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Billfred 14-11-2006 14:22

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew
Here is the real question... Are you trying to do multiple things or just one thing? because mac is more for Photo editing or video editing or animation, while pc is more for All of the above and games and everything else.

I suppose that means that the stuff I hear about being able to play World of Warcraft, RCT3, and et cetera is not necessarily true. :rolleyes:

I had another resident from my building chew me out today for putting an iMac G5 (generation before the iSight one, I think) in the computer lab, claiming it worthless unless you're a creative type. I'm about as uncreative as they come, and I still prefer OS X for just my day-to-day tasks. It might be an acquired taste, but if you give it a fair shake, it really can win you over. (That's from a decade-plus Windows user.)

Joe Matt 14-11-2006 14:23

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew
Here is the real question... Are you trying to do multiple things or just one thing? because mac is more for Photo editing or video editing or animation, while pc is more for All of the above and games and everything else.

Right. So I'm imagining myself typing away on office, or sending email, or playing games on my Mac? I see. Is it that your PC can do all of that as good as a Mac, or are you sour graping us?

Michael Hill 14-11-2006 15:25

Re: pc/mac
 
HAHA, being productive at work on a Mac...classic! I also think it's hilarious that "Mac" from the Mac vs. PC commercials isn't doing it anymore.

They're stopping the ads as well...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35620 (note, not the National Inquirer)

I love the title of the story. "Apple fires 'smug little twit'. No the other one"

Joe Matt 14-11-2006 16:04

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hill
HAHA, being productive at work on a Mac...classic! I also think it's hilarious that "Mac" from the Mac vs. PC commercials isn't doing it anymore.

They're stopping the ads as well...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35620 (note, not the National Inquirer)

I love the title of the story. "Apple fires 'smug little twit'. No the other one"

Lets go the Justin's site (aka Mac) and see what he says

http://www.justinlong.net/ubbthreads7/ubbthreads.php

Why look at that, you're wrong again. Go troll somewhere else please.

KelliV 14-11-2006 16:34

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hill
HAHA, being productive at work on a Mac...classic!

I just finished an 6 hour editing session on a mac (one of five in the last week) and got an entire 30 minute show finished. Last time I checked that was quite productive.

RoboJedi75 14-11-2006 20:01

Re: pc/mac
 
Mac OS X doesn't have as many applications to choose from as Windows does, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're any worse, in fact all the Mac programs I have used have done things as good as, and better, than the windows programs I use. That's productivity to me.

And you have to remember that building a PC is most always going to be cheaper than buying one, because the labor factor has been changed. If you want to build a PC, well... try putting a price tag on your time.

I definitely think that once you get used to the Mac (and the program) interfaces, it is easier to deal with everyday.

Cody Carey 14-11-2006 20:44

Re: pc/mac
 
Hmmm... after thinking long and hard, all I can come up with is this:

It is your money, do with it what you want. If you like Macs, buy a Mac, and if you like PCs, then buy one.

This argument is getting everybody nowhere fast.

Eric W. Jones 14-11-2006 22:18

Re: pc/mac
 
A PC is for those who wish to have a top-end system that can store the library of congress and such odd, while macs are for those users who don't really need all that much processor speed and don't want messy automatic Windows updates. This is an oversimplification, but essentially true.

(I really dislike Windows, by the way)

Apples are tasty.

efoote868 15-11-2006 17:52

Re: pc/mac
 
one thing i hate about windows is its registry, and settings inside of it. Looking at the registry of a 6 year old windows machine with many users is a nightmare, and windows could have done alot better job with it. Also, the "autoprotect" features are laughable... most of the time the bug gets into the machine long before it goes to work.

You just don't see macs getting viruses, although i'm sure that theres several reasons behind it (popularity being one of them).

I haven't used macs enough to make informed decisions... but let me tell you, after struggling with WMM for several hours to get a semi-decent 10 min movie done, i'm willing to shell out the $$.

6600gt 15-11-2006 19:07

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efoote868
one thing i hate about windows is its registry, and settings inside of it. Looking at the registry of a 6 year old windows machine with many users is a nightmare, and windows could have done alot better job with it. Also, the "autoprotect" features are laughable... most of the time the bug gets into the machine long before it goes to work.

You just don't see macs getting viruses, although i'm sure that theres several reasons behind it (popularity being one of them).

I haven't used macs enough to make informed decisions... but let me tell you, after struggling with WMM for several hours to get a semi-decent 10 min movie done, i'm willing to shell out the $$.

Just go buy Adobe Premier Elements.

Apple comes with decent software. Windows doesn't but that doesn't mean they just don't exist. You just have to buy them. But a PC is cheaper than a Mac to begin with.

Apple: for people who don't like to deal with the reality of computers. Good looking but expensive.

