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Travis, you aren't the only one who has noticed that the rack is definitely moving around the field a bit more here. It only takes one person to spin the rack before each match at Buckeye, as opposed to the four we had in Pittsburgh. Is this rack missing something, or is it just getting worn down?

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1. 291 48 379
2. 548 1270 1317
3. 1126 1038 1528
4. 1756 378 158
5. 66 503 451
6. 1507 191 174
7. 537 70 494
8. 772 65 306


my thoughts:

1 v 8 - 3 matches
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5

1 v 5
2 v 3

3 v 5

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Quarter Finals:

1. 291 48 379 vs. 8. 772 65 306
2. 548 1270 1317 vs. 7. 537 70 494
3. 1126 1038 1528 vs. 6. 1507 191 174
4. 1756 378 158 vs. 5. 66 503 451

Semi Finals:

1. 291 48 379 vs. 5. 66 503 451
2. 548 1270 1317 vs. 3. 1126 1038 1528

Finals

1. 291 48 379 vs. 3. 1126 1038 1528

Winner: 1. 291 48 379

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At home regional chat:

chat1174754445162

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Quarter - Finals
Time Description Teams Red Score Blue Score
1:07 PM Qtr 1-1 48 379 291 65 306 772 40 43
1:16 PM Qtr 2-1 378 158 1766 451 66 503 64 50
1:25 PM Qtr 3-1 548 1317 1270 537 70 494 8 128
1:34 PM Qtr 4-1 1528 1126 1038 174 1507 191 124 8
1:41 PM Qtr 1-2 48 291 379 772 65 306 62 38
1:54 PM Qtr 2-2 1766 378 158 66 503 451 38 64
2:01 PM Qtr 3-2 1270 548 1676 70 494 537 8 118 70, 494, 537 Advances to Semi's.
2:08 PM Qtr 4-2 1038 1528 1126 1507 174 191 34 258
2:14 PM Qtr 1-3 48 379 291 5306 772 65 68 25 48, 379, 291 Advances To Semi's.
2:20 PM Qtr 2-3 378 1766 158 66 451 503 66 82 66, 451, 503 Advances To Semi's.
2:26 PM Qtr 4-3 1126 1528 1038 1507 191 174 84 68 1126, 1528, 1038 Advances to Semi's.

Semi - Finals
Time Description Teams Red Score Blue Score
2:45 PM Semi 1-1 291 48 379 451 66 503 76 2
2:52 PM Semi 2-1 537 70 494 1528 1126 1038 84 8
2:59 PM Semi 1-2 48 379 291 66 451 503 38 16 48, 379, 291 Advance to Finals
3:05 PM Semi 2-2 494 537 70 1038 1528 1126 36 52 RUBBER MATCH!
3:14 PM Semi 2-3 494 70 537 1126 1038 1528 68 80 1126, 1038, 1528 Advance To Finals!

Finals
Time Description Teams Red Score Blue Score
3:28 PM Final 1-1 48 291 379 1126 1528 1038 76 64
3:46 PM Final 1-2 291 379 48 1038 1528 1126 76 53

Winner:
291, 48, 379

Congrats!

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Wrong on one (the martians advanced, then got knocked out, instead of 548)..

48 WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: 2007 Buckeye Regional
 

YES!!

Congratulations to CIA, Delphi E.L.I.T.E., and Robocats on a great run through eliminations!

Congratulations to Sparx, Thunderhawks, and 1528 on their run too!

Now, we wait for video. :p

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My thoughts exactly

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I have to congratulate 48. I have always liked their robots and they have a great team too. They have been a great alliance partner to not just us, but also team 1114 in the past. every time ending up just shy of that gold. They definitely deserved this win. GREAT JOB BY 291 48 and 397!

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Awards have been posted.

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I'd like to thank Chief Delphi and the Robocats for being great alliance partners! We we're awesome together! See you all in Atlanta!:D

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Pssst........its Delphi E.L.I.T.E., not Chief Delphi. That's 47 :p

Anyway, its gonna be great seeing you all at nats!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!

P. S. Would anyone like to give a breakdown of your elimination matches, how they were played, etc. so we don't go crazy waiting for video? ;)

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Huge congrats to 48 on finally getting a regional win! See you in Mississauga.

