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I cant wait for this regional to start! Only 9 hours till gates open, ill try to sleep, but i probably wont. Then again, Sleep Depravation and FIRST go hand in hand.:eek:
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7:00 am and it's a beautiful day out so far team 1251 is ready to rack and roll. Can't wait to see everyone at the Florida regional, it should be a good one.
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wow, i just watched 233, and I am very impressed with their robot (not like I wasn't before). They are putting up 6-8 tubes around teh whole rack (top, middle, bottom rows).
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http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics...regional-2007/
there is a link next to the small feed and you can open it in WMP or realplayer and get a bigger size. |
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The announcers need to learn what things are called. The foot?
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Are the match starting times posted anywhere online?
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I'm a little saddened by the webcast. Right when 245 came on the field it blurred horribly. At least the sound's good : ) I'm using WMP. Can't really read the info at the bottom consistently either. Hope it's better tomorrow! |
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Good luck Florida teams! I've seen some of you playing the practices, I've seen very interesting tactics. Autonomous was nice in some cases(which usually the rest where doing nothing). I already found a fav' bot, the one with the 180 arm that can do 90 degree pinch twist with an autonomous times that setes their arm towards the human player, can't remember the team number.:o
I'll be watching you guys in the seeding and tournament. :cool: Oh, and the quality is much better than the VCU one's, thanks allot for the comfertness!:D Good luck!:) One more thing, how do they show online? I was hoping there could be a way we could try to show our regionals too. |
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Hi Everyone,
Watching the practices. Question, the site (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics...regional-2007/) references RealPlayer but I can't find any sign of a Real based stream is there one or is there just the Windows Media? Perhaps there will be a real stream tomorrow? Thanks...Good luck to all the New England teams representing down in sunny Florida!!!, Justin |
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i just saw a human player score a ringer on the opposide side of the rack. anybody get that on video?
it was team 108, 408, 1543 vs 157,1027, 2152 |
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btw, my $0.02 The competition in florida is WEAK, with the exception to 56,179,233,79 and 1902 othing else really impressed me besides 1889's defensive tactics, i say forget taht arm and play defense like that every match, and you might find yourselfs in the elimination rounds |
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Anybody know where I can get archives of the video BEFORE the regional ends?
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Good luck tomorrow everyone! I'll be watching the webcast once I'm out of class....so be awesome!
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LOL Use the SOAP!
-Josh S. |
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Hey I'm from the team with the spine arm. Tonight during inspection the tip of our arm snapped.:ahh: We have two extra rods so it isn't that big of a deal but now or mechanical guys are going to be focused on that all morning and i was just curious if any teams could lend us a hand so we can get the manipulator that goes on the arm working. I understand that everyones going to be very busy tomorrow morning but if you have anyone you can spare for the morning we would greatly appreciate it. Oh and another update about our robot or programmer finished the drivercentric program tonight so hopefully it works tomorrow.:D
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I'll try to help, we dont have a lot of mechanical stuff to do, and i don't code.
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I bet it was Arefin. :p |
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Calling the matches today was a fun experience. I'm impressed with the performance of many of the robots that came to compete for practice matches. |
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Is anyone having alot of trouble with the webcast?
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It cuts out sometimes but its ok now.
Can someone post a picture of the match list? Please please pleaseeee i'll give you positive rep :p |
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Yes i couldnt get it to play for more than 3-5 seconds on my laptop. After those issues, i opted to open the webcast in WMP on my desktop directly through the Link and it has seemed to work nice since then.
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Why are there so many no shows at UCF? 233 did not make a practice nor there first qualification match. Robot inspection too tough?
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whats going on down there...every other match is a 3 on 1??
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why are the refs using tape measures before the matches? haven't the robots been inspected?
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In match 13 i saw a row of 6 that should have not counted. At least in nj if there was a tube under another tube hanging on the bottem row it did not count.
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At BAE ringers that had another on the floor under them were counted. In my opinion, that is the correct way to score these, otherwise you can get free spoilers just by pushing any tube on the floor under ones scored on the bottom row.
