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Ellery 02-03-2007 00:19
Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..
 
I've recorded and encoded the FLR for the first 2 years and it's definitely takes alot of time to do. So unless there's a dedicated process, as SOAP does so well, than it can be done real time but unfortunately I don't think any of the volunteers thus far will have the bandwidth to do it that quickly. The feed we get is typically normal rca or coax I believe.

But This is a great showing to get things standardized - Great Job Joel for initiating this activity. I'll see you next week at FLR!

Ellery

David55 02-03-2007 02:00
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This year I will be recording the GM/Technion Israeli regional. Unless we are able to arrange for someone to sit there with a computer and do the cuts on the spot, I will have to find someone to edit the long stream into individual matches (it is a very time consuming process, which is why I didn't finish it last year).

I was also wondering what programs and connections I would need for someone to get the feed on a computer and do the cuts on the spot.

Doug G 02-03-2007 03:20
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I'll take care of the Davis/Sac Regional.

soap108 02-03-2007 22:47
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I wish our team could speak with every regional director and inspire them to provide a volunteer for making a LiVE archive. Granted we teams benefit immensely, but there are other applications for the video.

My personal commitment is to reach out to NYC and LongIsland next year. (I'm moving to Brooklyn). The Boston committee already 'got the message' - they've given us a personal invite to be there, two years in a row.

I'm glad Joel J. has gotten promises from so many of you. I have given him an ftp user/pass to our movie server. If your name is on his list (in this thread) he should be sending you the info soon. If not, please PM me asap.

Regards,
KA-108 :cool:

soap108 02-03-2007 22:50
Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellery (Post 588607)
...So unless there's a dedicated process, as SOAP does so well, ....
The feed we get is typically normal rca or coax I believe...
Ellery

At Championship, please stop by the SOAP Table, behind Einstein, and chat with Mike Sansone fom Motorola. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to provide "training" and feedback. Careful, he may even put you to work!

RCA is pretty much the standard at all events.

KA-108

Jonathan Norris 02-03-2007 22:52
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It was very interesting today at BAE, Dean and a Google executive (who is running YouTube now), gave a speech where they said they wanted every single match this year recorded and posted on the internet. The YouTube person explained exactly how he wants it uploaded to YouTube and tagged. This is great, Dean said what we are doing here is the next step in his homework for us! Thank you to everyone recording and uploading video! :D

soap108 02-03-2007 22:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Kolodziej (Post 587772)
Here is what I am planning for Wisconsin:

Recording to 4-5 VHS tapes
After event, hooking up to my Dazzle Capture device and doing real time parsing (can I have the week off of work!?!?), saving files as mpeg-2 in low quality (320x240) - 25mb ish per match.
Putting all parsed video onto a DVD and sending it to SOAP....WHERE? Can someone from SOAP PM me with an address? I don't mind sending it overnight to get it there to it can be up ASAP.

If my laptop isn't needed at the competition, I may directly capture with the Dazzle, and then figure out how to parse later.

Either way, Its either going to be done within a week, or not until after all the regionals are done (going to WI, IN, OH, and WM). My guess is people want these BEFORE Atlanta :D
Technology has advanced and, if at all possible, please try to acquire this device which handles 720x480. - http://soap.circuitrunners.com/2006/O38-1022inset.jpg

The baseline encoder config file for Windows Media Encoder is there also - http://soap.circuitrunners.com/2006/2006.wme
Remember to change the metadata to 2007! ;)

When you're ready we can make an ftp dropfolder for you, or reply with a postal address.

KA-108

Joel J 03-03-2007 00:56
Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by David55 (Post 588625)
This year I will be recording the GM/Technion Israeli regional. Unless we are able to arrange for someone to sit there with a computer and do the cuts on the spot, I will have to find someone to edit the long stream into individual matches (it is a very time consuming process, which is why I didn't finish it last year).

I was also wondering what programs and connections I would need for someone to get the feed on a computer and do the cuts on the spot.
I think you have to ask SOAP this question.

Joel J 03-03-2007 01:03
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Code:
BAE SYSTEMS Granite State Regional        - J. Norris (record/parse)
NASA / VCU Regional                        - Rob2713g (record), chris31 (record)
New Jersey Regional                        - Alex Burman (record/parse)
Pacific Northwest Regional                - M. Krass (record/parse)
St. Louis Regional                        - Dave Flowerday (record/parse), hill (record)
Arizona Regional                        - Donut (record/parse)
Bayou Regional                                - DeepWater (record)
Brazilian Pilot                        - Manoel (record/parse)
Finger Lakes Regional                        - Koko Ed (record), Ellery (parse)
Florida Regional                        - SOAP (record/parse)
Great Lakes Regional                        - SAV1337 (record/parse)
Los Angeles Regional                        - ay2b (record)
Pittsburgh Regional                        - Noah K. (record)
Wisconsin Regional                        - Kevin K (record/parse)
Boilermaker Regional                        - Mike AA (record/parse)
Chesapeake Regional                        - Alex Burman(record)
Detroit Regional                        -
Greater Kansas City Regional                -
Midwest Regional                        - Dave Flowerday (record/parse)
Peachtree Regional                        -
Silicon Valley Regional                - M. Krass (record/parse)
UTC Connecticut Regional                -
New York City Regional                        - Noah K.(record)
Boston Regional                        - SOAP (record/parse)
Buckeye Regional                        - Koko Ed (record), Ellery (parse)
San Diego Regional                        - ay2b (record)
Waterloo Regional                        - J. Norris (record/parse), SAV1337 (record)
GM/Technion Israel Regional                - David55 (record)
Colorado Regional                        -
Davis Sacramento Regional                - Doug G (record/parse)
Greater Toronto Regional                - J. Norris (record/parse), SAV1337(record)
Las Vegas Regional                        - SOAP(record/parse)
Lone Star Regional                        -
Palmetto Regional                        -
Philadelphia Regional                        -
SBPLI Long Island Regional                -
West Michigan Regional                        - Mike AA (record/parse), Dave Flowerday (record/parse)

