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I just did a major upgrade (skipped a lot of versions, had to re-write a lot).

Things may be missing, broken, or work differently. Some of them shouldn't work differently. If you see something not working like it used to, let me know and I'll fix it .. or tell you why it works that way.

Known Issues:
1) Spell check is gone. It may come back. Then again .. newer browsers / operating systems have spell check built in, so it may not come back.

2) the 'new posts' menu up top -- the subscribed forums searches aren't implemented yet.

3) The UFH and WFA images that show up by peoples avatar aren't working yet.

4) The list of reputation you've given is missing -- it will return.

Let me know if you find any others.

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Is there a reason the page is fixed width?

If so, will the option to have it be fullscreen be added?

I remember there was a debate about this a year or two ago. It seems time has not changed anything, and I'm still resistant to change, because it looks quite weird to me. :p

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Option exists just isn't being taken into account -- it's just a bug. I'll fix.

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I'm seeing some restricted forum threads on the portal that I shouldn't be seeing, e.g., the Moderator Forum.

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This should be fixed now.

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All of the whoami's are gone! Brandon, did I break CD again? ;)

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Yay! CD is alive again!

The team, team name, team role, and AKA are gone.

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Should be good.

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Before I signed on, the thread display mode defaulted to Threaded Mode. I think outside visitors may not be familiar with that and won't realize how to read the thread...one of the other modes would be better for default.

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Ok, I can live without my WAI picture, but I do miss the birthday cake;)

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When I was in CD Media and clicked on the "Private Messages" link in the top right box in the page header, it brought me to this [nonexistent] page:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/private.php

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Birthday cake: check.

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check.

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Sort of minuscule but I don't have the rep bars on the same line as the post count.


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Events attending is missing

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Sorting members by team role, team number and competition.

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there it is! (minus 50 candles :) )

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When I went to "New activity sense last visit, it showed stuff from last week, even though I was on last night. Also when I tried it when I first logged on this thread was on the list, but when I tried it a minute ago it wasn't.

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huh?

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Another thing I've noticed is missing: Rookie years.

(And I still don't see WAIs.) Now I just see it for everyone but me!

And the events listing below the signature aren't showing up for me

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There were major updates to the way vBulletin keeps track of what posts you've seen or not.

Before -- you had 15 minutes of inactivity and then it figured you read them all.

Now -- you have to read them all (or mark them read) before they'll fall off the 'new posts' lists. I think it is great because during the season, I can come on .. read 2-3 posts .. come back 3 hours later .. and not miss 400 threads.

The first time you come to this new version, it may look weird. Once you view all posts or a day or two goes by, it should all start to look good again.

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The post times are all showing as relative (e.g. "4 minutes ago") instead of showing the actual time.

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We've misplaced "View reputation given" in the UserCP or I can't find it.

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Brandon already mentioned it:

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They'll return--it was earlier in the thread.

Two more things I'm noticing:

1) On rep clicks I've received, some of the thread names are truncated while others aren't.

2) Not so much a bug as a feature, but is there a way to sort of enable the way threads used to show in new post searches, where recently-read threads would stay in the list?

3) I tried to quote Madison's post in mine, and clicked the quote button that turned orange. I don't see the quote.

4) Maybe I'm blind, but I can't seem to find the "Shush forums, I really did read those 256 threads so take them off my new posts" button.

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Its for quoteig multiple posts like I did in reply to M.Krass about her comment about the reputation. If you click multiple of them and then click Post Reply at the bottom it will quote all posts. It works the same way with just one.

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I still don't see the WAI pics in the threads.

But for something thats cool, i like the new goto page option in the lower right.

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Probably a feature in the new vb .. it'll be addressed when i add the reputation list enhancements back in.

they should .. and if not, you can go to 'new posts' menu and go to the past 24 hours lists ..

as michelle said .. you can quote multiple posts now. click the ' " ' icons, then hit 'quote' on one of em, i think. i havent quite mastered that new feature yet, either. ;)

'quick links' -> 'mark forums read'

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Any chance of you adding some "issues" such as forcing dave to explain all of his posts:D

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Who's Online shows all the recent spiders as well as humans.

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I'm pretty sure that it has always done that.
Update: (This is a thread that shows that it has).
But not knowing is half the fun. :D

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I think there is something wrong with the birthdays, because there was more than 3 this morning and now it is only displaying 3 but when you click the birthday cake next to where it lists them, you can view all of them.

