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MattLi 04-03-2007 19:02

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 589886)

Some of us don't live in Florida. Some of us are getting our toes frozen off in Michigan. :p

i like dirt 08-03-2007 00:01

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I cant wait for this regional to start! Only 9 hours till gates open, ill try to sleep, but i probably wont. Then again, Sleep Depravation and FIRST go hand in hand.:eek:

techtiger1 08-03-2007 07:03

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
7:00 am and it's a beautiful day out so far team 1251 is ready to rack and roll. Can't wait to see everyone at the Florida regional, it should be a good one.

Good luck,
Drew Dizzle !

Brandon Holley 08-03-2007 13:11

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
wow, i just watched 233, and I am very impressed with their robot (not like I wasn't before). They are putting up 6-8 tubes around teh whole rack (top, middle, bottom rows).


Also, the team with the spine arm....that thing looks AWESOME, I cant wait to see it actually function.

Madison 08-03-2007 13:27

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 593264)
wow, i just watched 233, and I am very impressed with their robot (not like I wasn't before). They are putting up 6-8 tubes around teh whole rack (top, middle, bottom rows).


Also, the team with the spine arm....that thing looks AWESOME, I cant wait to see it actually function.

I'm impressed that you're able to see anything. This is the tiniest webcast I've ever run across and I can't make out anything of note.

akshar 08-03-2007 13:31

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics...regional-2007/

there is a link next to the small feed and you can open it in WMP or realplayer and get a bigger size.

Luckyfish05 08-03-2007 13:41

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Krass (Post 593273)
I'm impressed that you're able to see anything. This is the tiniest webcast I've ever run across and I can't make out anything of note.

At least it's right side up, I got the reflector I think and have audio and an upside down picture! Oh well, it's only practice day :).

Tom Bottiglieri 08-03-2007 13:48

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
The announcers need to learn what things are called. The foot?

Kevin Thorp 08-03-2007 13:52

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Are the match starting times posted anywhere online?

KatiePendock 08-03-2007 15:25

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin342 (Post 593283)
Are the match starting times posted anywhere online?

A good question. I haven't found them yet...but if you do, please post a link or something!

I'm a little saddened by the webcast. Right when 245 came on the field it blurred horribly. At least the sound's good : ) I'm using WMP. Can't really read the info at the bottom consistently either. Hope it's better tomorrow!

Bomberofdoom 08-03-2007 16:13

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Good luck Florida teams! I've seen some of you playing the practices, I've seen very interesting tactics. Autonomous was nice in some cases(which usually the rest where doing nothing). I already found a fav' bot, the one with the 180 arm that can do 90 degree pinch twist with an autonomous times that setes their arm towards the human player, can't remember the team number.:o

I'll be watching you guys in the seeding and tournament. :cool:

Oh, and the quality is much better than the VCU one's, thanks allot for the comfertness!:D
Good luck!:)


One more thing, how do they show online? I was hoping there could be a way we could try to show our regionals too.

Justin 08-03-2007 16:22

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Hi Everyone,

Watching the practices. Question, the site (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics...regional-2007/) references RealPlayer but I can't find any sign of a Real based stream is there one or is there just the Windows Media? Perhaps there will be a real stream tomorrow?

Thanks...Good luck to all the New England teams representing down in sunny Florida!!!,

Justin

Vince lau 08-03-2007 16:46

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
i just saw a human player score a ringer on the opposide side of the rack. anybody get that on video?
it was team 108, 408, 1543 vs 157,1027, 2152

Nawaid Ladak 08-03-2007 19:49

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 593339)
i just saw a human player score a ringer on the opposite side of the rack. anybody get that on video?
it was team 108, 408, 1543 vs 157,1027, 2152

I was there, team 108's human player scored that,

btw, my $0.02
The competition in florida is WEAK, with the exception to 56,179,233,79 and 1902

othing else really impressed me besides 1889's defensive tactics, i say forget taht arm and play defense like that every match, and you might find yourselfs in the elimination rounds

ducttapedude 08-03-2007 19:57

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreedomForce (Post 593442)
I was there, team 108's human player scored that,

btw, my $0.02
The competition in florida is WEAK, with the exception to 56,179,233,79 and 1902

othing else really impressed me besides 1889's defensive tactics, i say forget taht arm and play defense like that every match, and you might find yourselfs in the elimination rounds

Dude...its practice day, half the robots werent on the field, I wouldn't be too quick to judge how this competition is gonna go

Kristian Calhoun 08-03-2007 19:59

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreedomForce (Post 593442)
I was there, team 108's human player scored that,

btw, my $0.02
The competition in florida is WEAK, with the exception to 56,179,233,79 and 1902

othing else really impressed me besides 1889's defensive tactics, i say forget taht arm and play defense like that every match, and you might find yourselfs in the elimination rounds

I tuned into the webcast at around 3:30, and caught the last hour and a half of it. I did get to see teams 179, 79, and 1902 play, but I was also impressed by team 1065. In both rounds of their last practice match, the two robots on their alliance (1902 and 386 if I recall correctly) were able to climb their ramps. Team 386 was also able to score in autonomous during the last practice match.