Madison 04-03-2007 16:38
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We've got about 200GB of raw video from PNW, including most of Thursday's practice matches and all of Friday and Saturday. We'll try to get it compressed and split into more manageable chunks as soon as we can.

soap108 05-03-2007 01:19
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IMPORTANT


When you go to encode in Windows Media Encoder, please select the option 'Deinterlace'. It is found in Properties -> Processing Tab.
This helps eliminate "liney" video when objects move rapidly.

Also, turn on Indexing.

See http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/2007.wme

Thanks,
KA-108 :cool:

Petey 05-03-2007 02:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel J. (Post 541544)
Ah.. so YouTube or Google video would be good as a complement, but should not be used as the main repository for storing all the regional video.
Why not?

I've read through the thread and I've come to a strikingly different conclusion.

Now, I've uploaded over 80 gigs of raw DV content to Google Video. It's not YouTube, in that it doesn't have the social networking content. Teams will still, I imagine, want to upload individual matches or team highlights onto YouTube. Certainly Dean's speech at BAE. We recorded, on our own, all of our matches, and will likely put that on YouTube.

However, Team 1073 also grabbed video from BAE GSR, straight from the feed. I plan on ripping that video to mpeg at 5120 kbps and uploading it directly to Google Video. They don't put a limit on what you can put up, so why not upload an entire video of comp? The whole flippin' thing?

People could search "Granite State Regional 2007" and watch the entire competition. You can, of course, chapter it by match.

If teams want to host it on their own space, that's fine. It's silly, however, to talk about paying people great sums of money to do what Google will do more reliably and for free.

A more important question that I have not seen addressed:

Does anyone know the legality of disseminating FIRST's official video from the different regionals? I heard a rumor BAE was telling people to not give out the video. Is this accurate?

Joel J 05-03-2007 18:36
Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Petey (Post 590725)
Why not?

I've read through the thread and I've come to a strikingly different conclusion.

Now, I've uploaded over 80 gigs of raw DV content to Google Video. It's not YouTube, in that it doesn't have the social networking content. Teams will still, I imagine, want to upload individual matches or team highlights onto YouTube. Certainly Dean's speech at BAE. We recorded, on our own, all of our matches, and will likely put that on YouTube.

However, Team 1073 also grabbed video from BAE GSR, straight from the feed. I plan on ripping that video to mpeg at 5120 kbps and uploading it directly to Google Video. They don't put a limit on what you can put up, so why not upload an entire video of comp? The whole flippin' thing?

People could search "Granite State Regional 2007" and watch the entire competition. You can, of course, chapter it by match.

If teams want to host it on their own space, that's fine. It's silly, however, to talk about paying people great sums of money to do what Google will do more reliably and for free.

A more important question that I have not seen addressed:

Does anyone know the legality of disseminating FIRST's official video from the different regionals? I heard a rumor BAE was telling people to not give out the video. Is this accurate?
Hosting for these videos is being donated, AFAIK.

Jonathan Norris 05-03-2007 23:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 591541)
Anyone uploading video to YouTube please watch this video from BAE. A representatives from Google came on to the field and explained exactly how he wants us to tag our video's in order to get maximum publicity on YouTube:

http://soap.circuitrunners.com/2007/...nh_youtube.wmv

SOAP is a great service for people involved in FIRST, but so can YouTube. Lets use YouTube to promote FIRST and get more eyes on to the great competition we have here.
I thought I should bring this discussion over here too. Watch the video and you will see how much Google is trying to help us, lets all spend the time to upload the video to YouTube as well as SOAP so we can get more publicity for FIRST. SOAP is perfect for our more 'internal' uses, but its not ideal as a publicity tool. This is where YouTube comes in, there are millions of users of there, many of whom will stumble upon our great competition.

artdutra04 05-03-2007 23:42
Re: Coordinated Regional Video Archiving..
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 591543)
I thought I should bring this discussion over here too. Watch the video and you will see how much Google is trying to help us, lets all spend the time to upload the video to YouTube as well as SOAP so we can get more publicity for FIRST. SOAP is perfect for our more 'internal' uses, but its not ideal as a publicity tool. This is where YouTube comes in, there are millions of users of there, many of whom will stumble upon our great competition.
Basically so viewers do not have to download that video, here are all the main key points summed up straight from the video. These are the tags that Dean and YouTube want us to use:

FIRST
FIRST2007
Robotics
______Regional [Fill in the blank with the city where the Regional is held, such as ManchesterRegional, HartfordRegional, or BostonRegional. Do not use names like BayouRegional or BAERegional]
FirstTeam____ [Fill in the blank with your team number, such as FirstTeam228]

As for categories: Howto and DIY.

;)


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