but how is it that we'll be against 744 for a total of 4 times? Twice yesterday and twice today? I don't think we're the only ones either; there seem to be alot of repetitive matches.

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 05:29

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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like i said, alot of the teams had trouble inspecting, therefore most of the morning matches were empty, and thats why the standings are deceiving. so for those teams that are making their alliance lists tonight, wait till tomorrow and you guys will see alot of more talent (or at least i hope).
I've been into this for one year, but also I noticed that this year's regional has a lot more no shows than last year. And I don't think rankings always mean anything anyway because it usually conflicts with scouting data....

Also, there are way more penalties this year. Like every other match has a penalty on at least one side. Is this unusual as compared to last year or did I just not notice last year?

Duke_of_Hazard 10-03-2007 05:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by IdyllsOfLife (Post 594154)
I've been into this for one year, but also I noticed that this year's regional has a lot more no shows than last year. And I don't think rankings always mean anything anyway because it usually conflicts with scouting data....

Also, there are way more penalties this year. Like every other match has a penalty on at least one side. Is this unusual as compared to last year or did I just not notice last year?

yes, there are more penalties this year, but theres much more possibility this year for them as well.

PS- GET TO THE BUS!

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 07:08

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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yes, there are more penalties this year, but theres much more possibility this year for them as well.

PS- GET TO THE BUS!
Ohoho, I'm posting this from the bus with my wireless aircard. Yes, that's burnage for you.

slickguy2007 10-03-2007 11:32

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
The Alliances:

1. 69, 56, 1029
2. 1902, 179, 108
3. 1027, 79, 342
4. 1251, 1270, 86
5. 801, 1523, 744
6. 180, 233, 1889
7. 1592, 312, 157
8. 1557, 1543, 1065

Enjoy.

Joe Matt 10-03-2007 11:33

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Thanks Aaroon.

Good to see Tatsu up there, sad not to see the Knights though. :(

nuggetsyl 10-03-2007 11:36

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
i am picking allince 2 and 3 to meet in the semi finals

Tom Bottiglieri 10-03-2007 11:37

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Alliance 2 looks good.

What is this quarantine stuff?

nuggetsyl 10-03-2007 11:39

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by slickguy2007 (Post 594201)
The Alliances:

1. 69, 56, 1029
2. 1902, 179, 108
3. 1027, 79, 342
4. 1251, 1270, 86
5. 801, 1523, 744
6. 180, 233, 1889
7. 1592, 312, 157
8. 1557, 1543, 1065

Enjoy.

1-8 1 wins
2-7 2 wins
3-6 3 wins
4-5 4 wins
1-4 4 wins
2-3 2 wins tough to call this one
2-4 2 wins

KatiePendock 10-03-2007 11:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
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Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 594138)
That was 1889 and 1390 getting tangled up together. 1390 was playing counter defense against 1889's advances on team 69. 1889 did have a ringer in possession. 1889's arm got caught in 1390's forklift, the robots tried to untangle themselves, and 1889 fell over snapping their arm off in the process. 1390 had to get rid of the 1889's blue ringer still attached to 1889's arm before climbing up 69's ramp.

It was a close call, I think a penalty could have gone either way. It was definitely not intentional to tip, nor break off 1889's arm. The 1390 students immediately asked 1889 if there was anything we could do to help repair the arm, but they said it was an easy fix and not to worry about it.


Good thing that it was a fairly easy fix!

The alliances are shaping up quite nicely...can't wait for 1pm!

Quarantine? That sounds new... So now no fixing/tweaking a bot during lunch?


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