IdyllsOfLife 08-03-2007 20:25

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Anybody know where I can get archives of the video BEFORE the regional ends?

KatiePendock 08-03-2007 20:46

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Good luck tomorrow everyone! I'll be watching the webcast once I'm out of class....so be awesome!

wsansewjs 08-03-2007 21:16

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
LOL Use the SOAP!

-Josh S.

Darkforces 08-03-2007 22:11

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Hey I'm from the team with the spine arm. Tonight during inspection the tip of our arm snapped.:ahh: We have two extra rods so it isn't that big of a deal but now or mechanical guys are going to be focused on that all morning and i was just curious if any teams could lend us a hand so we can get the manipulator that goes on the arm working. I understand that everyones going to be very busy tomorrow morning but if you have anyone you can spare for the morning we would greatly appreciate it. Oh and another update about our robot or programmer finished the drivercentric program tonight so hopefully it works tomorrow.:D

swamp_child 08-03-2007 22:14

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I'll try to help, we dont have a lot of mechanical stuff to do, and i don't code.

Gabe Salas Jr. 09-03-2007 00:27

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 593282)
The announcers need to learn what things are called. The foot?

At practice today, it was either Arefin Bari, Dan Richardson, or Barry Bonzack.

I bet it was Arefin. :p

Gabe Salas Jr. 09-03-2007 00:31

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bomberofdoom (Post 593322)
I already found a fav' bot, the one with the 180 arm that can do 90 degree pinch twist with an autonomous times that setes their arm towards the human player, can't remember the team number.:o

I believe that was 1592 the Bionic Tigers.

Barry Bonzack 09-03-2007 02:20

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 593282)
The announcers need to learn what things are called. The foot?

From 6.2.2 of The Arena section

Quote:

The end of the leg has a retaining plate, known as the SPIDER FOOT, made of a 10-inch diameter disk of diamond plate aluminum. The SPIDER FOOT prevents GAME PIECES from falling off once they are placed on the SPIDER LEG.

Calling the matches today was a fun experience. I'm impressed with the performance of many of the robots that came to compete for practice matches.

BoyWithCape195 09-03-2007 10:01

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Is anyone having alot of trouble with the webcast?

Bharat Nain 09-03-2007 10:09

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
It cuts out sometimes but its ok now.

Can someone post a picture of the match list? Please please pleaseeee i'll give you positive rep :p

dez250 09-03-2007 10:12

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Yes i couldnt get it to play for more than 3-5 seconds on my laptop. After those issues, i opted to open the webcast in WMP on my desktop directly through the Link and it has seemed to work nice since then.

Mark Jones 09-03-2007 10:31

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Why are there so many no shows at UCF? 233 did not make a practice nor there first qualification match. Robot inspection too tough?

Brandon Holley 09-03-2007 10:35

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
whats going on down there...every other match is a 3 on 1??

Nuttyman54 09-03-2007 10:48

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
why are the refs using tape measures before the matches? haven't the robots been inspected?

Bharat Nain 09-03-2007 10:58

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 593773)
whats going on down there...every other match is a 3 on 1??

That's what I was wondering. I think the robot inspections are very very strict at UCF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 593780)
why are the refs using tape measures before the matches? haven't the robots been inspected?

Sometimes the robots were not completely within their starting dimensions. In other regionals, they let it go because normally there is no advantage and they are pretty close in their starting dimensions. Actually, I think most robots usually are.

nuggetsyl 09-03-2007 10:58

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
In match 13 i saw a row of 6 that should have not counted. At least in nj if there was a tube under another tube hanging on the bottem row it did not count.

Rob 09-03-2007 11:04

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
At BAE ringers that had another on the floor under them were counted. In my opinion, that is the correct way to score these, otherwise you can get free spoilers just by pushing any tube on the floor under ones scored on the bottom row.

