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Joel J 23-03-2007 20:46

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Congrats Derek.

What are the chances of posting that 90 - 78 match between 1114 and 1503?

Freddy Schurr 23-03-2007 20:52

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
I was watching the webcast this afternoon and I was impressed with how both the robots and competition are going.

Good Luck to all teams.

Pat Fairbank 23-03-2007 21:20

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
I've noticed that the flaws in the scheduling algorithm are really making themselves felt at such a small regional. Even though each team is playing 11 qualifying matches, all that means is that you play with/against the same team 4 or 5 times instead of 2 or 3, while still never seeing some other teams at all.

Other than that, the Waterloo Regional is a lot of fun so far.

neilsonster 24-03-2007 00:08

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RAWRimaPANDA (Post 603657)
did you mean cooperation?
Whatever it is, congrats to team 188 on that ;]

I did mean "coopetition", as that is what Karthik said when he announced it (meaning it is what the Judges would have written). 188 won for cooperating with a team in LA (4? 22?) to go to the LA regional. I think this is their 3rd/4th year doing this... that is, either hosting the LA team or being hosted in LA.

Nawaid Ladak 24-03-2007 00:46

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Fairbank (Post 603714)
I've noticed that the flaws in the scheduling algorithm are really making themselves felt at such a small regional. Even though each team is playing 11 qualifying matches, all that means is that you play with/against the same team 4 or 5 times instead of 2 or 3, while still never seeing some other teams at all.

Other than that, the Waterloo Regional is a lot of fun so far.

well, at least we got something else to look forward to, another 1114vs1503 showdown, man those are great

can't wait till championships, if it's going this way, why not put 25 and 1114 going at it for four or five matches

then watch them pick each other in the alliance parings and win it all.

now that would be something...

Nica F. 24-03-2007 00:58

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neilsonster (Post 603779)
I did mean "coopetition", as that is what Karthik said when he announced it (meaning it is what the Judges would have written). 188 won for cooperating with a team in LA (4? 22?) to go to the LA regional. I think this is their 3rd/4th year doing this... that is, either hosting the LA team or being hosted in LA.

I was just told the coopetition definition, but thank you for clarifying.
Team 188 did an exchange with both 22 and 4 for the past 4 years.
I've been lucky to say I've been a part of this exchange the past 3 years.

Jonathan Norris 24-03-2007 07:23

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
This has been a very interesting regional so far, historically it has been more of a defensive brawl regional, but on Friday we saw the rack almost filled up a couple of times. With a third of the robots being strong scoring bots its been a very interesting day with some awesome matches. It will be very interesting to see how the eliminations play out today.

Bongle 24-03-2007 08:56

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
I found last year that the average quality of robots at Waterloo was quite a bit higher than at Toronto. I think it was because for many teams, Waterloo is their second regional, so you tend to get better-funded teams attending.

After all, if you're going to only go to a single canadian regional (lower-funded teams), you're probably going to want to go to the huge super-regional that's only an hour away rather than the teeny waterloo regional.

-----Other thought ------
As soon as you expose yourself as a scorer in this game, you're going to get creamed by defenders. Yesterday, 1565 had 3-4 relatively unmolested rounds where we steadily put up 2-4 ringers per match. By match #5, Karthik was introducing us as "don't be fooled by the looks, this is a fearsome scorer". After that, we were just overwhelmed with defense and drivetrain issues related to the defense. I was with 1281 last year as we played pure defense for 3 tournaments, and this gives me and idea how our opposition felt.

Richard Wallace 24-03-2007 10:04

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
I see that the "random" match generation algorithm was selected, and that is much better (IMO) than the "perpetual opponent" option. Even so, I notice that 1114 has played (so far) four qualifying matches with 610 as an ally and one with 610 as an opponent. Good news for both teams, but maybe not as "random" as the draw might have been.

Nawaid Ladak 24-03-2007 10:18

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
man, even though people say that was a horrible played match (Q50). That was still exciting.

too bad 1114 couldn't get that ringer off their flag (i would think 1680 would help out with that.)

btw: anybod else noticing that a): the defense has picked up, and b) the match results for the QM's are coming in maybe 3 times as fast as other regionals???

Richard Wallace 24-03-2007 11:10

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
So, who is looking like a #1 draft pick?

neilsonster 24-03-2007 11:12

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 603847)
So, who is looking like a #1 draft pick?

In my opinion... 854, 2056, or 1503.. all are top notch! Of those three though, 854 has working ramps, so I'd lean towards them.

XaulZan11 24-03-2007 11:14

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Any word on when alliance selections will take place?

Rich Ross 24-03-2007 11:14

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
its easy to forget that 1114 has a GREAT RAMP, but don't be surprised if they leave the ramping to themselves after some GLR woes.

Joel J 24-03-2007 11:16

Re: 2007 Waterloo Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 603847)
So, who is looking like a #1 draft pick?

I have no idea who I'd pick..

854
1305
2056
1503
610

I think either 854, 2056, or 610 (who has definitely improved).

These finals are going to be something else!

I think the 4th seed might find their position beneficial, due to the fact that they'll have a good first round pick, and be in great position for the second round selection.


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