Windows: for people who love to screw with their computers. Can do everything but it requires a little more work.

Billfred 15-11-2006 20:59

Re: pc/mac
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6600gt
Apple: for people who don't like to deal with the reality of computers. Good looking but expensive.

Windows: for people who love to screw with their computers. Can do everything but it requires a little more work.

Oy with the generalizations already! I can do anything I want with my iBook--I simply choose not to. And for the vast majority of people like me (alright, nobody's exactly like me, but you get the idea), that's fine.

And I'll further note that your assertion of Windows being "for people who love to screw with their computers" is a double-edged sword. I administer the building's computer lab--three Dells, one iMac. To lock down the iMac to my desired state (no changing the settings for normal users, only certain worthy programs, no utilities, saving files is fine), I just log out the lab account, log in as the administrator, go System Preferences->Accounts, click the lock, enter the my password again for security, and go to town. If someone made a valid case for me to unblock, say, iChat on the computer, I could do it in about four clicks from there.

On Windows, I have to root around in Group Policy (which took much Googling for me to even know about--it is by no means a visible option) to achieve a similar effect of locking down the desktop--but I can't keep the users out of programs they can install without administrator priviliges, and it also keeps me from setting the Administrator's desktop the way I want it.

If I were charged with purchasing computers right now for that lab, I'd be looking at a set of Mac minis and perhaps one well-equipped iMac for Parallels and heavier lifting. Why? Because they're easy to administer, reasonably durable, have a great operating system, have a great support group behind them (take THAT, eMachines and Dell!), and I just prefer 'em.

Cody Carey 15-11-2006 22:26

Re: pc/mac
 
As it turns out, we stand on the shoulders of giants. ;)

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...676145670.html
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmacvspc.info %2F&ei=O89bRYDXMqbkoALOw6T2Cw&usg=__kw75SuZ8Jeb2RK KRWX6g6ZOwtzY=&sig2=nP8TH_GQ4ZAIB1gBtTRr6Q
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epinions .com%2Fcmhd-Apple-Topics-1&ei=O89bRYDXMqbkoALOw6T2Cw&usg=__Pq1x__ZrqrbH_Ipz y2ubOlDMBEw=&sig2=L3lrnaipwZKqWhLMKoPU2Q
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jmushene aux.com%2F&ei=O89bRYDXMqbkoALOw6T2Cw&usg=__8pnc6xS NQeMNrriYsTqT-rXKrts=&sig2=4CT8nk86cKAceLonXnBWbQ
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=13&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.epinion s.com%2Fcmd-review-64C6-B21728E-39C22EE9-prod1&ei=b9dbReisB5PMpwKnt8zxCw&usg=__gs6lYcfEffXI dwsgeZS-jbEhebk=&sig2=Qi6-GT1HE-SWAf_L_06pyw


The first listed page is the least biased in one direction, and while I don't necessarily agree with the outcome (whodathunk?), it is the most accurate. It is also a useful tool in the argument because it breaks the comparison down into multiple sub-categories, and for that reason gives a more accurate report when looked at on those sub-levels. What I don't agree with, however, is that the system is not weighted. Appearance gets the same amount of points as performance, which gets the same ten points as cost. Mac got 5 of its overall points from appearance, and without those, it would not have won, but I have always been a function over form guy myself.


All of the pages following the first are obviously biased, and are just linked to so that I can show how overly "beat-up" this argument is.

If you think about it, it is just like the engineer bot argument in FIRST.

-Cody C

Michael Hill 15-11-2006 22:57

Re: pc/mac
 
You guys aren't going to believe this, but I used a Mac today. It wasn't as bad as I expected. All I had to do was check something on a website. Though I'd have to say the bouncing icons at the bottom of the screen were annoying. I hated Safari though. If I use a Mac again, I'll definitely use Firefox. I didn't like the feel of the keyboard, but the look of the computer was definitely pretty sleek. I feel a little better about Macs. I was messing with Photoshop, and everything was the same, which was cool. I do like how they crammed all the computer in the monitor, though.

shawger 15-11-2006 23:04

Re: pc/mac
 
Maybe I'm just weird, but I find Macs to be almost totally unusable. This probably has to do with me not using them very much, but the reason still stands.

Another thing I dislike about them is their incredibly proprietary nature. They force you to use all their software and all their hardware. I'd like a nice open system that works with nearly any hardware and has a ton of software.

Linux ftw! </shameless linux plug>

KelliV 16-11-2006 08:41

Re: pc/mac
 
Broke my MacBook Pro again... I am going to send it back to Mac... there is definatly something wrong with it. I guess that is a good thing about Macs. They have nice people at the stores that can help me fix my problems. Our campus rep is pretty cool too.
FYI the darn laptop goes from half battery to no battery in a matter of around 4 seconds and shuts itself off. It may just be a software problem.


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