About the multi-quote when you click the quote buttons, it will arrange the quotes in the order that you click them, not in chronological order. Just thought I'd explain that before someone asked.

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Didn't it always do that?

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One more quirk: I can't list the members of hidden forums (like NEMO). The list of hidden groups is there, I can see the groups, but nothing happens when I click the name.

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Feature -

Birthdays and # of users, and such, will now only show people who have been active.

I've set it to 182 days (approx 6 mo ..)

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After reading a thread or posting in that thread it still shows unread.

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Ah, forgot to upgrade that page .. should be ok now.

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Clear your cookies, log out, log in, (when you're ready) 'mark forums read'.

It may be a stale cookie / upgrade issue.

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Yeah, I was just testing that new feature out.
It isn't very useful, so I put it back.

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Ok, after spending 6 hours upgrading .. I need a break.

Here is the issue list .. anything else I don't know about.
Please re-post any I have missed, and be as detailed as possible.
I'll get to the rest of these tomorrow morning.

1) Spell check is gone. It may come back. Then again .. newer browsers / operating systems have spell check built in, so it may not come back.

2) the 'new posts' menu up top -- the subscribed forums searches aren't implemented yet.

3) The UFH and WFA images that show up by peoples avatar aren't working yet.

4) The list of reputation you've given in the user cp is missing -- it will return.

5) Who Am I and CD-Event attendance listings on everybodies posts are being 'weird'.

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Brandon,

I'll keep a running list in this post of things that people post after me, just to try and keep it all in one place. Hope that helps.

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Nothing worse than stale cookies. Yes Firefox 2.0 does have built in spell checker. Thanks

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I've been logging in on machines other than my iBook, and I'm finding that I'm getting logged out quicker. Like just a couple of minutes of inactivity instead of the fifteenish of the olden days.

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The actual Posts dont say today anymore, they just read 12-9-06

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I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet (Yes, I did search the thread) but, it apears that the "reply" button in the reputation area (in user CP) is gone.

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Thanks for all the hard work Brandon

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Agreed!

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I think what he means is that it used to say something like
Currently Active Users: 296 (47 members, 70 guests... and 179 spiders)
Now it says something like
Currently Active Users: 306 (111 users and 195 guests)

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I agree.
Keep it up Brandon.

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Also, why do I keep on getting randomly logged out of CD? This happened before the upgrade, but it has always annoyed me, especialy when I try to post and it asks me to log in again. Is it something I'm doing that I don't know about, or is it some sort of error? Any chance of it stopping?

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Try checking your browsers setting for cache. Also, there is an edit button on each of your posts (that is there for about a 24 hours after the post is created) which may come in handy, and help control the amount of posts on Chief Delphi.

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Thanks.
Oh Yeah, forgot about that :D
Sorry.

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Brandon...you are amazing... You need a looooooong vacation...to somewhere with no computers and code...somewhere where you can just laze around for a few days.

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Brandon the Button i used to press that shouted BIG MIKE ROCKS is gone... I think that it should be brought back

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I don't know if this is on purpose... but you can no longer upload an animated GIF as an avatar. If this is on purpose, would you like me to change mine to a non-animated image?

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When I changed it back from the super-general "2 weeks ago, 1 day ago, etc." I went too far. "today / yesterday" is back now.

Thats part of the whole usercp reputation fix that has yet to happen.

Ah yes -- I'll have to see how easy that is to write a plugin to accomplish it.

Weird. 15 minutes is the normal logout if you don't click 'Remember me' when logging in. Try clearing your cookies & cache .. see if that helps anything.

It wasn't intentional. Are you sure it isn't just the image you're trying to upload? If you can't get it .. e-mail it to me and I'll give it a shot (or fix whats wrong with it ..).

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I've installed a plugin that shows the last reputation given in your user cp. It is a temporary fix until I write a plugin that works like it used to (multi-paged, with an option to PM them).

-Brandon

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I thought working on CD was a vacation for Brandon. :cool:

Keep up the good work.

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Great work, Brandon!

The only thing I've noticed is the 200 pixel limiter on signatures isn't working.

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One quirk I've discovered: When you have a new posts search (and possibly other searches) that have no results, you get the header (which is an awesome addition), but neither Spotlights nor the event countdowns show at the top. The place exists for them (the [more] links show), but the actual data doesn't show.