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What team is Wyatt Newman (WFA winner) on?

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Good job 291, 48, 379.

You guys had a heck of an alliance and im glad we got to face you.
Our matches were fierce and even though we lost you guys were the better alliance. Grats to 66 aswell. didnt know you even submitted there.

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Man, what a Regional! Anyone that was not there to see the matches, especially the eliminations, missed out - find the video and check it out! Congratulations to 48 Delphi Elite, 291 the CIA, and the 379 Robocats - You guys ruled and exhibitted great teamwork! I'll throw a few choice pics up from Buckeye tonight for those of you who missed it...

I would also like to send a sincere thanks to 1126, the BEST hanger in the place, for picking us and to 1528 for playing D and giving us a lift on your massive ramps when we needed it most. We had a blast in your alliance and wish you guys the best of luck!

Hey 48, maybe we can "hang" with you guys in Atlanta! Good luck next weekend, be sure to check the battery and treads on a regular basis!

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1532.
He wasn't there to recieve his reward (he left to teach class) so a couple of his kids picked it up for him.

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Wow just wow.
537, thanks for picking both Martian teams. We loved playing with you guys. We played great up until the end. If anyone wants to see a cool autonomous mode, watch any of the matches that the three of us played, our turreted arms all rotated at the same time. Sparx and The Thunder Hawks, you guys are both great hangers, and 1528 was a good ramp as well. Congrats to the winners, CIA has a great hanger but what else would you expect, Delphi Elite is an AMAZING defensive robot with great ramps, and 379 played smart D and got up ramps easy. The playoffs were really good.

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I second that comment... But I must say, you do not know fear until you are against them and see a Martian holding a spoiler, with 20 seconds on the clock, with the rack covered in a dense collection of red and blue. I'm gonna have nightmares about that! You guys were awesome, there was nobody else in the place that could manipulate as well as you two!

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Yeah sounds like it was one of the best regionals so far...
Too bad it wasn't webcast... kinda like not showing the Daytona 500.
Eagerly awaiting the video! :D
I hear the social was pretty good too. :(

Oh well... theres always next year. I'll see yous there! :cool:

Congrats to 291, 48, 379 super job teams!

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Professor Newman mentors Team 1532 Case Western Reserve University and SuccessTech Academy

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Thanks for the kind words Dan. It was a pretty site watching those three robots arms fire up in unison. Hope someone can post video on this.

Thank you Team 537 for picking us and our sister team 494.

Congratulations to the winning alliance of 291, 48 and 379.

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The one match that will stay with me forever was Quarter final 4 match 2, the number 6 alliance scored all blue tubes on the entire bottom row, a red alliance team placed a spoiler on the reduce the tube count to 7. And in the last 10 seconds the X-CATS removed the spoiler to capture 8 in a row for a 258 score, the highest score of the regional. The last match was also a classic with the outcome decided by 1 tube.

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1126 and 1038 had already got on top of 1528 for their maximum score and that left us, 174 and 1507 free to score. Unfortunately all 3 teams went for the same spot and were fighting amongst themselves to score the last tube and basically used up all the time they had that no one had time to get the tube on.

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Coolest-looking autonomous I've seen all year, and there weren't even any keepers involved.

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wow that was a great regional to say the least. i am so proud of my alliance and my team! as an alliance we fought hard, adapted our strategy accordingly(such as 1507, 191, and 174 getting 8 on bottom, and when our amazing ramp and defense bot 1528 lost both their transmissions for the semis and finals)and did as well as we could! i am pleased by the way our 3 teams interacted! and congrats to my team on our design award!!! our first mechanical design award!!

Re: 2007 Buckeye Regional
 

174 was chosen by 1507 twice this year. haha.

Congrats everyone on your accomplishements.

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Following 9+ years of regional futility and 5 previous heart-wrenching experiences of coming up short in the finals, this thank you post is going to be extra special....:)

For Team 48, it was exciting enough to win our first regional event EVER in our 10 years of existence. To share in the experience with our good friends, the Girard Robocats of Team 379, who operate about 15 minutes down the road from us and had also never won a regional.....well, I'd be lying if I said I didn't shed a tear or two as the final score of Finals 2 was announced.

