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DanDon 30-10-2006 22:37

So, How do you shift?
 
Alright folks, I have a question for y'all. How do you shift gears at the operator station?

Do you use the buttons on the joystick? Do you use a switch on the control board? Do you use a switch that was custom mounted on the joystick? Or do you use something totally different?

Any and all comments are appreciated.

/dan

TimCraig 30-10-2006 22:43

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
Right trigger controls shifting. Left trigger switches between single and dual joystick control. Left top button rotates though the joystick translation profiles.

Right top button controls the ejection seat. :rolleyes:

Jeff K. 30-10-2006 22:54

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
Right Trigger to shift.
Originally it was left trigger, but right was better for me and left the left trigger for something else. :rolleyes:

Mike Schroeder 30-10-2006 22:55

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
i get in my seat, get comfy, buckle up for saftey ( i recommend it to everyone) put the key in the ignition, and as with every thing i have ever driven, i use the automatic transmission stick that is on my steering column, and shift into forward or reverse as needed, there is even an option for 2nd or 1st gear, but i really never use those

Stuart 30-10-2006 23:02

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
r thumb trigger

AdamHeard 30-10-2006 23:07

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
Team 294 will be using either a 2 or 4 speed transmission this year that will be controlled by encoders.

We are planning on using the triggers as manual overrides.

If we have the 4 speed, we will automatically switch between 2 and 3 as the standard speeds and use the triggers to force it into high and low gear. But, this all depends on the game; We may cancel our plans for shifters if we don't need them.

Travis Covington 30-10-2006 23:07

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
We use an on/off switch on the handle of the joystick. We cut a square hole in the grip portion (where your palm would normally go) so our driver never has to remove his hand from the prefered position he holds it at (which is towards the base of the joystick, resting his palm on the base at times). The reason we (I) prefer the on/off switch is that you can always look down and know what gear you are in. We had thought about using the trigger or a momentary button, but we could never be sure what gear we were in. Granted, you should know... unfortunately, however, in the heat of competition you never really can be sure of anything.

fimmel 30-10-2006 23:47

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
ofcorse you could have some leds to show what gear your in......heck you could make a HUD (heads up display for them......put them on the brom of a hat so you could see the or something......:D

Cory 31-10-2006 00:09

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
joystick trigger.

Jeff K. 31-10-2006 00:42

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fimmel
ofcorse you could have some leds to show what gear your in......heck you could make a HUD (heads up display for them......put them on the brom of a hat so you could see the or something......:D

It could tell you that you have powered the solenoid to shift, but it doesn't tell you if it actually shifted or not. We installed reed sensors for this in case to see if we actually completed the shift or not. We ordered the magnetic piston, and installed two on each cylinder to know when it completed the shift. When we lowered the psi to the shifters, it shifted flawlessly, so we didn't need the sensors.

Also, I'm not sure about you, but I'm not a hat person. :p

Starke 31-10-2006 10:48

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
The Jeep Bot used the forward/reverse lever of the power wheels car to shift to first or second :yikes: .

Dylan Gramlich 31-10-2006 12:45

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
we have an automatic or manual 4 speed. I believe we took the idea from team 33 killer bees. We use encoders to tell our pistons when to fire. this way we can determine the best shift points. Just in case the encoders go out we can switch to manual and we use 1 of the top buttons on the right to go up and one on the left to go down. We can also use either trigger to drop into 1st gear for pushing(or staying stationary better) or by pushing both triggers it goes into 1st gear and shuts off the compressor to give a little added power.

s_forbes 31-10-2006 13:01

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
On our interface last year we had three arcade style buttons labeled "Light Speed", "Ridiculous Speed", and "Ludicrous Speed". After our transmissions fried we didn't use them too much anymore.


EDIT: pic of our OI at nationals:

Tom Bottiglieri 31-10-2006 13:09

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes
On our interface last year we had three arcade style buttons labeled "Light Speed", "Ridiculous Speed", and "Ludicrous Speed". After our transmissions fried we didn't use them too much anymore.

Mechanical parts can fry?

We've always just used the triggers. When we had the 4 speed (waste of time), we had the indicator LEDs light up on the OI to show what gear we were in.

Mike Starke 31-10-2006 13:19

Re: So, How do you shift?
 
On Team 340, we use the black joysticks. On these, there are two buttons per joystick. They are located on the top, and the other one is a trigger. We only use one joystick for the shifting, generally the right one.


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