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anybody know whats wrong with 233 robot? and why it hasn't come out yet
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anyone know why we dont have scores / rankings on the first site?
at least we have the webcast. |
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Does seem a little ridiculous though...a team can score a ringer, but then have it disallowed because another tube was pushed up against it, even though clearly it had been scored? Is so, I hope teams figure out that there are still two other rows to score on. :) |
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Team 79 has the best robot/driver combination I have seen this year...$0.02
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Right now, I can see standings for Bayou, but not match results. Probably you are right about the cause; not all venues get good internet connections. |
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How unfortunate. I've got the webcast working (becuase there isn't one of GLR :( ) and it's lunch break. I'm taking my laptop to math class and watching there too...
Stupid college classes:mad: |
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Looks like a great regional down there in FL. Don't know how the New England teams are doing, no rankings :-( But you guys have a great MC and a blast from the past. Greg Hale who use to MC New England while Woodie was off at the other new regionals like New Jersey, etc. back in 98. Question does Greg still work at Disney?? Just curious.
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Watching the webcast I have seen a tonn of good ramp bots. This seems to be the regional of the ramp bots :p
At least most of them are the full type of ramp bots (not the slot bots) with alot of space to get up on them. |
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I just got the webcast to work 1902 is looking really good. that was a impressive Congo line you guys had going on there seem like an exciting regional.
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Wow 79 is a very very impressive machine....i believe they just removed a spoiler! :eek:
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79 and 1902 seem to be the power houses. Should be an exciting eliminations.
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Wow, that was fun to watch the competition today on the webcast! Which bot had it's arm taken out? I missed the number of it...:ahh:
Looking great everyone! Tomorrow's gonna be awesome, and I think I'll actually wake up before noon because FIRST is just that exciting! ^_^ |
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Congrats to the following teams on their award wins! :
1902 - Imagery 56 - Innovation in Control 386 - Creativity 69 - Delphi's Driving Tomorrow's Technology 342 - Entrepreneurship 1270 - Judges' Award 1065 - Website (Way to go Michelle and the rest of the webteam! :)) Warren Boudreaux - WFA |
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1902s biggest advantage is the keepers I think (they have had the most impressive autonomous I've seen at UCF), but they are getting harassed a lot during driver control. When left alone they are brutal. I think 79 became the first team to remove a spoiler as well. From what I heard about practice day, 233 seemed impressive when they took the field (granted, this is all second hand knowledge). I missed their matches today though, and they missed several this morning. |
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They did go out once today (around 3:00ish), but it looked like they were having some problems with their arm.
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I saw pink compete in two matches today. In one of them they scored about 2 to 3 tubes and in the second match I saw a tube got stuck on their flag in auto. and they could not get it off.
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Congratulations to all teams. I was there all day Saturday and I am saw some good robots. Good to see old friends to. Unfortunately being an adult is no fun and I had to work all day and couldn’t see any matches. Its sad to here about 233's robot, they always have a strong robot I hope they can get it working. 79 has an impressive robot, but they always do.
On a different note. The stuff I am hearing about next years regional is really exciting and I can’t wait to start volunteering again. Good luck to all teams tomorrow hopefully I can stop by after I get off work. I am the person wearing the "vintage" (as someone put it on Thursday) PAW 710 shirt. |
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This is the transcript of the matches that our scout was able to compile. It has a few matches missing around lunch and it dosn't have the first one. Also, if there are any inaccuracies, please post them. Enjoy.
