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1086VEX 22-12-2006 20:50

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someone pointed that out several pages ago...
it reminds me of E.T.
i got it!!!! we're using alians for our game piece!!!!

i knew id get it eventually...

~Alex~

raymaniac 22-12-2006 20:56

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if you Google 5, the 5th result is Dole 5 a day. Maybe the game will have something to do with health, then the banana would make sense. Possible games include...
  1. Robots force kids to eat their broccoli (or bananas)
  2. Robots make healthy (banana?) jell-o for dave
  3. Robot exercise
  4. Robots take doghnuts away from kids and give them healthy food (bananas) (any guesses on what dave will do with the doughnuts?:D )
  5. Robots fight an E. coli outbreak


This is getting wierder by the second. I don't even believe myself.

Goober!!! 22-12-2006 20:59

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I think it might deal with "golf"???

the round dimond plate looks like a golf ball and 5-might deal with 5 holes and the blue back ground-I HAVE NO CLUE!!!:D :D :D

Goober!!!

Richard Wallace 22-12-2006 21:11

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400 posts and Dave is still laughing. EDIT: correction -- he is "Just making it up as I go along..."

billy9083 22-12-2006 21:12

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did anyone notice that the five was on like a coin or something and not attached to the background

prettycolors91 22-12-2006 21:13

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obviously we're going to have to build boats with giant magnets to pick up the aluminum pieces off the bottom of a pool. duh. :p

*Time for advil.....*

woody 22-12-2006 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prettycolors91 (Post 544544)
obviously we're going to have to build boats with giant magnets to pick up the aluminum pieces off the bottom of a pool. duh. :p

Especially because you can pick up aluminum with a magnet ;)

Squishylizard 22-12-2006 21:18

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Hi, too lazy to read the whole thread.

Boron is the 5th Element. The comp will therefor be very slow and BORing, as in more of a strategy game than an action game like last years. The diamond plate attests to the incredible heat and pressures involved in this game, heat and pressures found in a Generation II star, such as our sun. The sun is in space, obviously symbolized by the nebulous blue background. THUS, the 2007 FRC game will take place IN THE SUN!!!!!! The only option now is to destroy the sun before it's too late.

BlondeNerd 22-12-2006 21:22

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My Guess: There will be a resonating SMACK as we all bring our hands to our foreheads when the game is actually revealed. It will be extremely obvious once we know the answer :p .

I just read most of these 27 pages of propositions and I think the most feasable idea is that there may be more than one based on the file name and countdown-type look about it. We'll just wait and see...:rolleyes:

Sykan 22-12-2006 21:22

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Maybe the 5 is totally irrelevant to the game or even only represents a boundary of the rules that stretches as far as an irrelevant rule like how many judges need to be on the field to judge

Joel J 22-12-2006 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by billy9083 (Post 544543)
did anyone notice that the five was on like a coin or something and not attached to the background

As soon as you said that I thought of Monopoly..

raymaniac 22-12-2006 21:44

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*sigh* I step away from my computer for 45 minutes and there is already another page in this thread. I'm going to have to read for a long time when I get on tomorrow.

Dasistmeinmoped 22-12-2006 21:46

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for some reason all of this hint stuff isnt getting to me. i survived this entire day without even realizing it was out untill now.

maybe the hints lack of hintyness is because FIRST is behind, struggling to prepare the game, and kick off. bahahah

it could be the scandle of the century

yeah no i need orange juice.

and monster energy.

no sleep.

Josh Murphy 22-12-2006 21:51

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notice no posts from any of the "Masters" like, Baker, Copioli, Beatty, ETC...... HMM makes me wonder, Ithink there are more hints to come because this clue sucks.:)

chris31 22-12-2006 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasistmeinmoped (Post 544560)
for some reason all of this hint stuff isnt getting to me. i survived this entire day without even realizing it was out untill now.

maybe the hints lack of hintyness is because FIRST is behind, struggling to prepare the game, and kick off. bahahah

it could be the scandle of the century

yeah no i need orange juice.

and monster energy.

no sleep.

I am fueled by Monster. I live for it.

The clue just isnt doing anything for me. It has to be more complecated than what I see, but it just isnt interesting me much. I just see a 5 on a diamond plated aluminium, but there must be a deeper meaning.

JB987 22-12-2006 21:58

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Has anyone considered the game, Five Alive?: Players must protect their five lives by either not bringing the point total over twenty-one or by not running out of cards. If a player cannot play a card, he or she loses a life (letter in ALIVE) Last one in wins. Hmmm...

ecg.logan 22-12-2006 22:00

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I'm not sure if this has been suggested already or not, but if you turn the "5" on its side (90 degrees clockwise) it looks suspiciously like a basketball hoop kind of scoring apparatus. Maybe that's too far out of the box, but who knows?

edson 22-12-2006 22:00

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Hmmm... five on a silver colored circle...anyone mention nickels?...anyone famous named Nickel?

raymaniac 22-12-2006 22:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Murphy (Post 544562)
notice no posts from any of the "Masters" like, Baker, Copioli, Beatty, ETC...... HMM makes me wonder, Ithink there are more hints to come because this clue sucks.:)

And dave (as I have pointed out many times).

