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Round plate with a five on it. What's round and comes in fives? Olympic Rings! What ring would make an excellent gamepiece? Hmmm.....

Aerobies, in Centennial Olympic Park, anyone?

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Of course, this year's game will be outside!

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WOW not a bad idea. Aerobies definately popped my eyes. :yikes:

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I'm not even going to think about this one. I'll enjoy my Christmas without the stress!

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You read the thread, now you can't get it out of your mind. Admit it!

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to me the backgroud looks just like water...
so my guess is that the game is going to involve water, or a water object(tubes, noodles, inflatable whales, ect)

and i think that there might be 5 seperate areas where you can score points(they'll probably be dimond plated) each might be seperate hights(1= lowest, 5=tallest)then the 1 platform would = the least amount of points and so on.
just my thoughts...

~Alex~

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Dave did talk a lot about Krispy Kremes? Maybe we will be playing with donuts:yikes: !

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According to Wikipedia, the fifth state to ratify the constitution was Connecticut, but I have no idea what that could do with the game... Personally, the flying disk idea is the best so far.

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Is it just me, or does the blue background have a ripple reflection pattern, indicative of something like WATER? :-P

Either that, or it's some kind of lighting effect - kinda like the light from a blue cold cathode vision target.....

I'm all for diamond plate as a field material - gives us an excuse to get more to build a new controls carrying box this year.

The filename of the picture is "2007Clue1.jpg", which leads me to believe other clues could be posted later, or that in the very least, other clue photos exist.

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Sooooo, here is my idea. Although, for what it's worth, it seems like in previous years the hints have been pretty abstract. The picture looks like the closeup of a pool ball, as in the game of pool. Also recall earlier in the year an unofficial clue was floating around (punny!) that showed a robot in an aquarium type environment; which could also be interpreted as a "pool"

The only problem I have with my guess is that it isn't abstract enough, but I am guessing....

ROBO-POOL!!!

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Well, I've got some opinions about the picture.

It is obviously a screen capture from Dave's animation.

It looks like a close up of a field element with some fun wavy action going on in the background that is irrelevant other than the blue to indicate the alliance for which this particular game element is for.

It seems to me that the reason we don't see the whole diamond plate circle is because it is mounted on something, possibly a vertical pole.

The diamond plate is a perfect circle, not oblong or anything.

If the scale of the diamonds in this render are to scale of real diamond plate (which they probably aren't), I would say that the circle is about 2 feet in diameter.

Also, I think I see a human player on the far right, along with the standard field railing.

As for the '5', I believe it is the point value for whatever the task relating to the the diamond plate circle is. If you remember in 2004, all of the balls were labeled according to point value.
This is supported by the fact that when you crank up the brightness or contrast on the image, you can see the outline of the diamonds, just as you would see if they had vinyl over the diamond plate.

Take Five
 

Could the name of the game be If so, a game based upon a robotic light theater such as the one created at UT-Austin would make for some crazy wild autonomuos scripting trying to follow these lights.

Take5 feature on Robotic Lights

Low Res Movie of the robotic light theatre

:yikes:

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Looks like this stuff http://www.xoxide.com/primoflex-12id-34od-uvblue.html to me?

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I bet in 3 day game hint 2 will come and it will be the # 4

15 /5 =3 ???

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good ole UT - Austin:)

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My thoughts:

If you look at the blue section of the photo it is obvious that you are looking at a reflection off of an object. The way that the image is skewed show that the object is rounded with a hole in the middle, much like an inner tube.


example :one I made



the next part of this is the number 5, since this is an anniversary year for first you start at year 1992 and add 5, 1997. In 1997 the game was called Torroid Terror and teams "human players score points by placing the inner tubes onto pegs on the goal, or around the top of the goal. The tubes are color-coded to identify team ownership."

You heard it here first folks, inner tubes it is. Personally I think Dave did this just so he could persuade Krispy Kremes to be a sponsor.

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Could 5 be a path or a trough. Remember Dave Lavery's other hints, such as this one?