Keep in mind this is my opinion based on observations, I do not have the rules in front of me right now.

This is certainly something that should be asked about during the The drivers meeting with the refs.

Good luck

RAZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 593786)
In match 13 i saw a row of 6 that should have not counted. At least in nj if there was a tube under another tube hanging on the bottem row it did not count.


Bharat Nain 09-03-2007 11:12

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 593788)
At BAE ringers that had another on the floor under them were counted. In my opinion, that is the correct way to score these, otherwise you can get free spoilers just by pushing any tube on the floor under ones scored on the bottom row.

Keep in mind this is my opinion based on observations, I do not have the rules in front of me right now.

This is certainly something that should be asked about during the The drivers meeting with the refs.

Good luck

RAZ

Quote:

HANGING: a GAME PIECE is considered HANGING if its’ weight is fully supported by a SPIDER
LEG and it has been released by the POSSESSING ROBOT. A GAME PIECE is not considered
HANGING if it is supported by the SPIDER FOOT
Technically, it cannot be considered to be HANGING and therefore it should not count.

Vince lau 09-03-2007 11:12

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
anybody know whats wrong with 233 robot? and why it hasn't come out yet

soap108 09-03-2007 11:16

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
anyone know why we dont have scores / rankings on the first site?

at least we have the webcast.

BillyGoats 09-03-2007 11:18

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 593793)
anybody know whats wrong with 233 robot? and why it hasn't come out yet

Rumor has it they can't get there arm working. :confused:

TD78 09-03-2007 11:19

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bharat Nain (Post 593791)
Technically, it cannot be considered to be HANGING and therefore it should not count.

True...

Does seem a little ridiculous though...a team can score a ringer, but then have it disallowed because another tube was pushed up against it, even though clearly it had been scored? Is so, I hope teams figure out that there are still two other rows to score on. :)

Bharat Nain 09-03-2007 11:23

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RollinTDollin (Post 593799)
True...

Does seem a little ridiculous though...a team can score a ringer, but then have it disallowed because another tube was pushed up against it, even though clearly it had been scored? Is so, I hope teams figure out that there are still two other rows to score on. :)

It does. I posted this in Q&A. We shall wait for a response.

Brandon Holley 09-03-2007 11:35

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bharat Nain (Post 593801)
It does. I posted this in Q&A. We shall wait for a response.

At NJ, Sky would kick out the tube that was underneath that tube...if it still hung, it counted

Richard Wallace 09-03-2007 11:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soap108 (Post 593797)
anyone know why we dont have scores / rankings on the first site?

at least we have the webcast.

Scoring on the FIRST site for Wisconsin and Pittsburgh, but not for Florida, FLR, Bayou, Great Lakes, or the west coast events (AZ and LA, where it is still too early.). Don't know why. I'm pretty sure we had STL results up right from the beginning of Friday last week. I'm sure they are working on it at all events and results will show up soon.

BoyWithCape195 09-03-2007 11:44

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Team 79 has the best robot/driver combination I have seen this year...$0.02

dez250 09-03-2007 12:08

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 593807)
Scoring on the FIRST site for Wisconsin and Pittsburgh, but not for Florida, FLR, Bayou, Great Lakes, or the west coast events (AZ and LA, where it is still too early.). Don't know why. I'm pretty sure we had STL results up right from the beginning of Friday last week. I'm sure they are working on it at all events and results will show up soon.

Bayou is up too, Roc and Fl may just be a lack of internet connections [to the Field Management System].

Richard Wallace 09-03-2007 12:15

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dez250 (Post 593814)
Bayou is up too, Roc and Fl may just be a lack of internet connections [to the Field Management System].

Interesting.

Right now, I can see standings for Bayou, but not match results.

Probably you are right about the cause; not all venues get good internet connections.

Gertlex 09-03-2007 12:47

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
How unfortunate. I've got the webcast working (becuase there isn't one of GLR :( ) and it's lunch break. I'm taking my laptop to math class and watching there too...

Stupid college classes:mad:

Justin 09-03-2007 13:23

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Looks like a great regional down there in FL. Don't know how the New England teams are doing, no rankings :-( But you guys have a great MC and a blast from the past. Greg Hale who use to MC New England while Woodie was off at the other new regionals like New Jersey, etc. back in 98. Question does Greg still work at Disney?? Just curious.