They won't post because they know anything they say will automatically be asumed to be a game hint, and there is enough chaos and confusion already.

Horman Havoc 22-12-2006 22:12

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Ok so here is wat i got now.

BRING BACK THE RIDDLES!

other than that i got a 5, a diamond plate cirlce, and a blue background...

Atomika 22-12-2006 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edson (Post 544572)
Hmmm... five on a silver colored circle...anyone mention nickels?...anyone famous named Nickel?

According to wikipedia, "nickel" is a defense formation in American football.
Perhaps a hint that defense will be important this year?

Horman Havoc 22-12-2006 22:20

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Alright so i had my father look at the picture and this is his idea:

The diamond plate will need to be hit and "spun" causing either sumthing like dunk tank effect or thats how you score points....

Hey who knows because of how its cropped.

JaneYoung 22-12-2006 22:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Kressly (Post 544234)

I thought this was a very cool post by Mr. Kressly and then I started humming the 12 Days of Christmas....

KelliV 22-12-2006 23:17

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Slap yourselves in the face...hmm...
The Slap-o-matic was on the board game "hands down" aka best game ever!
Hands have 5 fingers, usually.
In that amazingly wonderful game you had to Slap or win when you saw a pair.
Take from my tired thoughts as you wish.

Cpt_Dave_Lister 22-12-2006 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 543315)
Dang! And here I was getting all excited about finding out about the game!!!


-dave



.

Hmmm 5 lines between the first line and the period.. :ahh:

Anybody notice this? o.O? :]

woody 22-12-2006 23:21

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I was wondering about that, but its not always the case. Sometimes its 4, sometimes its 6. I think Dave's just messing with whats left of our brains again.

EricH 22-12-2006 23:49

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Someone mentioned that Joe DiMaggio's number was 5. He has the record for the most consecutive games with one base hit or more (56). Noting what appears to be a goal from '05 in the lower right, and knowing the hint from then and the game name had to do with baseball (not to mention the "diamond" "plate"--both baseball terms), I'd guess that the game will be similar to a baseball game in at least one element.

My latest guess: game piece softballs, some form of base somewhere, played something like '05.

I'm probably way off. Dave and the GDC pulled a good one. I bet a riddle would have been too easy for us to figure out, so a simple game? My head is hurting badly...

Edit: I meant most consecutive. (Sorry, mikemax.) Although could acutally be that way...
Edit2: Indysam was the one who caught Joe DiMaggio's number--back in post 38.

sweep4er 22-12-2006 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Donut (Post 543882)
Also, does the 5 in a circle somewhat remind anyone else of the Ishihara Test for Color Blindness?

Here is an example of this test



Also last year at nationals the possiblity of color changing lights was addressed. Here is another thread discussing that topic.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=46942

Now to my idea. The CMUCam would make a return. The basis of the game would be somewhat like the Milwaukee VEX challenge King of the Rings. http://www.wirobotics.org/vex/2006/index.html Here is a rule manual for those that do not know what the game is all about.

As already mentions the game piece would be kid-sized pool tubes, like life preservers. This is because the clue is a zoomed in picture.

Around the field would be poles, on which the tubes are stacked on, kind of like 2005's Triple Play. This is where the camera comes into play. Near each pole is a color changing light. They change randomly between a limited amount of colors. Then the Ishihara Test for Color Blindness comes into play. Only poles with lights of a certain color can be scored. Maybe for one round red lighted poles count.

The diamonded plated circle functions like the circle in King of the Rings This is the king of the hill portion of the game. Which ever robot gets on the platform at the end of the match gets points.

The only things that I have not accounted for are
1)the number five on the diamond plated circle in the clue
2)the lights change color but there is no real targeting involved. This though could be a built in element so rookie teams can try to place rings on plates while still giving experienced teams the challenge of using the camera to perfect dropping of tubes.

So what does everyone think?

mikemax 22-12-2006 23:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 544608)
Someone mentioned that Joe DiMaggio's number was 5. He has the record for the longest number of games with one base hit or more (56). Noting what appears to be a goal from '05 in the lower right, and knowing the hint from then and the game name had to do with baseball (not to mention the "diamond" "plate"--both baseball terms), I'd guess that the game will be similar to a baseball game in at least one element.



good find on the joe dimaggio stuff...maybe your on to something....maybe its not about baseball but like you said in the post above me...joe dimaggio has the record for THE LONGEST GAMES....maybe the clue is supposed to say that the game is gunna be longer then normal.
or considering it does have refrences to the '05 game...maybe it has refrences to the other games as well...maybe it will be a mix of all of them! i dont know...my head hurts alot

Rickertsen2 23-12-2006 00:11

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Could the round diamond plate simply be part of the field. Perhaps part of some sort of objective in the middle? Cound 5 represent the number of teams or goals or some sort of important element of the game?