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One thing that I noticed: if I'm not logged in, when I click search and type in my querry, it directs me to advanced search and makes me type in the letters and numbers in a box for verification. Not sure if this is on purpose or not.

Nitpicky: When I try to give reputation it automatically selects the "neutral" and "I approve" buttons.

Thanks for all the hard work!

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Links don't open in a new window.

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Yeah, I'll have to see how I can detect when it's an error and not show those things. It doesn't run the data to put in that stuff until it starts composing a page.

Hmm .. the CSS is there. I'll have to play with it and figure out why its not working.

Yeah, this is to prevent bad things from happening by automated bots. People can really kill a server by automating an attack by searching a whole bunch of times. The captcha, although not completely effective, will slow it down a bit.

Typo -- should be fixed.

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And one more I noticed: Threads get marked as read on the new posts search, but then come back as unread on the recent threads part of the portal.

Edit: Also, when I suggest a spotlight, it takes me back to the spotlight nomination page instead of back to the post.

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It's not that important, but when you click the "Preview Post" button, there is no longer a "Submit Reply" button under the preview. It's still down where you type, so it's not a big problem.

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That could be an "anti-spam" feature that helps to keep what little spam bots roaming CD from posting in every thread that is listed as "previous".

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Brandon,

It's not an issue... but the fortune cookie thing that you get when you give someone rep is a little creepy...

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You know, I tried this and I have to agree that it's a little odd. Is it supposed to be sarcasm or something else? :confused:

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some times peoples signitures get cut off
I reference this post

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That's done purposefully. Signatures are limited to no taller than 200px.

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Not too important, but the "Rookie Year" that used to be next to Join Date for each person has disappeared.

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Replies to continuing discussion of photographs appears to be moderated.

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when inserting a hyperlink it no longer gives you the prompt for "text to be formatted"

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The upgrade seems to be preventing Dave Lavery from dropping any more hints. Might be a database problem?

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Large images seem to overflow the usual margins on the side, making one post wider than the rest. This is hard for me describe exactly in words, so please look at the difference in width of post number 4 is compared to post number 5.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=50318

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They look identical to me.

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My computer has a wide window; I might be the only one to see it. Can anyone verify this?

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Are you using 100% page width? No clue if it makes a difference, but that's what I'm using. could be that the image defaults to the native size, which would be larger than the width of the page if you're not using 100% width.

[edit] I just changed my setting to 980px and I see what you describe. Works fine at 100%.

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It's way bigger to me too. I think it was like that before though...

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Hmm. One way that does work is to type the text, highlight it, and then click the hyperlink icon.

Dang, I had hoped I fixed that.

There's nothing much i can do other than say .. "dont upload huge pictures!" ;)

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When viewing a topic that has stemmed from an image that that was uploaded to CD Media: If you click on the image it doesn't bring you to the picture as it was uploaded to CD media but just the CD media main page. Or maybe its just this one picture.

I still haven't figured out how to get the new spotlighting to work. To test if it was a glitch I went back to one of the old 1999 archived posts and took a random blurb and tried to spot light it. It said its already been done and to check the list.

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When viewing pictures in CD-Media the little arrow next to "new posts", "search" and "quick links" buttons disappears.

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Should be fixed now.

The issue was with old pre-CD-Media pictures being redirected from the old system to CD-Media. Should be fixed.

Hm. It should be working now. Try a brand spankin' new post and see if that works. Don't worry -- we can always delete it after you've tested.

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This should be fixed now.
(thanks to Michelle Celio for help testing)

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This may not be too major, but when I read some PMs it didn't ask to send a read receipt.

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I think I just broke the whitepapers.

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The "new posts" list never gets any smaller. (approx 285 new threads for me this morning.)

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I had just click on the CD media button and the page was loading and the pop up message telling me I had a private message appeared. I said I wanted to view the message in a new window. The new window came up but instead of being my private message inbox, CD Media came up. I thought maybe someone gave me CD media for my Birthday but I saw up at the top it said one unread message.

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Hrm. Are you reading the threads, or are you not viewing them?

They won't go away until you either read them, or mark forums as read.

(BTW, you can mark individual forums read on their individual forum listing page, under 'Forum Tools')

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Should be fixed now.

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That would be fine and dandy (not really), but the entering of the 6 digits/characters does not even work.

