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Dan Petrovic 02-03-2007 19:15

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Originally Posted by K.Porter (Post 588935)
Has anyone found the YouTube videos that were featured today at the competition? I've tried out the tags that they've displayed, yet, nothing. (seeing as 172 was specifically mentioned, I wouldn't mind seeing the video...)

By the way; 172 would like to invite all of our potential allies to take a look towards using our ramps! We hold the potential for 60 easy points... We've had surprisingly few robots who have even come back to them at the end of the game...:(

Yeah. Those ramps are really nice. Too bad you guys have had the problem with robots touching the wall (except for the match we tied.. :rolleyes:)

It definately looks like you'll be one of the top picks at BAE.

I'm kind of surprised with the strategies. Most of the scoring is actually happening on the bottom row. It takes too long to get high up, apparently. There are a lot of teams that do not have working robots. Some of them can play some pretty tough defense. No yellow cards have been assessed, as far as I know, and they have called teams on the 72 x 72 box.

Autonomous is pretty rare. Buzz scored once yesterday, and I don't know if anyone else scored today other than 1073. It was the first time it worked and they were on our alliance. Perfect!

K.Porter 02-03-2007 19:26

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Originally Posted by InfernoX14 (Post 588939)
Yeah. Those ramps are really nice. Too bad you guys have had the problem with robots touching the wall (except for the match we tied.. :rolleyes:)


Yeah, that was really a mistake on our part. We backed into the corner without really judging the distance to the side wall. As long as we deploy towards the center of the field, there is no problem. Our drivers have been talked to a bit about this already. Won't happen again.
I'm disappointed at all the low chassis and mecanum wheels though. Even with a gentle 18 degree slope, there have been a lot of robots that have just said no. (and the robots that can climb are all too busy scoring tons of points.)

Our hope is that the ramps will be attractive enough to the top 8 to be chosen into a good (winning?) alliance. :cool:

Daniel_LaFleur 02-03-2007 20:37

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
Our ramp and platform have been working well here at BAE GSR.

We've had robots on top of us all day, we even had 2 in one match (only 45 points though :( )

And defense has shown to be very effective in this game :yikes:

rocknthehawk 02-03-2007 22:02

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 588588)
Modifying your robot to "fix" another team's design flaw = Bad, period.

I would also disagree with this. Our platform will not hold a robot with bumpers, BUT with the removal of one, it becomes very easy.

Also, after talking with Andy for a short time today, I think we have come to the conclusion that most teams going up ramps need to slow down a bit and just take it easy.

We have been giving teams 30-40 seconds, and it seems not worth it at this point. We cut our guardrail down as low as possible for low bumpered robots. We give them tips on driving up. What more does it take? Any thing to add to this Andy? Even some experienced driveteams are having trouble with this...with a low approach angle fo 14 degrees, we did not think this would be a problem....

Greg Marra 02-03-2007 22:15

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
Does anyone know why the FIRST site for the BAE Regional is not displaying match scores or rankings? I think it might be something similar to why the Pacific Northwest scores are corrupt halfway through, or maybe they just don't have a net connection at the venue. Anyone at the regional have the inside scoop?

platypus 02-03-2007 22:36

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Attached is the data from the multi-team scouting database that team 166 started.

Thanks to the teams that contributed. Hopefully, we can expand on this idea in future years, as this is still mostly a database of strictly Chop Shop's scouting data. It isn't particularly complete, but it should be a help to teams out there that might be picking tomorrow.


(Shamless Plug/ Team 166 is ranked 20th and has won its last 3 matches after stumbling early. We're definitely worth looking at, as we might even slide into the top 10 if we win our two matches tomorrow /End Shamless Plug)

Jonathan Norris 02-03-2007 22:44

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
Yea I don't think we get wireless in the arena, so far (from what I have heard) the scoring here has been a good deal higher then at other regionals, there have been a few matches in the 200's. the best teams so far (my opinion); 40, 175, 126, 58, 500 (or 501 can't remember), 1276, 296, 172 and 190 have good ramps. Thats about all I can remember in my half asleep daze.

edit: But then we have played the same group of teams the whole day.. so I am sure I am missing some teams that have performed well.

teenmisfit 03-03-2007 00:27

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
I love the ramp bots.. They make the game sooo much more fun and interesting. Anyone have an updated score board? im up late trying to figure out who is ranked where :yikes:

PS: i love 172s robot. The pink is in! And i wish i had gotten the chance to drive up your ramp

soap108 03-03-2007 15:24

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 589060)
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Thanks for uploading the movies. Note the 'deinterlace' option in WME. I sent a PM on it.