Thanks,

Justin

Madison 09-03-2007 13:26

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 593844)
Looks like a great regional down there in FL. Don't know how the New England teams are doing, no rankings :-( But you guys have a great MC and a blast from the past. Greg Hale who use to MC New England while Woodie was off at the other new regionals like New Jersey, etc. back in 98. Question does Greg still work at Disney?? Just curious.

Thanks,

Justin

The last I saw, Greg was the Chief Safety Officer of the Walt Disney Co., and was assigned to that position after a series of accidents at the parks led to some bad PR. I'm not sure he still holds that position.

Jonathan Norris 09-03-2007 15:28

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Watching the webcast I have seen a tonn of good ramp bots. This seems to be the regional of the ramp bots :p

At least most of them are the full type of ramp bots (not the slot bots) with alot of space to get up on them.

Kyle 09-03-2007 15:53

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I just got the webcast to work 1902 is looking really good. that was a impressive Congo line you guys had going on there seem like an exciting regional.

Brandon Holley 09-03-2007 16:08

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Wow 79 is a very very impressive machine....i believe they just removed a spoiler! :eek:

Tom Bottiglieri 09-03-2007 16:14

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
79 and 1902 seem to be the power houses. Should be an exciting eliminations.

KatiePendock 09-03-2007 16:28

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Wow, that was fun to watch the competition today on the webcast! Which bot had it's arm taken out? I missed the number of it...:ahh:

Looking great everyone! Tomorrow's gonna be awesome, and I think I'll actually wake up before noon because FIRST is just that exciting! ^_^

Kristian Calhoun 09-03-2007 16:41

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Congrats to the following teams on their award wins! :

1902 - Imagery
56 - Innovation in Control
386 - Creativity
69 - Delphi's Driving Tomorrow's Technology
342 - Entrepreneurship
1270 - Judges' Award
1065 - Website (Way to go Michelle and the rest of the webteam! :))
Warren Boudreaux - WFA

Lil' Lavery 09-03-2007 16:41

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 593892)
79 and 1902 seem to be the power houses. Should be an exciting eliminations.

179 is also doing pretty well from the few matches I've been able to watch. They seem to be able to score 3-4 a match, then get back to deploy their ramps.
1902s biggest advantage is the keepers I think (they have had the most impressive autonomous I've seen at UCF), but they are getting harassed a lot during driver control. When left alone they are brutal.
I think 79 became the first team to remove a spoiler as well.

From what I heard about practice day, 233 seemed impressive when they took the field (granted, this is all second hand knowledge). I missed their matches today though, and they missed several this morning.

PandaMan 09-03-2007 16:49

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
They did go out once today (around 3:00ish), but it looked like they were having some problems with their arm.

BoyWithCape195 09-03-2007 16:49

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I saw pink compete in two matches today. In one of them they scored about 2 to 3 tubes and in the second match I saw a tube got stuck on their flag in auto. and they could not get it off.

akshar 09-03-2007 17:18

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 593904)
From what I heard about practice day, 233 seemed impressive when they took the field (granted, this is all second hand knowledge). I missed their matches today though, and they missed several this morning.

the match i saw,right after lunch, 233 was pretty much shut down by 744, they were able to get one or two ringers on i think, and then were simply pushed around

Ryan Albright 09-03-2007 18:00

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Congratulations to all teams. I was there all day Saturday and I am saw some good robots. Good to see old friends to. Unfortunately being an adult is no fun and I had to work all day and couldn’t see any matches. Its sad to here about 233's robot, they always have a strong robot I hope they can get it working. 79 has an impressive robot, but they always do.

On a different note. The stuff I am hearing about next years regional is really exciting and I can’t wait to start volunteering again.

Good luck to all teams tomorrow hopefully I can stop by after I get off work.
I am the person wearing the "vintage" (as someone put it on Thursday) PAW 710 shirt.

bjimster1 09-03-2007 18:21

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
1 Attachment(s)
This is the transcript of the matches that our scout was able to compile. It has a few matches missing around lunch and it dosn't have the first one. Also, if there are any inaccuracies, please post them. Enjoy.

