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Prediction:

Stoplights found in both images will tell robots when to stop and go. 6 robots will have to fight for 5 diamond plate bases, like musical chairs, for bonus points.

Other than that...sorry GDC, this is too obtuse a hint for me to spend Christmas wondering about :)

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This image is definitely from this year's animation. If you look to the right side just above halfway, you can see one of the audience members from previous year's animations. (should look like a blue blob with yellow hair, you can sort of see the hand too)

I don't think that it's a coincidence that we see a stoplight in both images either. Combined with the hint about multiple colors at last year's championships, I think that having the stoplight in the game is a reasonable assumption.

As for the diamond plate with the 5. Your guess is as good as mine.

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Well, we've reached 500 posts and most of you have forgotten that the clue is supposed to lead us to the name of the game as well as hint at how the game is played. So far very few FIRSTers have taken a shot at guessing the name of the game.

I also think that the GDC dropped a few more clues in this thread that you missed. Go back and read who posted what. I don't have all the answers yet, but I'm working on it.

My take on the infamous picture, yes it's a clip from the game animation showing part of the scoring summary. In this case 5 points to the blue alliance. The question I'm still working on, is that a goal (mobil goal?) or a scoring object shown. The blue isn't, I think, a background. I think the view is looking down a blue hued lexan tube with the plate at the bottom of the tube. The concentric rings and other things people are seeing are reflections of what's outside this object, being distorted by the curved lexan. I think I see part of a white field line.

The hockey theme might be something. Is the picture a scoring puck. Is the game name "Power Play"? A power play leaves one team at a numerical disadvantage. Is the game 3 vs. 3 with a back bot again?

Then again if I seeing other clues correctly, the game could be named "Disk Duel"

Just a few thoughts to get people working on the game name. Like I said I'm still working on it..... hmmm The Book of Five Rings.... the fifth book is.... the fifth element is.... ;)

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I saw the lower half of a face on one of the clue images someone messed with. I couldn't help thinking of Darth Sidious from Star Wars. Maybe there are two alliances with two bots each and one bot playing bot angles, or a different game entirely?

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the number 5

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You know, Borat says "High Five'ah!" a lot. Perhaps it's called "High Five" :p

Yes, how obvious. It was in front of us all along. Nice'ah.

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Since everyone is enjoying their XMas, I guess I'll be one of those non XMas celebraters to take a stab at the game.

GAME TITLE: Cross Check

OBJECT:

To get as many nerf hockey pucks as possible inside the goals in 5:00 of game time.

GAME FORMAT:

3 vs. 3 (like last year) with a backbot
Penatlies such as (ramming) will be assessed like in hockey: the violating robot has to sit, disabled in a penalty box for 20 seconds for a minor violation (10 point penalty in Aim High) and 45 seconds for a major penalty (30 point penalty in Aim High). Ramming, since it is a part of hockey, will be allowed. Hence the yellow banana as an indicator for bumpers. You cannot--however--ram the heck out of your opponents (a 45-second Cheap Shot penalty (a major))

60-second autonomous period where each alliance can score into their goals
Winner goes on defense and collects 50 point autonomous bonus, loser goes on offense. (10-second grace period not a part of the official time)
Three 80-second periods. (auto loser on offense first, then auto winner, then free-for-all; with 5-second grace periods in between not a part of the official time)

If a robot receives a penalty, the other team automatically goes on offense on a power play for the amount of time the penalty is assessed.

If one robot is on its platform the alliance gets a 5 point bonus; 2 its a 10 point bonus, if all 3, 25 points.

GAME ELEMENTS:
Corner targets elevated at 2" above the ground (and measuring 24"x12"x3"

Three middle targets:
+2 targets located about 5' left or right of center and 18" above ground, circular, with a diameter of 20" worth 3 points for each puck that goes trough them. These will have yellow lights for teams wanting to go for them.
+1 center diamond-shaped target elevated at 30" (bottom) with diagonal length (top-to-bottom) of 30" worth 5 points per puck. These will have a green light above them.

12"-high platform at home bases of teams, but 4"drop and then 40-degree ramp up. (Platform will be 20' wide x 1' wide)

WHAT DOES THE HUMAN PLAYER DO:

Take slapshots of pucks into the side goals. (There will be a ramp going up to allow this) or throw pucks onto the field or into the robot. (a few hockey sticks will be included as a part of the KOP)

OTHER NOTES:

Bumpers will be necessary to do well in the game to not only protect against projectile pucks and slapshots, but also to protect against other robots. Robustness will be so important here.

EDIT: You can challenge for a penalty at any time during the human-controlled phase (last 240 seconds) of the game.

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HIGH FIVE !?
:)

Ooops, sorry PO-SER didn't see your posting.

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King Kong was a monster. In fact a giant gorilla. This would help the banana idea out a bit.

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anyone know the font of the 5? that may be a clue as well.

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It's Arial, but I don't think it really matters.

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Just pointing this out. I don't know which one it is, but I remembered the second post from page 4. Yay searching.

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The hope diamond? "In a blue diamond, a few carbon atoms out of a million have been replaced by nitrogen atoms, each containing five valence electrons." The background is blue, there is diamond plating, and a big five. The hope diamond is "circular."

Diamond point cut (combining the diamond plate with the darn dot in dlavery's recent posts):


Maybe that (^--) is the shape of this year's object?

"A rhombus in the plane has five degrees of freedom: one for the shape, one for the size, one for the orientation, and two for the position."

Going along with the baseball references, there is a coalition of philadelphia college baseball teams called the Philadelphia Diamond 5 ( http://www.diamondfive.com/ ). The teams: La Salle Explorers, Penn Quakers, Saint Joseph's Hawks, Temple Owls, Villanova Wildcats. Not sure of the relevance..

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HM..
Considering previous year's hints we surely know dave is a hippy.
SO, that picture gives us diamonds, with a shiny background.
There's a PinkFloyd very famous song named:" shine on you Crazy Diamond", might be it....
the song also has 2 parts, 1 to 5, and 6 to 9...might also be a clue...
here's the lyrics of 1 to 5:
Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now theres a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom, blown on the
Steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter, come on you stranger, you legend,
You martyr, and shine!

You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision, rode on the
Steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions, come on you painter, you piper,
You prisoner, and shine!


Lyrics of 6-9:
Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Pile on many more layers and Ill be joining you there.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
And well bask in the shadow of yesterdays triumph, and sail
On the steel breeze.
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser, come on you miner
For truth and delusion, and shine!

EDIT: i thought of it a bit, and found some really interesting stuff in that lyrics...
Diamonds are actually the srtongest substance ever found, so maybe it will be a really aggresive game with ramming allowed..
Someone has already mentioned hockey..i say Football is also an option, a very exsiting one as well...
ALso' a diamond is beeing mind from under the ground, so maybe it also has something to do wiht the hint...
another thing, a diamond is a very special Optical object wich refleccts light in many interesting ways...im thinking CMUcam2 will be here again thi year?

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The 5 on the diamond plate

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Bananas are rich in potassium
The atomic symbol for potassium is K

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The robots are going to have to "run" 5K's!
That means that either the matches are going to be really long, or the robots will have car engines.

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I like the connection, but with more teams than ever would they really allow longer matches? It just wouldn't be reasonable.