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i also see rings surrounding the dimond plate circle, maybe ripples, just another posible water hint

~Alex~

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lol what a clue.

i bet even they don't know what they're trying to say.

5 can mean anything....5 player-each-team match?

Metal floor?

blue background(?)

wow they should give us some real hints...

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No. The shipping rules released the other day clearly stated the crate could weigh no more than 400 lbs.

Where's this game get it's inspiration?
FROM DA CUTTT!!!! :D

Pool Yes, but not the kind you are thinking.

I'm waiting for the other hint pics to be released, and guessing one will have a Large 2 on a diamond plate piece and an Orange background. :D


By the way: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=10

That is a round object with diamond plate on the bottom. Just something to ponder. VEX game influence maybe?

Re: **FIRST EMAIL**/Special Communication from the Game Design Committee
 

Please continue to discuss this topic at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=50637

THANKS

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But wasnt 1997 the 6th game, 1996 would be the 5th year, wouldn't it?

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Greg, I defiantly agree with your pic, you can see how the texture changes slightly out side of the plate. so it could be an inner tube or a wheel of some sort. also i wounder how accurate the size of the diamonds are. can anyone calculate the size of that? ( im not sure if diamonds come in different sizes on diamond plate)

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Robots can be crazy at times, inner tubes can pop.

But the inner tube idea is not to shabby. I like the idea where it might be the amount of points you get "5", and that plate, tube, object whatever you want to call it, is an element.

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Assuming that the diamond plate is a normal tread pattern I place that piece being a circle with and aprox diameter of 22 inches.

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Sometimes I find it easier to look at what something IS NOT to figure out what it is:

IS NOT:

• 5 robots on the field. There's enough of a problem with teams getting matches in now, and with all the new rookies this would make things worse.
• A reference to a prior years game. There are very few people left in FIRST who can think back that many years. Then again, there is a history section on the FIRST page

In another note, I see the same 3 colored "stop light" as I did in the bannana hint.




Does anyone else see the same?

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This year's game element, I'm calling it now, will have something to do with the Cheesy Poofs. Here's my evidence:

1) What's the Poofs' team number? 254.

2) Go to the Members link on CD, and sort by reputation. Who's in the fifth position on the list? Cory McBride of 254.

3) What was the predominant color of the Poofs' robot this year? Blue.

4) 254's main sponsor is NASA Ames. NASA's insignia? Mostly blue.

5) Also hailing from NASA Ames is one Mark Leon, an emcee whose relevance to this post should be painfully obvious if you've seen him in action.

6) At Cal Games this year, Mark Leon was unintentionally run over by Paly's robot going into autonomous. Where was Mark? Right in front of the blue alliance station.

I'm saying it now: There will be 254 bags of Cheesy Poofs on the field this year.

(And if you believe any of this, I've got a deal for you on a bridge in Brooklyn...)

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Just throwing it out there: the relative size of the diamonds indicates that if it is some kind of platform it may only be large enough for one robot. (But of course there may be 5 of them...musical chairs at the end for bonus points perhaps?)

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You might have something here. Since all the games have some element of sports, maybe this is the year for baseball...

If this is a game element, it's obviously designed to take some punishment or it wouldn't be diamond plate. We could all be fooled by the size, it could be small and not manhole sized.

Maybe it's a multiplier? Or as others have said, 5 teams on the field? a 5th wild card team? 5 ways to score?

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I was playing with the image in Photoshop and got this...



All I did was open the image, equalize, and brighten.

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I honestly don't think that the diamond plate has anything to do with the game. I think that the 5 and the diamond plate are from kickoff when they cylce through the sponsors, and then they finally give the countdown. So
I think that more clues are to come.... with a 4 being on the next one... maybe a riddle for the last one?

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hmm....im confused about all of this...but everyone here has amazing ideas...i dont know if this could help...i doubt it will but the first thing i thought of when i saw this picture..was the fantastic 4...although the number is a 5 it still looks like the fantastic 4 symbol in color shape and even the 5 is the same font as the 4 in the original fantastic 4 symbol



coinsidence? or am i just crazy?