Now on to the thank you's....

1126, 1038, 1528 - Even though you were a bit crippled by technical difficulties, you still put up a great effort. Your offensive skills displayed earlier in the elims were a thing to behold. Congrats on your Finalist achievement.

Team 291 - Thank you so much to #1 seed CIA for having enough faith in us to make Team 48 their #1 pick. You stuck with us despite some intermittent issues we had to fight throughout qualifying. I am so happy our robot could perform reliably for our alliance throughout the eliminations. Even as I was focused on our robot's defensive efforts, every time I turned to look at our side of the field, there you were, reliably and quickly putting up the rows of ringers we needed to make our final 2 @ 12 count. You've got a great robot and a great team filled with even greater people. Congratulations on your #1 seed performance and 2nd regional victory!

Team 379 - You guys simply rock - your kids, your school and corporate mentors, everyone. What a great robot and a smart drive team - you guys seriously know how to play the role of offensive/defensive hybrid. Take it from a guy who loves "smart" team defense - you guys can flat out PLAY! Congratulations on winning your first ever Regional competition! This past year, I've had the distinct pleasure of getting to know you guys better via programming classes and participation in your summer robotics camps, and this behind the scenes look has opened my eyes to the inner workings of the wonderful program you run. It's a great feeling watching all our area teams come together as a more cohesive unit, and I can sense we're on the verge of creating something truly special within our community. With Congressman Tim Ryan's help, I get the feeling FIRST is about to explode throughout the Mahoning Valley.

John, Dave, and Trevor - 48's Drive Team - You guys just absolutely floor me with the great skill, teamwork, and communication you display when working with our alliance partners, and I continue to love the fact you play the "right" kind of defense - the gentle yet massively frustrating for the opposition kind! :D Johnny - quite a driving performance from you in your first two events ever - Finalist and Champion? Not too shabby, rookie. Keep it up!

Team 48 Design and Build Teams - It may not be the most polished or complex robot out there, but it gets the job done. Kudos to you for pursuing a KISS design and helping it take shape out on the field. Keep up the good work!

Alliance Field Pit Crews - Great work keeping those machines running throughout the elims! Special kudos to long-time mentor George Lazar and alumnus Scott Rose for working with the drive team and the people back in the pits to keep all our bases covered.

Team 48 Collegiate Mentors - Thanks to the 10+ Team 48 alumni and Collegiate mentors for supporting the team at the Buckeye Regional, and to the many others back at home who couldn't make it out. As the number of Delphi mentors continues to grow smaller, our Collegiate Mentor Association has stepped up in a huge way, supporting almost every aspect of team operations. We owe a great deal of success to your efforts. Thank you all for your continued commitment, love, and support of Delphi E.L.I.T.E.

Chris Neifer - Chris has been Team 48's drive team coach since the beginning. Ask people like Karthik, and they'll tell you Chris is one of the best strategists in all of FIRST. He deserves a lot of the credit for guiding the team throughout the competition. Chris is close to retiring from the team to take on bigger responsibilities within his school district. I'm glad everything finally came together for us at Buckeye before he moves on.

Team 2010 - The Lightning Bots - Our "little brother" rookie team in Champion, OH, these guys have put together 2 very solid events in their rookie campaign, earning the Pittsburgh Rookie All-Star and the Highest Rookie Seed Award at Buckeye. Many of the mentors are veterans with experience from their days on Team 48, but the kids and school are rookies in the truest sense, and I'm very proud of all of them for enthusiasticly embracing the FIRST program and its goals. They are already positioned to share the lead with 48 and 379 as we work to expand FIRST in our community. They've also earned a trip to Atlanta, so everyone look out for them if they're in your division.

Team 1038 - Dang you guys are nice. You're just the friendliest and most helpful people you'd ever want to meet. Oh yeah, your robot kicks butt too! It's been really fun spending so much time together at Pittsburgh and Buckeye - I'm sure you're going to rock Atlanta's world once you get down to the Championship.

Team 276 - The Chaney Mad Cows are a persistent, hard working bunch, and they've been a part of our community for quite some time now. I'm looking forward to having them as a partner as the already established local teams seek to bring FIRST to more area schools (we already have interest for another rookie team next year).