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Here's my update:
yes 79 is awesome. I haven't seen a lot of matches, but our scouting has them as best scorer. 1902, 179, 56, 1523 are all averaging 4+ per match. there are another 7 or so 2-3 cappers. Then you have about 6 good ramps - 312, 180, 179, 1345, 69, 86. But another 12 or so that don't work. We've tried to climb 2 ramps today that didn't work. Our I/R sensor we use for autonomous won't work in the halogen lights. We score every single time at the practice field. But it refuses to work on the playing field. So frustrating.... 386, and 1902 have great autonomous. It think there might be more, but I haven't seen them. Pinks arm was tearing itself apart, but they had somone rush new parts to them and got back up and running. I guarantee they will be in finals and do very well. They were just unlucky with 744 chasing them their 1 match today, and no other partners. We're still seeing repetitive match alliances. We've got quite a few w/ and against 665 and 435. But I've seen much worse, I think 1902 had 5 or 6 matches against 1 team (glad it wasn't us). We've had bad luck with pairings etc. but hopefully we can get in a good alliance in the end. It's going to be a rough set of finals in Florida, ramps and ringers everywhere, don't miss it! As far as the 3 on 1's, I can tell you that our inspection took over an HOUR! I can't fathom how they planned to get 51 inspections done with that level of detail. It was brutal..... What they were doing measuring bots on the field and such, I don't know. Maybe they finaly backed off on the inspection requirements to get the bulk through and then followed up on the field. I know this morning they still had 28 inspections to go.... |
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Yeah, our arm was experiencing some unexpected/unwanted problems right after our first qualifying match on thursday. Essentially, the outer tower was being crunched in from rotating it, due to the inertia of the manipulator once the tower stopped moving (its a bit heavier than we expected...). Finally, after lunch today, we were able to fix it so we should running well tomorrow. Drivers are starting to get the hang of it as well. As a side note, thanks to all the teams out there that offered to help throughout the morning while we were working to get our bot up and running! See y'all tomorrow and good luck!
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Brenton (above) pretty much summed up everything about our little robot issues. Worry not, tomorrow we should be back in business, with legal bumpers and fitting within the 72 inch box or whatever and all of this other nonsense that occured. It might just be me, but it seems like the judges like to judge us hard because we're a veteran team.
On another note, whats up with the ref sometimes removing a keeper from a robot and sometimes not? In one match we got the keeper hung up on the flag from our robot after autonomous period had ended... I thought they had to remove it at the end of autonomous, because I had seen that at a webcast from last week. But I didn't see it happen at UCF so I figured the rule had changed... but no, because a few hours later, I saw a ref run onto the field after autonomous and remove a keeper from a robot. I'm not yelling at the refs or anything... I'd just like to know what's up? Oh, and no more tinted safety glasses? I knew the reflective ones that are dark like sunglasses were illegal (someone on my team got yelled at for them on Thursday) but today a lot of us were yelled at because our lenses are tinted pink. If I recall correctly, the rule only states that the dark ones arent allowed, but the tinted ones are ok. So why the rule change? Its rather inconvenient, since our team already spent a ton of money to buy enough safety glasses so that everyone on the team would have some. If they were going to change things, this would have been nice to know at Kickoff. But thats just me. Good luck to everyone tomorrow! |
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most teams were either not ready or procrastinated to do them the morning of (today) and it was crazy
idk what was up with pink, but i think alot of the teams falling into that area the 2-4's 1-5's 1-4's, 2-3's, all got alot of talking to do. (how does 233 have 8 matches, if they are 1-5, and someone stated above, that they got two more matches, this =8 there are 68 Qualification matches, so with 51 teams (each team would go around twice every 17 matches). so yes, that does =8, but my team only has 7 matches as far as what i saw on the page,) if this is correct, my current team that im mentoring can end up 4-4. kool like i said, alot of the teams had trouble inspecting, therefore most of the morning matches were empty, and thats why the standings are deceiving. so for those teams that are making their alliance lists tonight, wait till tomorrow and you guys will see alot of more talent (or at least i hope). btw speaking of inspections, the match 1694 was up with 1062 and 179, i think match 48, the inspector apparently forgot to sign the paper and give it to the ref. therefore we couldn't play that match, which we could have won by 179 climbing up our ramp... ...is there going on with the volunteering, Barry, someone answer me please, (btw, for those of you who wern't there afterwards, Barry got his hair dyed orange, thanks to team 1902) |
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It was a close call, I think a penalty could have gone either way. It was definitely not intentional to tip, nor break off 1889's arm. The 1390 students immediately asked 1889 if there was anything we could do to help repair the arm, but they said it was an easy fix and not to worry about it. |
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Also, there are way more penalties this year. Like every other match has a penalty on at least one side. Is this unusual as compared to last year or did I just not notice last year? |
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PS- GET TO THE BUS! |
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The Alliances:
1. 69, 56, 1029 2. 1902, 179, 108 3. 1027, 79, 342 4. 1251, 1270, 86 5. 801, 1523, 744 6. 180, 233, 1889 7. 1592, 312, 157 8. 1557, 1543, 1065 Enjoy. |
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Thanks Aaroon.