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i am saying we are doing something with round diamond plate circles which will be the scoring game piece, this one for example will be worth 5 points. u will have to probably stack them or move them around. hailing back to the game using "floppies" and possibly even stack attack. build a tough robot these things will cause some damage!:ahh: :D

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Just Crazy...Like the rest of us for spending all of this time looking at a image of a 5.

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I don't know. Looks like team colors though.

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I like the baseball thoery. Maybe like a shooting gallery in the outfield, and a shooter bot has to sit on home plate and tries to hit the targets and the other bots are attempting to block, with positions switching halfway through game time...
Yeah, I know, Im reaching, but there isn't a whole lot to work with... I miss the riddles.

P.S.- to Dave and the GDC- Enjoying yourselves? :D

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if you look closely, it's clear that they aren't reffering to water (being that such a condition is very hard to build robots for). the wisps of blue "force" are juxtaposed with black space. looks like pneumatic will be used to hold up 5 platforms or something...:confused:

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Look at dlavery's user title..

"LMAO..."

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- it looks vaguely like a q-ball.
- I think that the whirls imply a spherical object
- maybe there are only going to be five pieces.

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Check this out I don't think this is the last clue i think we are counting down to the real one go to HERE and it says 2007 game clue but shows no picture.

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Just playing with photoshop... Look at the right side of the image.

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NICE FIND!!

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Johnny 5 ALIVE!!! i get the corrolation! maybe it is just saying we will have robots in this years game.

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The hint means there will be a game with robots on a field of some kind.

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How do you get that from a 5?

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I was thinking of a blue light that you can track with five manhole like items on the field that you lift in order to score a goal.:cool:

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I really like the 5.
5,4,3,2,1 - blast off.

I really like that....

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Alrighty, here's my theory. The number 5 signifies that we will, once again, have five robots competing at once with one robot "guarding" or something. The diamond plate could either mean we will, as has been mentioned before, a circular arena, or a "king of the hill" sort of thing. It kind of looks like a manhole, but where's the fun in that? Unless, of course, there are scattered manholes to test your robots suspesion, or a raised manhole you somehow must get your grossly oversized robot on top of. :eek: or maybe its just another ramp.

Now for the background. It kind of looks like water, and my mom said that maybe there are out of bounds areas that either are or look like water. Or they could use water jugs . . .

The possibilities are endless!

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Maybe this year the game is going to be called HIGH FIVE ?!?!?!:confused: :yikes:

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Ok...Here we go.

The field is split into two sides, red and blue. split between a type of field obstruction like a ramp or stairs.

On each side are three towers of large tube rings labled 5 to 1, shrinking in size/similar in size, stacked in three towers. The tube rings are colored red and blue and are stacked on opposite sides of the field.

Ready set go, aliances try to move the color rings to their side of the field and put them in order. A ring on the color field recieves 1 point.

If ring 1 is stacked on top or below ring 2, that team gives 5 ponts. If ring 3 is on top or on bottom of 2, 5 extra points, 4 similar 5 more, 5 similar 5 more, making a total of 20 for the stack, 5 more for the rings on color, 75 possible total for each side for three stacks...

Rings that touch on the side of each other of similar number recieve 2 points if the ring touches another. So if a 2 touches 2, thats 2 extra points, if 2 touches 2 and that 2 touches the third 2, thats 4 points. If 2 touches 2 touches 2 touches the other 2, thats 6 points.

So if each three stack touches each other so each stack touches the other two, thats 30 additional points, and 105 total points

Plus 25 for robots doing something at the end.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Gladiators

I'm thinking the robots will be playing a variation of the "Assault" game from the American Gladiators TV show.