Ken Patton and Team 65 - Great robot and great team! It's always a pleasure being at a regional with Ken - one of the best and most approachable mentors in FIRST. You guys gave us our greatest scare in the elims. You can definitely hang under duress. And don't worry - your team's secret is safe with me. I look forward to the day you let everyone in on it. ;)

Team 66 - Congrats on a well-earned Chairman's Award victory!

Team 1714 - Congrats on your Engineering Inspiration Award! So good at such a young age. And you battery charging station absolutely pwns.

Team 839 - Bungee cords for the win.

Buckeye Participants - Thanks for showing the world (once Ed posts the videos ;) ) that the Buckeye Regional ranks right up there with the best of them.

Buckeye Volunteers - Great venue + many great volunteers + outstanding referees and judges + awesome MC and announcer + a lot of hard work and preparation + AWESOME IFI SUPPORT + NO FIELD FAILURES = great time for all involved!

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:eek:

That statement is sort of shocking considering how great your robot was this year, not to mention how great your team is overall...

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

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Buckeye was by teh best regional I've ever seen, I'm so glad I got to see it. The matches were intense and I loved every minute I could spend watching them.

Thank you to the volunteers! The announcer was great, and everything was ran right on time.

Congratulations to all award-winning teams, with special congrats to 2031, the Rookie Inspiration award winner. Keep at it, guys, and you'll do great.

JH

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That was gentle? Man, I would hate to see your aggressive defense...:yikes: 'Course, you come at the Fearless Thunderhawks too hard, we'll just flip ya! Congrats again, Travis - the pics will be in the mail in the next few days...

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Congratulations Team 48 - Team 191 had a very similar experience back in 2005 winning our very first Regional in 13 years. We've always been one of the top competitors but just never been able to capitalize. We were ecstatic to win the Inaugural Finger Lakes Regional in our home town.

So definitely bask in the success - it's alot tougher these days.

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Yes, a big congratulations is in order to 48 and 379 for their first ever regional wins. With the strong robots that the two teams build (48 comes to mind especially), it has really been a long time coming. On a somewhat related note, 125 also had their first ever regional victory this weekend in Boston (this is their 10th year in competition).

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Don't you guys have a national championship?

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Yes. I never said we didn't win on that stage, I said that 125 had never won a regional.

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As does 48.

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"Gentle" being a relative term. Can a team be "gently aggressive"? I'd like to think so. Taking someone for a nice leisurely unintentional stroll across the field, pushing them on the corners to spin them around, or slowing down significantly before contacting other robots is far gentler than backing up 2+ robot lengths away and plowing full speed into the side of someone...repeatedly. Sadly, I see the latter style employed far too often.

This works for offense too - teams can certainly be "gently aggressive" as they wiggle and fight their way into scoring position against defensive pressure.

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I'm pretty certain 48 won the 1999 Championship @ Disney by sitting back and watching 176 and 1 work their magic in every single elimination round match. I believe our coach Chris Neifer lent his strategizing skills to the effort, but that was about it. This is based upon one veteran account. This was two years before I joined the team, so I have to rely upon witness accounts of the elimination matches for my information. If anyone else can recall the specific details of those elims, feel free to PM me. I'd like to learn more about this portion of our team's history, especially from other teams' perspectives.

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They were playing nice there. Just look back at some of the defense 1038 pulled in 2004 if you want an example of not-so-nice defense.

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Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...... Screeeeeeech, let's stop this truck before it gains too much speed.

1. If you are holding a grudge against your team for something that purportedly happened years ago, I invite you to PM the team and communicate with them privately.
2. 1038 competed with the utmost of class and skill at both regionals we've attended. Both as partners and as opponents, they've been absolutely wonderful to work with.
3. Please don't use this thread (or any thread) as a place to mention specific teams committing specific examples of "not-so-nice" defense. We know they still unfortunately occur from time to time, but this is not the place to single teams out. Please handle each indiviual matter discreetly and directly with the parties involved. I've been known to let my emotions get the better of me at times at events, and I sometimes deeply regret saying things in public that are better left for more private conversations....

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming....