Swampdude 09-03-2007 19:29

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Here's my update:
yes 79 is awesome. I haven't seen a lot of matches, but our scouting has them as best scorer. 1902, 179, 56, 1523 are all averaging 4+ per match. there are another 7 or so 2-3 cappers. Then you have about 6 good ramps - 312, 180, 179, 1345, 69, 86. But another 12 or so that don't work. We've tried to climb 2 ramps today that didn't work. Our I/R sensor we use for autonomous won't work in the halogen lights. We score every single time at the practice field. But it refuses to work on the playing field. So frustrating.... 386, and 1902 have great autonomous. It think there might be more, but I haven't seen them. Pinks arm was tearing itself apart, but they had somone rush new parts to them and got back up and running. I guarantee they will be in finals and do very well. They were just unlucky with 744 chasing them their 1 match today, and no other partners. We're still seeing repetitive match alliances. We've got quite a few w/ and against 665 and 435. But I've seen much worse, I think 1902 had 5 or 6 matches against 1 team (glad it wasn't us). We've had bad luck with pairings etc. but hopefully we can get in a good alliance in the end. It's going to be a rough set of finals in Florida, ramps and ringers everywhere, don't miss it!
As far as the 3 on 1's, I can tell you that our inspection took over an HOUR! I can't fathom how they planned to get 51 inspections done with that level of detail. It was brutal..... What they were doing measuring bots on the field and such, I don't know. Maybe they finaly backed off on the inspection requirements to get the bulk through and then followed up on the field. I know this morning they still had 28 inspections to go....

Aeolus 09-03-2007 19:41

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Yeah, our arm was experiencing some unexpected/unwanted problems right after our first qualifying match on thursday. Essentially, the outer tower was being crunched in from rotating it, due to the inertia of the manipulator once the tower stopped moving (its a bit heavier than we expected...). Finally, after lunch today, we were able to fix it so we should running well tomorrow. Drivers are starting to get the hang of it as well. As a side note, thanks to all the teams out there that offered to help throughout the morning while we were working to get our bot up and running! See y'all tomorrow and good luck!

Winged Wonder 09-03-2007 20:53

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Brenton (above) pretty much summed up everything about our little robot issues. Worry not, tomorrow we should be back in business, with legal bumpers and fitting within the 72 inch box or whatever and all of this other nonsense that occured. It might just be me, but it seems like the judges like to judge us hard because we're a veteran team.

On another note, whats up with the ref sometimes removing a keeper from a robot and sometimes not? In one match we got the keeper hung up on the flag from our robot after autonomous period had ended... I thought they had to remove it at the end of autonomous, because I had seen that at a webcast from last week. But I didn't see it happen at UCF so I figured the rule had changed... but no, because a few hours later, I saw a ref run onto the field after autonomous and remove a keeper from a robot. I'm not yelling at the refs or anything... I'd just like to know what's up?

Oh, and no more tinted safety glasses? I knew the reflective ones that are dark like sunglasses were illegal (someone on my team got yelled at for them on Thursday) but today a lot of us were yelled at because our lenses are tinted pink. If I recall correctly, the rule only states that the dark ones arent allowed, but the tinted ones are ok. So why the rule change? Its rather inconvenient, since our team already spent a ton of money to buy enough safety glasses so that everyone on the team would have some. If they were going to change things, this would have been nice to know at Kickoff. But thats just me.

Good luck to everyone tomorrow!

lukevanoort 09-03-2007 21:06

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Winged Wonder (Post 594008)
Oh, and no more tinted safety glasses? I knew the reflective ones that are dark like sunglasses were illegal (someone on my team got yelled at for them on Thursday) but today a lot of us were yelled at because our lenses are tinted pink. If I recall correctly, the rule only states that the dark ones arent allowed, but the tinted ones are ok. So why the rule change? Its rather inconvenient, since our team already spent a ton of money to buy enough safety glasses so that everyone on the team would have some. If they were going to change things, this would have been nice to know at Kickoff. But thats just me.

From Team update #5
Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Update #5
FIRST requires all teams to bring and supply, for each competition, ANSI approved
non-shaded safety glasses for its team members, mentors, and guests.
For our purposes, amber lenses that allow for better/brighter vision are considered
tinted, not shaded, and their use is allowed at FIRST events. Sunglasses or deeply
shaded safety glasses used in our indoor event environment are not acceptable.