Good to see Tatsu up there, sad not to see the Knights though. :( |
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i am picking allince 2 and 3 to meet in the semi finals
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Alliance 2 looks good.
What is this quarantine stuff? |
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2-7 2 wins 3-6 3 wins 4-5 4 wins 1-4 4 wins 2-3 2 wins tough to call this one 2-4 2 wins |
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Good thing that it was a fairly easy fix! The alliances are shaping up quite nicely...can't wait for 1pm! Quarantine? That sounds new... So now no fixing/tweaking a bot during lunch? |
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1 beats 4 in SF 1
2 beats 6 in SF 2 2 takes it for the win |
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I just missed the announcement about why they're replaying two of the QF matches. Something about a technical problem. Does anyone have the full story?
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In my cutting in and out webcast, I believe that I heard them say something about the radios not working correctly.
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Intermittent radio problems are affecting both alliances. They decided to continue, and told teams to just assume that it is part of the conditions to play under, since it (apparently) affects everyone fairly.
They also made an announcement to not bury your radio in your robot. I'm thinking it's pretty funny that 342, 79, and 1027 all have blue bumpers and trim despite being on the red alliance. |
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Yuck I would not want to be playing under those conditions. It's very frustrating. Bongle, we've got two red shades (pink is just red with white in it) on the blue alliance. It's all just kinda ironic, I think they should just switch sides so we know what alliance they are on and we don't have to use the flags anymore.
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This is interesting.
I'm watching the webcast and I see all of the teams going straight for the top two rows. At GSR, everyone was fighting for the bottom row. It's amazing how much strategies differ between regions. |
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Team 86 has a very reliable ramp/lift mechanism. It looks to be easy to climb, and lifts every time.
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180's ramp is massive...
i bet who ever wins between 1902 179 108 and 233 180 1889 wins the finals, those alliances are just too strong. |
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these are definitely some of the best matches I've seen this year. Great job teams!
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Finals: 108 179 1902 v 1251 86 1270
That last semi final match was really close, with the #2 alliance pulling out the win 10-8 over 233, 180 and 1889. EDIT: The 1902, 179, 386 [replacement for 108] alliance just won the first match 16-4. Also does anyone know why the number four alliance is red instead of blue? I always thought that the higher seeded alliance was red... |
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Good job to everyone, and congratulations to 1270, 86 and 1251
That was a really close final match, I enjoyed watching it. Good job tech tigers :) |
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Wow! What an amazing end! Congrats to 1270, 86, and 1251!
Congrats to all the winners of various things at the awards ceremony, too ^_^ |
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I think the winning alliance took everyone by surprise!
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Congratulation to 1270 - 86 - 1251! You guys played some amazing matches. (Gotta love 86's ramp)
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That was an intense final match! I'm surprised ramps didn't play into strategy as much earlier on. Towards the end, it looked like everything was getting decided in the last 25 seconds... Anyhow, congrats to the winners!
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As I have alway figured, ramps make all the difference. Congrats to the winners. That was an awesome finals.
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Thanks to all the teams that supported us. Way to go Red Dragons! I was not able to make it to the Florida Regional due to my wife being pregnant, but watched the matched on the webcast! What a great job!
I talked to our team a little while ago...something I did not notice was that team 86 busted their transmission in the 1st finals match. The next two matches they sat back and just acted as the ramp (what a great ramp). Amazing job to them and our partners, 1251, for scoring ringers! See you and 86 at the Championship! |
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Congrats to the winning alliance :-D.
Especially to 1251, I'm very proud of you guys and was psyched when I found out you guys took another regional. Soooo proud of my tech tigers!! |
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