Tom Bottiglieri 23-12-2006 00:29

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Wow...

It finally makes sense.

Thank you everyone for the 2 week head start. I can sleep happy tonight.

Dylan 23-12-2006 00:32

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I thought game hints were supposed to be vauge/confusing sentences, has FIRST decided to change from text to graphic?

Of course when you think about it this hint is infinitley easier for them to relate to the game, it could literaly be anything.

This also makes it virtually impossible to guess anything. Unless they give us something more specific I think we should all sit back and save our brains for when we'll need them most; build season.

Alan Anderson 23-12-2006 00:38

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The five of diamonds is widely believed to be the fifth card of Wild Bill Hickock's "Dead Man's Hand" of Aces and Eights.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Murphy (Post 544562)
notice no posts from any of the "Masters" like, Baker, Copioli, Beatty, ETC......

Ever think that they might be enjoying a quiet vacation with family this time of year?

Vashts6583 23-12-2006 00:42

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Ok, so I didn't read through every single post on here, so I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but a friend of mine asked where the poem was while we were discussing this, so in the next 4 minutes and 25 seconds, i created this shakespearean sonnet out of thin air, and now i present it to you as well.

"this game is strange; i do not understand
the purpose for this hint its meaning so bizzare.
So strange no team will have the upper hand
because this clue out there is just so far

the number five on this strange metal plate
placed on a background of the color blue
now things like this i really truly hate
because i can't discern a thing; no clue.

now what the heck could this whole puzzle mean
for surely FIRST would not just put this out
without an answer that they would have seen
for there's an answer there; we'll ne'er find out.

but all i know of this is that we'll try
and once we see the cause, our minds will fry"
©Rob Metzger, 2007

Hope you liked it.

Heretic121 23-12-2006 00:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Boucher (Post 544377)
No way Tom, 2007 should be the first colorblind friendly year of FIRST! Color can be veryyyy bad, meanie crayon box.


AHAHHA! omfg <3 teddles...

color blind friendly game... or maybe... your team should do a color test before highering thier drivers =O espically arm manipulators =P <3

AndyB 23-12-2006 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery
A Book Of Five Rings (Go Rin No Sho), by Miyamoto Musashi. Musashi was possibly the greatest swordsman to have ever lived. His trieste on the Way of the Sword describes his practice of cutting right to the heart of the opposition, in the most efficient and expeditious manner possible. Extended to a way of life, this philosophy teaches an approach to getting right to the central cause of a problem, and finding the most efficient understanding of the true nature of things as the first step in countering the issue.

Musashi, by Elji Yoshikawa. A massive biography about the real life of Miyamoto Musashi. A wonderful glimpse into the changes that Musashi experienced while reaching insights that allowed him to author A Book Of Five Rings. His life defined the term "single-minded pursuit of a goal." His absolute dedication to understanding of the Way of the Sword for his entire life had a purity and purpose that was both enviable and ultimately moral at a level I can only partially grasp.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...02&postcount=9

funstuff 23-12-2006 00:53

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My thoughts are pretty vague (and scattered), but I believe that this might help.

Blue + circle (from the top) + rectangle (from the side) + 5 (gallons) = something to do with the game

A cylinder is a shape that we have never dealt with yet and it is possible that they will throw something new at us. The cylinders might be filled with something for weight, though they probably wont be. The cylinders could be moved around the field strategically, possibly stacked for bonus points.

The diamond plate is on the field somewhere, as always. I doubt they will change the team and alliance format (3 v 3).

clean399 23-12-2006 01:01

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Ok I don't think i have seen this yet but the driver's stations are made of Diamond plate maybe we will have a five sided field.

efoote868 23-12-2006 01:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1086VEX (Post 544538)
it reminds me of E.T.
i got it!!!! we're using alians for our game piece!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody C (Post 544515)
True, and If I've noticed one thing about Dave, It's that he is a tricky little lawn gnome. (figuratively speaking)

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymaniac (Post 544516)
I sense some photoshopping...


yeah...

John Gutmann 23-12-2006 01:38

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the funny thing is that almost everything we are guessing may or may not be right or wrong. We could argue that the game this year has this this and this to do with it solely based on the fact that the game piece from 2006 is a tetra which has 6 edges, and it was the first year to allow 6 team on the field during play..............OOOO conspiracy how fun.........

Winged Globe 23-12-2006 02:36

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A search for "logo" didn't turn this up, so... does anyone think the object in lower right of the blue background is a slightly distorted triangle from the FIRST logo?