Assault (1989-1996): The two contenders competed separately against a single Gladiator. The object was to fire a series of five weapons to hit a target at one end of the playing field. Below the target, a Gladiator used a cannon to shoot tennis balls at speeds in excess of 100 miles per hour at the contender. The weapons used by the contenders were located near protective barriers and varied from season to season. The weapons included a crossbow, pneumatic "rocket launcher", and "cannon", a handgun, as well as softballs at the final station. Hitting the bullseye scored 10 points (10 for the white circle & 7 for the red in earlier seasons) for the contender. In the most common version of the event the contender earned a point for each weapon fired as well as a bonus for crossing a finish line near the Gladiator's platform within 60 seconds. Getting struck directly by a tennis ball (ricochets off the floor or walls did not count) ended the round.

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Robots must wear different-colored Spandex unitards to designate their alliance. "Zap", "Turbo", and "Gemini" will serve as honorary human players who man the tennis ball cannon that attempts to block the shots of the robots as they shoot at targets high up on a platform. The 5 point hinged disk in the game hint(hinge cropped out at top of photo) is one such target. The targets will have different lights behind them to aid targeting via the vision camera (the green-lighted target will be worth the least amount of points per hit since more teams know how to target that color). The higher-point targets will also be harder to reach - further away, shielded in some manner, etc.

Because it will be hard for humans to score the number of times an alliance's robots hit the targets, there will again be some kind of automatic scoring system that will most likely not work as well as the designers intended, hence the indirect reference in Dave's sig to the Dirty Harry quote, "I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself", in the same way that the scoring software will lose count again this year. :rolleyes:

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well I honestly do think we'll have four other clues, since today is the 21st and we have clue number 1 (out of 5)... 4 days from today is Christmas! when the REAL, or the most detailed/least confusing clue should be released.

21st - clue 1 [most vague clue]
22nd- clue 2
23rd- clue 3
24th- clue 4 [ the biggest tease clue! :( ]
25th- clue 5 (Christmas!) [most detailed clue]

Maybe this could mean, five game periods? (auto/off/def/free for all/2nd auto!) Or maybe one robot has to stand on a platform to open the scoring area, and the defense robots try to kick it off, while offense tries to score? I like Greg Needel's proposal of how the game piece sort of looks like a taurus. This is confusing :-( and i'm late for work! I really hope more clues come out!! I guess more sleepless nights to come :rolleyes:

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I think that the background kind of looks like you are looking out from the bottom of a transparent inner tube.

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Extra periods? Kind of like the one the grammar whiz Dave Lavery is leaving around the forums at the ends of his latest posts??

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...15&postcount=8

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...6&postcount=70

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=10

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The game must be based on reggie bush... sumthin with footballs hehe

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It took way too many posts for some one to post Johnny 5 here. The first thing I thought was "Number 5 is alive"

What this tells me is the game will be called Short Cicuit, we will therefore have a robot on the field that we do not control as a scoring object. We need to place the robot on a diamond plate goal.

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maybe there will be 5 diamond plate platforms and points can only be scored when the robots are on the platform

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After the initial 10 second autonomous, there is a point where 5 robots are human controlled and 1 is autonomous.

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I was thinking the samething, 5 clues, or a countdown till the offical clue

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Follow me here for a second... What if the diamond plate circle is a marker desgnating where teams need to score? There will be plexi or lexan circles placed around the field, eitherhanging or placed on the the field itself, that the robots must either pick up or take down before sliding onto one of three marked scoring pegs that are at varrying heights at each end of the field. This picture is of the blue allainces 5 point scoring area. The other two scoring areas will most likely be 3 points and 1 point. the reason the circle in the picture is cropped off is because it shows the peg where the plexi/lexan circles would slide on. The one point "goal" would be the easiest and the 5 point "goal" would most likely the highest in the air, or in the most difficult to reach area of the field.