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can someone plz explain what koko ed meant by 63 being pulled from the competition? They got a yellow card during the seeding matches, but other than that i didnt see anything else that happened to them. BTW, whats up witht he yellow cards at buckeye, i didnt see any yellows before then, and then there was 2 almost right after each other.

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I know one involved a human player reaching through the tube chute in frustration to remove a stuck ringer from their arm (team number intentionally suppressed). The refs handled that well, I thought.

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Team 63 played was scheduled to play with us (1714) in our last match on Friday (1714). We knew they had a yellow card from the field (for aggressive play I believe?), but when we went to strategize with them, they told us they had received a second yellow card after two random inspections and had been booted from the competition. There seemed to be a lot of confusion in and around their pit. Their robot was a double lifter robot that stayed folded up. If something got bent and was out of place for a few matches in the starting configuration, thats one thing. I didn't see too many places that robot could be bent though. They had passed inspection and I'm not sure what the random inspections were being used to check.

After they told us they were out, we prepared for a 2v3 match. When we were out on the field queuing, they came out with 2 matches to go and said they were being allowed to play, but weren't entirely sure what was going on. They played with us and played excellent defense to get us a win.

The next morning they played with my other team, 1675, and everything seemed to be well.

Thats all I know of the situation, and its just from an outsider's brief point of view....so I have no idea if any of that is accurate.

Kev

Re: 2007 Buckeye Regional
 

This happened at Midwest as well, but to my knowledge, no yellow card was issued. Which ruling is correct?

Kev

Re: 2007 Buckeye Regional
 

I apologize for the triple post, but its three separate issues.

I am concerned with the field at Buckeye. People have noticed that the rack was easier to move than at other events. I'm not sure what could cause this, since that thing is quite heavy. Not a big deal though. What does concern me was how it was set up. The base plate was not placed correctly, which dictates where the chains are supposed to sit (between the black tape on the edges of the plate). Because the plate was placed 45 degrees from where it should be, the rack, when properly placed based on the chains, was 45 degrees off of normal position. This has no effect for normal gameplay, but for autonomous, it puts the lights at the "corners" instead of parallel with the sides of the field. There were matches when the lights did face the sides, so the chains were not being paid attention to anyway.

The other concern is the fact that the bonus points were measured with a tape measure instead of the stick that FIRST provides and 4" and 12" pieces that I believe the event may provide. In this application, where the tape may be held at an angle or may be viewed at an angle, it is not an accurate way to measure. I have no idea if this affected the outcome of any matches, but it strikes me as odd that it even occurred.

Kev

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I noticed this aswell, i wasnt sure if it was just me or not. Also, the refs do not spin the rack after every match, this was the case at GLR aswell. it only moved maybe half of the time during the elims.

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Is there anyone from 63 who can fill us in on what really went down?

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I just wanted to say that buckeye was amazing!!!!
i wanted to say congrats to the winning alliance. You were a great alliance to compete against!!!

To 1528 and 1038-AWESOME job. with 1528 not working throught the finals we still put up a great fight!!! Both of your teams were great to work with!!!

Great job to all the other teams as well.

X-cats-great job!! You are a strong bot this year!!! hopefully we can compete with/against you in atl. and if not...GOOD LUCK!!! :D

GOOD LUCK TO ALL TEAMS GOING TO ATLANTA!!!:yikes:

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They are both correct. Some rules allow for yellow cards to be added for repeated and/or egregious breaking of the rule. The specifics of each situation likely made the diffrence in one getting a yellow card.

Wetzel

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Courtney I wish someday we can actually have all 3 Xerox teams on the same alliance for once. We've never ever been paired up - not even once. (Not even during the Ruckus...Maybe we should just have a FF match at the Ruckus this year)

Well in my mind we're all in the same family anyways - 1126 and 1450 all had mentors that came from 191 anyways. I helped start both teams so I'm partial even though I am on 191. But then again I have a little tie with most teams in Rochester somehow. That's what I love about Rochester First teams...we're relatively a tight group of teams.

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This is a match from the quarter finals at the Buckeye. This is one of the many matches with heavy defense. I have been in the Buckeye the last 5 years and anybody who has been to the Buckeye knows that its one of the defensive regionals. Heres the match that I liked out of all of them. We had a defensive strategy and we had robots on top of us and we took a couple shots to the arm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqS73j2-L0