Search-pwnd.. :(

I'm glad I'm not the only one with the problem.

Also, searching CD-Media still returns doubles of the same pictures many times. What's up with that?
I know that was an issue before the upgrade btw.

Al, scroll through the pages. You should see a huge banner saying "The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts."

They still show up when u log in, and don't dissapear like before.
idk if I like that yet.

Also, is there an override feature to disable MultiQuote?
(Hopefully it will disable if I log out and then back in)

I hit the button to do it.. not knowing how it works..and now everytime I go to do a regular quote on this thread, it brings up the one I hit multiquote on.. (one of Brandon's) as well as the normal quote. (Al's in this case).
And I have nooooo idea what page that is on to go back and turn it off.

I can see it being a cool feature. no doubt, but it just needs an override.
Edit: It cancels out and goes back to normal when you log out of CD and back in.. but who wants to do that?!?!? lol

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Works for me. It's case sensitive -- hit 'refresh image' if you can't read the one you're given.

yeah. it was an existing issue -- itll be fixed eventually.



The 'mark as read' will make them disappear.

Quote:

Also, is there an override feature to disable MultiQuote?

This feature gives you the ability to quote anything on the site -- different threads, posts, etc. There probably is a way to clear them out ... I'm not sure, exactly. It's not required, however, if you want to just quote one thing, and once you do reply, it should clear out. So worst case, reply .. clear out the unwanted multi-quotes, and then type your reply.

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I tried searching today while I was not logged in from the drop down box, and it didn't give me the option to do the image thing (not that it would fit in there..), but once I searched it brought me to the advanced page where I had to enter it. Is the image entering really necessary? It sort of makes finding information quickly a little more difficult. (We're not so posted to use forums in school, so it's got to be an on and off real quick thing)

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Maybe this has been discussed, but:
After I view (read?) a thread, its still shown as as new (bold face) in the portal.

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Yeah, same here. I do see the "these threads have not been updated but contain unread posts" bar thing, and if I "mark forums read" the new post list clears out just fine. But the thing is, I never had to do this before the upgrade. The new posts list would clear out on its own, by cookies or something. I never had to "mark forums read." Is there some way we can have an option to go back to that?

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I tried to give someone rep, clicked the rep icon, and in the window that popped up, I clicked positive, then decided I'd rather give neutral rep and neutral wouldn't select. I clicked it, but it kept deselecting itself, so none of the option buttons were checked.

JBot

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I (and many people I've talked to) prefer this way, because if you don't have time to read everything, you can come back and the unread posts still are unread.

It's either the old way or this way -- there won't be a per-user setting.

This way .. "uses the database to store thread and forum read times. This allows accurate read markers to be kept indefinitely. The forums are automatically marked as read when the last new thread is read."

Would it make it easier if there were a button right on the portal that marked them read (save a click?). I could add that when I add in the proper handling of this new method of read vs unread. I will be adding in that bold 'These posts are not new, but still contain unread ...' line on the portal, too.

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Interesting. What browser were you using?

I've fixed a minor issue with the neutral box -- test it out and see if it works now.

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Not so much for the saved click as the obviousness (I wouldn't have thought to look under quick links), but I could go for that.

Alternatively, what about under the Private Message line in the upper-right corner of the page? There seems to be plenty of real estate there (although some javascript "Are you sure?" box might be in order if it's that accessible).

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i liked the old way too, if i had been gone for a few days i could see all activity since i last logged in and i would read the ones that i wanted to read and that was it and they would stay there for a little while to i liked that. i dont like having to mark them all read cause i cant go back to ones that i want to as easily

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That space has other things in it that the normal user can't see (CD-Media, Spotlight, and other pending approvals). It also has some kind of warning about full PM box, and other things.

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Here's a vote for the new system. I don't always have time to read all the way through the new posts in CD when I get on. If I got called away for more than just a few minutes, under the old way it would say, "You've been logged in, so you must have read everything. Here's a new 'last visited' time." No, I really only got to read 5 threads, and I wanted to know which other threads had new stuff.

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Am I the only one who doesn't get the whole CD-saves-posts-you-haven't-read-as-new-til-forever thing? Every time I leave and come back, all the posts I haven't read are marked as read (just like it used to be). I've cleared my cache and cookies, logged out and back in, and I still don't see this.