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Ok, I got some ideas... and i know i'll be repeating some that have already been posted, so just consider it being my support of those ideas...

so

First i figured to break it up into multiple parts. First rarely has things working together to only mean one thing. So i split it all up

the circle
the diamond plate
the 5
the background

For the circle

• it could be referring to a ball game piece. First enjoys using triangle boxes and circles for their game pieces, probably because its their logo and... ya

• a disc (similar to the nerf-style discs that someone posted a link to in page 8 or so)

For the diamond plate

• We know that diamond plate has been used for ramps in previous years
  it has also been used for stairs. In reference to a post made on the first pages of the what seems to be stairs underwater around the main circle, i agree. I don't know about a circular staircase going up to a circular platform, but its possible that that piece refers to stairs

• diamond plate could also be the top platform of some sort of "hill" like the people that have mentioned a "king of the hill" type game. I agree with them as well.

For the number 5
I'm seeing a LOT of ideas running around with the number five, but, being how i am, i think a little more simple then all these references to baseball and such. I think that 5 has a more basic meaning of

• 5 possible goals

• 5 robots in a free-for-all

• 5 obstacles on the field

• 5 robots attacking (1 defending)(as also mentioned)

• 5 special locations on the field that allow you to do something you can't do anywhere else, like the tetra game and the loading zones

• I like the 500 lb weight limit :)

and of course, the background
One thing i'd like to point out, that Tom sort of did, but made a connection with something else. Notice how the whole background seems pretty similar to all the other parts, but there is that right side that catches my eye every time i look at it. Its like its different from everything else. Tom made the connection of it being an image hidden in the clouded, twisted, blue background, but he referred to a piece in the fake hint that was released a while ago. When i looked closer, i realized it looks a lot like the scoop of some robot like a ice-snow-remover-thingamagig that cleans the street... you know what i'm saying ;). It also looks like a robot is attached to it, like the scoop is facing toward the bottom of the image, and the robot (the black part right above the scoop) going towards to top.... this could be indicating that our robots will have to push stuff around more than it has to manipulate it, similar to the Raising the Bar challenge with the balls on the ground and you have to push them around...
aside from that note, I don't think that it would be underwater. As people have pointed out, its much to complicated, unless first themselves supply some sort of basic structure to allow teams to all have a waterproof robot. Dealing with water and robots is, imo, much too complicated and dangerous for FIRST to throw on both veteran and rookie teams, because of the issues it involves of electricity (12V battery) and expensive electronics.
Perhaps the blue simple shows that its 1 team (or ffa).

I also wanted to point out, did anyone else notice there is no green in the clue? Could it be possible that the light we need to detect with the camera is now blue? thus the blue background? and the black mixed with the blue show that there is not team colors? :ahh:

thats my two cents, i'll see if anything else comes to mind...

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In the second "Short Circuit" movie Johnny Five parachutes out of an office building... Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, its a 125 pound flying robot!

As for the stop light thing, that hint from Atlanta/grand rapids might be plausible... There will be lights made with red green and blue neons.. The only problem is these lights could then be used to make just about any color you can imagine... So teams will have to track an almost infinite number of colors!

Inner tubes: Inner tubes have been used before, if I remember correctly. The background in the hint looks like water. And Dave posted that crazy water scene a while back. So maybe theres some credibility to the ring shaped game piece idea...

The quote from Dave's signature is from a comic author, if i remember correctly. The fantastic four was a comic.. So again there might be some credibility there.. Or maybe the GDC is just anticipating a whole lot of robots engulfed in flames.

One last one. As mentioned much earlier, maybe its a reference to the five of diamonds in cards. Perhaps we'll be using round disk shaped objects to score?

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

Cinco de Mayo is celebrated in the 5th Month on the 5th Day.


That's it! The playing field parts are pinatas and maracas! :p


¿Se puede decirnos mas por el juego de la competicion del robot, o necesitamos esperar hasta el seis de enero?

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

this clue is vague
don't they normally give like a riddle ... what happened to that?!?

anyways here is what i think...

