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Richard Wallace 13-12-2006 16:05

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel J. (Post 541526)
When Richard added in a nod to Andy Baker, I think he was joking.. A log scale wouldn't have to rely on the score of one member.

It's nice to see that someone appreciates a geeky sense of humor.:)

Logarithmic scaling usually involves normalization to some reference or standard level; e.g., decibels. I figured that Andy Baker would be a pretty good reference for reputation in our community, hence "deciBakers".

JaneYoung 13-12-2006 16:19

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel J. (Post 541522)
Are you saying this is too complicated? Of course I'd have to agree, and doing any of this might be harder than just installing that plug-in Brandon is talking about.. but I dunno, I kinda liked thinking about possible enhancements to rep dots.

Thank you for my lesson Joel.

As far as complicated -
One thing about this fine group of students and mentors is that I can always count on you never wanting to waste an opportunity to learn, to teach, and to improve.
It will be up to Brandon, as you've said - but it is cool to learn even when we are talking about reputation dots.

Jeremytice 13-12-2006 21:07

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sounds cool....

Kyle Love 13-12-2006 22:51

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I can live with it....and without it, it won't bother me either way.

Joel J 14-12-2006 07:58

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I saw this online, and then remembered about this thread..

Al Skierkiewicz 14-12-2006 08:17

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 541530)
I figured that Andy Baker would be a pretty good reference for reputation in our community, hence "deciBakers".

That means that most anyone could achieve is in tenths of a Baker, seems kind of out of proportion to the real world Baker doesn't it?!?

Andy Baker 14-12-2006 09:03

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 541724)
seems kind of out of proportion to the real world Baker doesn't it?!?


I'm still trying to find out what the real Baker world is. If anyone else has a clue, feel free to let me know.

... deciBakers. You guys are killin' me.

As for the colors and dots, keep it simple. Pretty colors are nice too.

AB

Al Skierkiewicz 14-12-2006 10:57

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Baker (Post 541732)
I'm still trying to find out what the real Baker world is.
AB


You know, now that you mention it so are we...

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ght=andy+baker

Richard Wallace 14-12-2006 15:44

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
OK, I'm a geek. My earlier suggestion really was half-serious. I agree with Joel that the reputation dot scale shouldn't be tied to any one CD member; however, I still like the name "deciBaker" to indicate a user's reputation in number-of-dots.

To remove Andy's actual reputation point total from the equation, I proposed this alternate definition of the deciBaker:

dB = 1 + 10*log10(reputation point total / 100)

Number of dots would be equal to the next higher whole number of dB. So a member with up to 100 (positive) reputation points would get one (green) dot. Dots would increase with increasing reputation point total, with each dot successively harder to get than the one before it:

1 dB = 100 rep points
2 db = 125 rep points
3 dB = 160 rep points
4 dB = 200 rep points
5 dB = 250 rep points
6 dB = 315 rep points
7 dB = 400 rep points
8 dB = 500 rep points
9 dB = 630 rep points
10 dB = 800 rep points
11 dB = 1,000 rep points
12 dB = 1,250 rep points
13 dB = 1,600 rep points
14 dB = 2,000 rep points
15 dB = 2,500 rep points
16 dB = 3,150 rep points
17 dB = 4,000 rep points
18 dB = 5,000 rep points
19 dB = 6,300 rep points
20 dB = 8,000 rep points
21 dB = 10,000 rep points
22 dB = 12,500 rep points
23 dB = 16,000 rep points
24 dB = 20,000 rep points
25 dB = 25,000 rep points
etc. (no upper limit)

Under this system, they're not just dots -- they're deciBakers! :]

And since there would (eventually) be more of them, there would be more styling potential; e.g., cool shapes, pretty colors. :cool:

Ken Streeter 14-12-2006 19:28

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Personally, I like the fact that ChiefDelphi has a reputation system. It is excellent at showing which people are "respected members of the community".

However, one of the things that I really like about the current implementation of the reputation system is that it has a maximum displayed reputation that isn't stratospheric. Even relatively new users on ChiefDelphi (like me!) can envision that by making good contributions to the community, they may one day be amongst the set of users on CD that are at the highest displayed level of reputation. New users can also see that good postings are recognized by others. Alas, I think that if the maximum level is either unbounded or so high that it can't be reasonably obtained in a couple years through means other than "voting for friends" then I think the reputation system's ability to "encourage good postings" is somewhat diminished. My personal perspective is that I'm in favor of leaving the reputation bars at their current level.