Depending on how you interpret this, specifically the last sentence, it can either make the pink safety glasses legal or illegal. The amber bit suggest that they'd be illegal due to them being neither clear nor amber, but the last sentence suggest they'd be legal because it is not a dark shading, unfortunately it is not clear which is the correct interpretation. Personally, I'd lean towards the illegal bit, since there is a very noticeable improvement in vision when using amber safety glasses esp. in low light condiditons, I can't imagine pink safety glasses offer the same benefits. (although I've never worn pink safety glasses)

Duke_of_Hazard 09-03-2007 21:32

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akshar (Post 593918)
the match i saw,right after lunch, 233 was pretty much shut down by 744, they were able to get one or two ringers on i think, and then were simply pushed around

i heard through the grapevine that 744 changed their wheels to face us. made me feel a little better :)

IdyllsOfLife 09-03-2007 21:36

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Depending on how you interpret this, specifically the last sentence, it can either make the pink safety glasses legal or illegal. The amber bit suggest that they'd be illegal due to them being neither clear nor amber, but the last sentence suggest they'd be legal because it is not a dark shading, unfortunately it is not clear which is the correct interpretation. Personally, I'd lean towards the illegal bit, since there is a very noticeable improvement in vision when using amber safety glasses esp. in low light condiditons, I can't imagine pink safety glasses offer the same benefits. (although I've never worn pink safety glasses)
You can see just fine. Your world just turns a different color. Seeing in pink is how it should be!

BoyWithCape195 09-03-2007 21:37

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Winged Wonder (Post 594008)
On another note, whats up with the ref sometimes removing a keeper from a robot and sometimes not? In one match we got the keeper hung up on the flag from our robot after autonomous period had ended... I thought they had to remove it at the end of autonomous, because I had seen that at a webcast from last week. But I didn't see it happen at UCF so I figured the rule had changed... but no, because a few hours later, I saw a ref run onto the field after autonomous and remove a keeper from a robot. I'm not yelling at the refs or anything... I'd just like to know what's up?

From what I have seen, the keeper is only removed from a robot when it could easily be scored without the team wanting to deliberately score it. For example, if a robot is holding a keeper directly above a spider leg but never let go during the auto mode, the refs will remove it. The reason for this is, if the keeper falls onto a spider leg after the auto mode is complete, the way the match is played and the outcome could be drastically different.

Kit Gerhart 09-03-2007 21:53

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akshar (Post 593918)
the match i saw,right after lunch, 233 was pretty much shut down by 744, they were able to get one or two ringers on i think, and then were simply pushed around

We are changing the tires on our center wheels which should give us more traction. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. I think we are up against Team 744 two more times.

Jonathan Norris 09-03-2007 22:19

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BoyWithCape195 (Post 594041)
From what I have seen, the keeper is only removed from a robot when it could easily be scored without the team wanting to deliberately score it. For example, if a robot is holding a keeper directly above a spider leg but never let go during the auto mode, the refs will remove it. The reason for this is, if the keeper falls onto a spider leg after the auto mode is complete, the way the match is played and the outcome could be drastically different.

At BAE the head ref removed the keeper every time, just look at the first match (where he kinda destroyed a keeper :p). I agree that consistency would be nice sometimes.

Nawaid Ladak 09-03-2007 23:48

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
most teams were either not ready or procrastinated to do them the morning of (today) and it was crazy

idk what was up with pink, but i think alot of the teams falling into that area the 2-4's 1-5's 1-4's, 2-3's, all got alot of talking to do.

(how does 233 have 8 matches, if they are 1-5, and someone stated above, that they got two more matches, this =8 there are 68 Qualification matches, so with 51 teams (each team would go around twice every 17 matches). so yes, that does =8, but my team only has 7 matches as far as what i saw on the page,)

if this is correct, my current team that im mentoring can end up 4-4. kool

like i said, alot of the teams had trouble inspecting, therefore most of the morning matches were empty, and thats why the standings are deceiving. so for those teams that are making their alliance lists tonight, wait till tomorrow and you guys will see alot of more talent (or at least i hope).

btw speaking of inspections, the match 1694 was up with 1062 and 179, i think match 48, the inspector apparently forgot to sign the paper and give it to the ref. therefore we couldn't play that match, which we could have won by 179 climbing up our ramp...

...is there going on with the volunteering, Barry, someone answer me please,

(btw, for those of you who wern't there afterwards, Barry got his hair dyed orange, thanks to team 1902)

Barry Bonzack 10-03-2007 00:51

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KatiePendock (Post 593896)
Wow, that was fun to watch the competition today on the webcast! Which bot had it's arm taken out? I missed the number of it...:ahh:

Looking great everyone! Tomorrow's gonna be awesome, and I think I'll actually wake up before noon because FIRST is just that exciting! ^_^

That was 1889 and 1390 getting tangled up together. 1390 was playing counter defense against 1889's advances on team 69. 1889 did have a ringer in possession. 1889's arm got caught in 1390's forklift, the robots tried to untangle themselves, and 1889 fell over snapping their arm off in the process. 1390 had to get rid of the 1889's blue ringer still attached to 1889's arm before climbing up 69's ramp.