1) the most literal would be ... there are 5 diamond plates and the robots have to get on them and something like that ... maybe of the end... Basically the king of the hill idea that has already been said or SUMO style (maybe there is something surrounding the plates making a boundary line that u have to stay in or something ... like in the picture it looks like water.... but i donno about water)

2) or maybe its like musical chairs .... there are 6 bots... and only 5 plates (chairs) to start out with .... and they keep taking a "chair" after each period of the game.... the alliance with the most bots remaining wins!

maybe the field object is made out of diamond plating or is a pentagon or is a diamond plated pentagon... or maybe diamond plated boxes

wasn't the ramp last year made up of diamond plating...???? or something like that..... maybe the diamond plating could be what a part of the field if made up of ....

also, is it just me or is the river thing in this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=41024
picture the same as the background in the clue like the same color....

or maybe there is something made of diamond plating that is high up or there are like 5 of it ... 5 colors for the light... the game mite be called HIGH FIVE !

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

Why couldn't the 5 represent the number teams on an alliance (includes an alternate in the elimination rounds) and the diamond plate represent a "0"

A 4 vs 0 game similar to what we had in 2001.

Never say never.

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

5: the number of oceans
That seals it - it has to be a water game! I wonder how we're supposed to make a diamond-plate disk float...

Or, maybe we'll be doing pull-ups again. Look at the number 5 key on a computer keypad - it has a raised bar on it!

5: the number of Platonic Solids. We had the first one in 2005...

Oh, the possibilities are so delightfully endless with a clue so vague!

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

pentathlon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentathalon

read this article and it all makes sense. if i am right this is going to be one complicated game.

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I'm letting this one be the winner. But I'll add this: it will be the return of 5-vs0. Either that or 5v5. That would be typical FIRST--accomodating to the larger number of teams (and the larger regionals).

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

Robots with javelins! Yikes! No wonder FIRST is stessing safety glasses so early!

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Im going with the dodecahedron... It is made of pentagons after all... Plus the killer bees just have a thing for dodeca-anything.

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Well there are 2 things we should be able to rule out.

1. There most likely won't be 5 different game pieces because then you get lots of bots with the same manipulator.

2. water+electricity=bad


From looking at other posts though, the merry-go-round thing http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=10
looks possible, I mean, they can be small and they would add to the dificulty of movement (mecanum anyone?) and medicine balls aren't too expensive and do come in the 5 pound size... but I'm not gonna go crazy trying to figure out the clues, I'll just wait till the 6th.

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

A rotating platform of some sort sounds possible. Maybe instead of it being a square like it was for FVC, it'll be just a round platform, and maybe instead of just rotating, it also tilts and wobbles. It would have 5 goals on this that you need to score on with an innertube.

Or what if all of the innertubes are in the center of the field on a giant rotating diamond plate platform and we need to somehow get them. ooo

I'm not going to get too into the hint this season, it's only two weeks away.

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Whatever the game...It is going to be Odd!

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Do you care to explain why 5 different game pieces would end up with many robots having the same manipulater?

Seems to me and others the more game pieces there are, the more unique the robot designs will be.

Now, as an example... in 2005 and 2006 there has been 1 game piece and all the robots have been basically the same. Whereas in 2004 (the last good year), there were 3 (kickball, 2x ball, bar) game pieces and the robot designs were all very unique.

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Im pretty sure they wouldn't go with underwater because the MATE competitoin deals with underwater

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

if you google: five diamond plate,
you get baseball

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_plate#home_plate

maybe it involves catching or throwing balls
home plate is a five-sided white rubber slab, maybe in this case it's a diamond plate

Re: 2007 Serious FRC Game Hint
 

Alright.. I keep reading into what dlavery says in his other posts, and I'm probably going to burn for this when the game comes out, but:

- the dot at the end of his posts.. aka, period
- the stressed I.. aka, eye? aka, no alliances? aka, one at a time? aka, 1?
- I 5? eye five? high five?
- . I? period one? I .? one period?

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Well, my comment only applies if there are 5 different types of things to pick up... i/e most people would make some type of gripper and lots of bots would be similar. Also look at other games, there has not been one that has 5 different shaped game pieces, i/e even if there were more than 1, they were the same shape, like in 2004, where you had balls in 2 different sizes. They wouldn't do something like tetras and balls in the same game as pieces because then lots of bots will do the same type of thing. And if you look at past games, they seem to be going towards one type of game piece: 2003 = boxes, 2004 = balls (2 sizes, but still same shape), 2005= tetras, 2006 = balls.