Good work!

http://soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/movies/nh/

KA-108

Heretic121 03-03-2007 15:40

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
Any updates on Alliances, Rankings? anything?

Last i saw on First's website it only shoed the top 6 rnaked teams...

Jonathan Norris 03-03-2007 18:43

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
501, 175, and 18** (the ramp bot) won the regional. 190 won Chairmans, 610 won EI, 1991 got all rookie awards, 172 won spirit.. thats all i can remember right now

Dan Petrovic 03-03-2007 19:07

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 589467)
501, 175, and 18** (the ramp bot) won the regional. 190 won Chairmans, 610 won EI, 1991 got all rookie awards, 172 won spirit.. thats all i can remember right now

1824 was the ramp bot.

166 won the second day Judge's Award for the second year in a row :D

What was a great about 1991 is that they are from a deaf school. So instead of clapping, they raise their hands and wave them. Since we were behind them the entire time in the stands, when they won their awards we waved our hands instead of clapping. Eventually, the entire stadium was waving their hands. :cool:

Abrakadabra 03-03-2007 19:08

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
The eventual winning alliance, 501/175/1824, posted an amazing score of 316(!) in their 2nd quarterfinal round. They completely encircled the rack on the lower level for 256 points (primarily due to 175 "Buzz"es fearsome scoring ability) and then both 501 and 175 drove on top of 1824 ("the Rampbot" - big, ugly, and totally effective!), to finish the scoring off with a 60 pt. bonus.

Pix here:http://www.baesystemsfirst.org/regio...7-0086-146.htm

and here:http://www.baesystemsfirst.org/regio...7-0086-148.htm

And, their opponents posted zero for the round.

An amazing sight to watch. Congrats to the winning alliance! They were indeed a match made in heaven!

Daniel_LaFleur 03-03-2007 19:32

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
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Originally Posted by Abrakadabra (Post 589480)
The eventual winning alliance, 501/175/1824, posted an amazing score of 316(!) in their 2nd quarterfinal round. They completely encircled the rack on the lower level for 256 points (primarily due to 175 "Buzz"es fearsome scoring ability) and then both 501 and 175 drove on top of 1824 ("the Rampbot" - big, ugly, and totally effective!), to finish the scoring off with a 60 pt. bonus.

And, their opponents posted zero for the round.

An amazing sight to watch. Congrats to the winning alliance! They were indeed a match made in heaven!

ROFL. "Big, Ugly and effective" ... Yep, thats us :)

Our alliance partners (501 & 175) were absolutely the best. Such awesome scorers. I can't thank them enough for picking us. I believe Buzz scored 6 ringers in that round and 501 scored the other 2, while we played a some hard defense. Seeing 2 up 12" at the end was fun too :)

Petey 03-03-2007 19:54

Re: 2007 New Hampshire Regional (BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional)
 
What a terrific event!

A few notes

A) I can't believe how many teams didn't use 172's awesome ramp. Falgor, you guys were great for winning the spirit award and you designed the bot I wish we'd built.
B) Holy hell, the winning alliance was ultrapowerful. Congrats to 501/175/1834. I gotta tell you, I was sitting up there in the balcony when you were playing our alliance in the finals, just thinking "$@#$@#$@#$@#...there is to be a way to beat them. There has to be SOME WAY to beat them." But guess what? There wasn't. You'll do BAE proud at Nats!
C) Thanks to 1474 and 500 for picking us to be their alliance partner. I thought an alliance without a ramp be two and out, but boy was I wrong. 500, when we both scored in autonomous mode it was one of the greatest feelings of comp. We've been to the playoffs each of our five years in FIRST, but never to finals until now. Thanks for the trip.
D) Speaking of great feelings, how awesome of a feel-good story was Team 1991? Rookies, and half of their team is from the American School for the Deaf? I got chills when they won both rookie awards and the entire crowd, rather than clapping, signed applause.
E) I also got goosebumps during Dean's speech about changing the way we teach and bringing FIRST to everyone. I don't share his abject hatred for phyiscal activity--I like to walk, and I loved high school sports--but the man can speak.

Also, my team has a copy of the entire projector video feed from competition. We have to figure out our legal rights regarding it, but then we'll check on what (if anything) we can put on the web.


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