It was a close call, I think a penalty could have gone either way. It was definitely not intentional to tip, nor break off 1889's arm. The 1390 students immediately asked 1889 if there was anything we could do to help repair the arm, but they said it was an easy fix and not to worry about it.

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 05:23

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

We are changing the tires on our center wheels which should give us more traction. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. I think we are up against Team 744 two more times.
I know the match list is generated randomly, but how is it that we'll be against 744 for a total of 4 times? Twice yesterday and twice today? I don't think we're the only ones either; there seem to be alot of repetitive matches.

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 05:29

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

like i said, alot of the teams had trouble inspecting, therefore most of the morning matches were empty, and thats why the standings are deceiving. so for those teams that are making their alliance lists tonight, wait till tomorrow and you guys will see alot of more talent (or at least i hope).
I've been into this for one year, but also I noticed that this year's regional has a lot more no shows than last year. And I don't think rankings always mean anything anyway because it usually conflicts with scouting data....

Also, there are way more penalties this year. Like every other match has a penalty on at least one side. Is this unusual as compared to last year or did I just not notice last year?

Duke_of_Hazard 10-03-2007 05:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IdyllsOfLife (Post 594154)
I've been into this for one year, but also I noticed that this year's regional has a lot more no shows than last year. And I don't think rankings always mean anything anyway because it usually conflicts with scouting data....

Also, there are way more penalties this year. Like every other match has a penalty on at least one side. Is this unusual as compared to last year or did I just not notice last year?

yes, there are more penalties this year, but theres much more possibility this year for them as well.

PS- GET TO THE BUS!

IdyllsOfLife 10-03-2007 07:08

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

yes, there are more penalties this year, but theres much more possibility this year for them as well.

PS- GET TO THE BUS!
Ohoho, I'm posting this from the bus with my wireless aircard. Yes, that's burnage for you.

slickguy2007 10-03-2007 11:32

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
The Alliances:

1. 69, 56, 1029
2. 1902, 179, 108
3. 1027, 79, 342
4. 1251, 1270, 86
5. 801, 1523, 744
6. 180, 233, 1889
7. 1592, 312, 157
8. 1557, 1543, 1065

Enjoy.

Joe Matt 10-03-2007 11:33

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Thanks Aaroon.

Good to see Tatsu up there, sad not to see the Knights though. :(

nuggetsyl 10-03-2007 11:36

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
i am picking allince 2 and 3 to meet in the semi finals

Tom Bottiglieri 10-03-2007 11:37

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Alliance 2 looks good.

What is this quarantine stuff?

nuggetsyl 10-03-2007 11:39

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slickguy2007 (Post 594201)
The Alliances:

1. 69, 56, 1029
2. 1902, 179, 108
3. 1027, 79, 342
4. 1251, 1270, 86
5. 801, 1523, 744
6. 180, 233, 1889
7. 1592, 312, 157
8. 1557, 1543, 1065

Enjoy.

1-8 1 wins
2-7 2 wins
3-6 3 wins
4-5 4 wins
1-4 4 wins
2-3 2 wins tough to call this one
2-4 2 wins

KatiePendock 10-03-2007 11:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 594138)
That was 1889 and 1390 getting tangled up together. 1390 was playing counter defense against 1889's advances on team 69. 1889 did have a ringer in possession. 1889's arm got caught in 1390's forklift, the robots tried to untangle themselves, and 1889 fell over snapping their arm off in the process. 1390 had to get rid of the 1889's blue ringer still attached to 1889's arm before climbing up 69's ramp.

It was a close call, I think a penalty could have gone either way. It was definitely not intentional to tip, nor break off 1889's arm. The 1390 students immediately asked 1889 if there was anything we could do to help repair the arm, but they said it was an easy fix and not to worry about it.


Good thing that it was a fairly easy fix!

The alliances are shaping up quite nicely...can't wait for 1pm!

Quarantine? That sounds new... So now no fixing/tweaking a bot during lunch?

Brandon Holley 10-03-2007 11:57

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
1 beats 4 in SF 1

2 beats 6 in SF 2



2 takes it for the win

Nuttyman54 10-03-2007 13:44

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I just missed the announcement about why they're replaying two of the QF matches. Something about a technical problem. Does anyone have the full story?

Luckyfish05 10-03-2007 13:57

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
In my cutting in and out webcast, I believe that I heard them say something about the radios not working correctly.