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Sorry if it's been said already, but the 5 could have something to do with 5 raised platforms which the game pieces have to be placed on and possibly defended. As for the diamond plate, maybe they're arranged in a diamond pattern, or maybe the field isn't a rectangle this year...;)

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Ok, well after reading through 12 pages of posts I have an idea. What if the 5 relates to the number of zones. 2x2 alliance, robots in starting zones 1-4. In the center is a raised platform, zone 5. Notice how the edges on 2 sides are straight not round, that could indicate a ramp to the platform. Also, while the blue is the same background from kickoff, I think it means we will be using a blue light for some reason or another.

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thats actually a really great thing to point out. but of course, this IS FIRST so we have to link to at least 3 other words from this. :p

hmm.


diamond plate - baseball - bases - touch and be safe - a robot gets to be "Safe" when touching a platform?

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i just got it

the 5 equals the number of goals.

i think that FIRST could be lazy and just use the vex game from last year

half pipe hustle but with poof balls.

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I what about a 5 vs 5

that would be realy crowded but an olympic size pool should be big enough:D

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If you set your page count to 40 then you only have to read half a many pages :)

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I think the clue is not the diamond plate but 5 diamond shaped plates/platforms. I predict two alliances of 3 teams like the last two years. At some point (probably at the end like last year) you will get points for being on top of one of 5 diamond shaped platforms arranged in either a star shape or sort of a "S" shape in the center of the field. The top of the platforms may be diamond plate but that isn't the clue. The platforms are of different heights sort of like a spiral staircase or an Olympic metal stand and the higher you go the more points you get. Maybe there is only space on each platform for one robot and so one of the alliances gets left out and doesn't get the "bonus" points for having all three of your alliance robots on a platform. Sort of like the ramp points last year but with a common star/"S" shaped spiral "stair case" of diamond shaped platforms in the middle of the field. Maybe the name of the game will be "Stairway to Heaven".

:yikes: :confused: :eek: :ahh: :D

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I'm too lazy to read through this entire thread, but I noticed the file name...

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I'm not even gonna touch this. Come on, guys, it's two weeks 'til build.

Personally, I'm gonna go outside for a little before I forget what my neighborhood looks like in the daylight. :)

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Aye to that

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Ohh I like this one, Octahedral game pieces would be very interesting, and difficult to manipulate....

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i think the most important thing to think about is Mr. lavery going to have a good relaxing christmas break or is he on his computer making the video for kickoff. i think he should take the break off. who is with me?

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But what would Dean say?!

But then again, hopefully this is my first/last post in this thread...

--
On that note, I inverted it and to me, the diamond plate looks more like an animation when its inverted, when the image is inverted the background is yellow. So maybe there has to do something with yellow?

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Now that sounds like a good name for the game... I wonder if the 2007 game will be called high five...

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i think that there will be 5 scoring zones. the zones will be diamond plates.
they will have colors like the green target from last year. they will color the plates as 2 red 2 blue and 1 green (from the hint at Atlanta that there will be green, bule and red) the 2 red and 2 blue will be the scoring zones for the alliances and the gree plate will be like a bonus zone..

just a thought

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Well being the 21'st of December:

5 Golden rings( from the 12 days of Christmas)

or

Party of 5- but it would be a little too crowded on the feild.

then agian, these are just first initial thoughts

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Actually, I think I got it now.



Hey, what can you ask for 2 mins in paint :p. It's a guy with a cap on if you haven't noticed.

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This post wins the thread.

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Can you spell "OCR"?

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actually.... by that train of thought, this post (#11) wins the thread...

Everyone do everyone a favor.
Stop, read the whole thread, and then post
or at least do a quick search using the search tool

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five 'bots tangling with pasta
a game piece obsessed with a shovel's show
and seeing Montana's green heights

there is going to be a back bot this year