Another benefit about having a maximum displayed reputation level is that there isn't any competition amongst the "max-reputation" folks to see who has the biggest reputation of all. (Or, if there is, it is at least largely invisible to others!) Even though such competition would surely be a friendly rivalry amongst the high-reputation folks, I'm not sure that there's really any benefit in further distinguishing amongst the "best of the best" on CD.

Similarly, because there is a current maximum displayed level, there's no way for folks to "cheat the system" and surpass the displayed levels of the very "best of the best" on CD who are already maxed out. The very best that somebody could do in "cheating the system" would be to equal the levels of the mainstays on CD. As such, the incentive for a miscreant to employ foul tactics to generate a reputation higher than dlavery or AndyBaker is greatly diminished -- despite one's best attempts, one could only attain the same level, no higher.

I'm in favor of leaving the reputation system with a reasonably attainable "maximum displayed level."

Just my two cents!

--ken, who is somewhat fearful of what kind of impact this post may have on his reputation since it publicly contradicts the perspective of so many of the "best of the best" on CD... Then again, there shouldn't be any reason to worry, these folks all exude gracious professionalism from their very being and definitely would respect a polite, healthy difference of opinion!

MikeDubreuil 14-12-2006 19:31

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I don't think the reputation system should allow reputation to be given in the Chit/Chat or general forum threads. It sperates the people who are just nice from the ones who contribute at a higher level.

Cody Carey 14-12-2006 20:27

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Streeter (Post 541884)
Personally, I like the fact that ChiefDelphi has a reputation system. It is excellent at showing which people are "respected members of the community".

However, one of the things that I really like about the current implementation of the reputation system is that it has a maximum displayed reputation that isn't stratospheric. Even relatively new users on ChiefDelphi (like me!) can envision that by making good contributions to the community, they may one day be amongst the set of users on CD that are at the highest displayed level of reputation. New users can also see that good postings are recognized by others. Alas, I think that if the maximum level is either unbounded or so high that it can't be reasonably obtained in a couple years through means other than "voting for friends" then I think the reputation system's ability to "encourage good postings" is somewhat diminished. My personal perspective is that I'm in favor of leaving the reputation bars at their current level.

Another benefit about having a maximum displayed reputation level is that there isn't any competition amongst the "max-reputation" folks to see who has the biggest reputation of all. (Or, if there is, it is at least largely invisible to others!) Even though such competition would surely be a friendly rivalry amongst the high-reputation folks, I'm not sure that there's really any benefit in further distinguishing amongst the "best of the best" on CD.

Similarly, because there is a current maximum displayed level, there's no way for folks to "cheat the system" and surpass the displayed levels of the very "best of the best" on CD who are already maxed out. The very best that somebody could do in "cheating the system" would be to equal the levels of the mainstays on CD. As such, the incentive for a miscreant to employ foul tactics to generate a reputation higher than dlavery or AndyBaker is greatly diminished -- despite one's best attempts, one could only attain the same level, no higher.

I'm in favor of leaving the reputation system with a reasonably attainable "maximum displayed level."

Just my two cents!

--ken, who is somewhat fearful of what kind of impact this post may have on his reputation since it publicly contradicts the perspective of so many of the "best of the best" on CD... Then again, there shouldn't be any reason to worry, these folks all exude gracious professionalism from their very being and definitely would respect a polite, healthy difference of opinion!


I like it!


After taking this post into consideration, I am in favor of leaving the system that is currently implemented intact. The only change that I would like to see is maybe one more level of bars to achieve. That way, the goal is still attainable... but it gives quite a few people more to strive for.

Cody Carey 05-01-2007 11:05

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
I hate to be a double-poster, but has anything come of this?

Ricky Q. 05-01-2007 12:15

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
Expect to see it on the backburner for a while until after kickoff, lots of things going on for Brandon, and everyone else.

Eldarion 05-01-2007 13:14

Re: Reputation Dots Enhancements
 
I am in agreement with Ken Streeter above.


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