Bongle 10-03-2007 14:20

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Intermittent radio problems are affecting both alliances. They decided to continue, and told teams to just assume that it is part of the conditions to play under, since it (apparently) affects everyone fairly.

They also made an announcement to not bury your radio in your robot.

I'm thinking it's pretty funny that 342, 79, and 1027 all have blue bumpers and trim despite being on the red alliance.

Luckyfish05 10-03-2007 14:30

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Yuck I would not want to be playing under those conditions. It's very frustrating. Bongle, we've got two red shades (pink is just red with white in it) on the blue alliance. It's all just kinda ironic, I think they should just switch sides so we know what alliance they are on and we don't have to use the flags anymore.

Dan Petrovic 10-03-2007 14:42

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
This is interesting.

I'm watching the webcast and I see all of the teams going straight for the top two rows. At GSR, everyone was fighting for the bottom row.

It's amazing how much strategies differ between regions.

PandaMan 10-03-2007 14:57

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Team 86 has a very reliable ramp/lift mechanism. It looks to be easy to climb, and lifts every time.

Jonathan Norris 10-03-2007 15:16

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
180's ramp is massive...

i bet who ever wins between 1902 179 108 and 233 180 1889 wins the finals, those alliances are just too strong.

Nuttyman54 10-03-2007 15:23

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
these are definitely some of the best matches I've seen this year. Great job teams!

Kristian Calhoun 10-03-2007 15:39

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Finals: 108 179 1902 v 1251 86 1270

That last semi final match was really close, with the #2 alliance pulling out the win 10-8 over 233, 180 and 1889.

EDIT: The 1902, 179, 386 [replacement for 108] alliance just won the first match 16-4.

Also does anyone know why the number four alliance is red instead of blue? I always thought that the higher seeded alliance was red...

George A. 10-03-2007 16:03

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 594258)
Finals: 108 179 1902 v 1251 86 1270

That last semi final match was really close, with the #2 alliance pulling out the win 10-8 over 233, 180 and 1889.

EDIT: The 1902, 179, 386 [replacement for 108] alliance just won the first match 16-4.

Also does anyone know why the number four alliance is red instead of blue? I always thought that the higher seeded alliance was red...

In the quarterfinals and semifinals that's the case. But in the finals the left side of the ladder gets the red side, and the right side of the bracket gets the blue side.

Chrisms 10-03-2007 16:10

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Good job to everyone, and congratulations to 1270, 86 and 1251

That was a really close final match, I enjoyed watching it.

Good job tech tigers :)

KatiePendock 10-03-2007 16:12

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Wow! What an amazing end! Congrats to 1270, 86, and 1251!

Congrats to all the winners of various things at the awards ceremony, too ^_^

BoyWithCape195 10-03-2007 16:12

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
I think the winning alliance took everyone by surprise!

PandaMan 10-03-2007 16:14

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Congratulation to 1270 - 86 - 1251! You guys played some amazing matches. (Gotta love 86's ramp)

Po-ser 10-03-2007 16:16

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
That was an intense final match! I'm surprised ramps didn't play into strategy as much earlier on. Towards the end, it looked like everything was getting decided in the last 25 seconds... Anyhow, congrats to the winners!

Ed Coleman 10-03-2007 17:10

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
As I have alway figured, ramps make all the difference. Congrats to the winners. That was an awesome finals.

nightdragon 10-03-2007 18:43

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Thanks to all the teams that supported us. Way to go Red Dragons! I was not able to make it to the Florida Regional due to my wife being pregnant, but watched the matched on the webcast! What a great job!
I talked to our team a little while ago...something I did not notice was that team 86 busted their transmission in the 1st finals match. The next two matches they sat back and just acted as the ramp (what a great ramp). Amazing job to them and our partners, 1251, for scoring ringers! See you and 86 at the Championship!

aallen88 10-03-2007 18:50

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Congrats to the winning alliance :-D.

Especially to 1251, I'm very proud of you guys and was psyched when I found out you guys took another regional. Soooo proud of my tech tigers!!

swamp_child 10-03-2007 22:40

Re: Florida Regional 2007
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 594258)
Finals: 108 179 1902 v 1251 86 1270

That last semi final match was really close, with the #2 alliance pulling out the win 10-8 over 233, 180 and 1889.

EDIT: The 1902, 179, 386 [replacement for 108] alliance just won the first match 16-4.

Also does anyone know why the number four alliance is red instead of blue? I always thought that the higher seeded alliance was red...

we beat them in 2 on 3, because we missed the deadline to put in the sub by like 10 seconds.


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