Just me? Okay...

mikemax 23-12-2006 03:31

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hmm i dont know if its been mentioned before but...maybe we have been looking at this in the wrong way...maybe it is the number 5 but not the english number 5...in roman numerals 5=V...maybe the letter V is what dave was getting at....a V shaped field...V shaped objects....or even V shaped dimond plated robots!
also if u turn a V upside down...and put it on top of anthother right side up V you get a dimond...so half of that would make a triangle..maybe we are bringing back the tetras....and 2 Vs in roman numarals makes 10 or X...its really late and i could just be crazy...i probibly am but it just accured to me while watching V for Vendetta that 5=V and that got me thinking...so take what you want from this post...or any of my others...these are my ideas..well except the plinko one...that was a teammate of mines

Joel J 23-12-2006 06:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemax (Post 544638)
hmm i dont know if its been mentioned before but...maybe we have been looking at this in the wrong way...maybe it is the number 5 but not the english number 5...in roman numerals 5=V...maybe the letter V is what dave was getting at....a V shaped field...V shaped objects....or even V shaped dimond plated robots!
also if u turn a V upside down...and put it on top of anthother right side up V you get a dimond...so half of that would make a triangle..maybe we are bringing back the tetras....and 2 Vs in roman numarals makes 10 or X...its really late and i could just be crazy...i probibly am but it just accured to me while watching V for Vendetta that 5=V and that got me thinking...so take what you want from this post...or any of my others...these are my ideas..well except the plinko one...that was a teammate of mines

It could be a pyramid?

or wait.. a TRAFFIC CONE? Remember the demand for that a few years ago?

I've also been getting on the baseball game boat..

Remember dlavery's Go! stop! stop! go! "hint" -- when you are playing baseball, you have to "wait" for an opportunity to go around the bases.

I'm also thinking of the game red light, green light that I played with my sister as a kid. Still had to wait for the "opportunity" to move without getting caught.

I also keep thinking of the game Jax.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post502049

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post265745

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post314079

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post261801

Suggestions have been made for hula-hoops, and things of that nature, so I guess its possible.

(btw, I'm just playing off everyone else at this point.. I realized long ago that I didn't have a clue what this hint means..)

Nitroxextreme 23-12-2006 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joel J. (Post 544643)
It could be a pyramid?

or wait.. a TRAFFIC CONE? Remember the demand for that a few years ago?

I've also been getting on the baseball game boat..

Remember dlavery's Go! stop! stop! go! "hint" -- when you are playing baseball, you have to "wait" for an opportunity to go around the bases.

I'm also thinking of the game red light, green light that I played with my sister as a kid. Still had to wait for the "opportunity" to move without getting caught.

I also keep thinking of the game Jax.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post502049

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post265745

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post314079

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...a #post261801

Suggestions have been made for hula-hoops, and things of that nature, so I guess its possible.

(btw, I'm just playing off everyone else at this point.. I realized long ago that I didn't have a clue what this hint means..)

If we are gonna open up the supply and demand question....

who can relate this clue to mailboxes

Veryser127 23-12-2006 10:25

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Here's a thought that my mentor had. He said the Plate reminded him of the front plate of a boilermaker and connected it with the old nickle-plate railroad. So he thinks bridges or rails. I think we will have bridges, because of last years game hint with the banana, i think it is symbolic of slipping and falling off a bridge into a virtual river in the middle of the field.

JaneYoung 23-12-2006 10:33

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*ears perk up*
railroad
boilermaker
bridges

how cool is that....be cool if the robots could have whistles...

Edit: see post below -
Ok, I - was - joking about the whistle part, long low whistle part. Honest.

Billfred 23-12-2006 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane (Post 544663)
how cool is that....be cool if the robots could have whistles...

Yeah, except for that whole writhing in robotic pain part.

(yeah yeah, I know, last year's rules don't apply...)

Cody Carey 23-12-2006 10:42

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We have a motorcycle horn and a car alarm on out T-shirt cannon...
All the better to destroy your eardrums with.

JackN 23-12-2006 11:32

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Two sports related thoughts, 5 is the number of not only Joe DiMaggio the consecutive games with a hit leader but also of Pete Rose, the playuer with the most hits ever, as well several other hall of famers.

My other thought is that Diamond plate is steel, and the Pittsburgh Steelers just won their 5th championship in football so maybe we have a football game piece this year.

nparikh 23-12-2006 11:37

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by calhounian (Post 544499)
Yes, it has been said many times before, but before you go around creating new threads, it is highly advised that you read through the "Official" thread where all discussion about the 2007 game hint is taking place. And even if you do not read through the entire thread, at least use the in-thread search function.

For example, a quick search for "blindness" brought up this post, on page 6 regarding the ishihara test, which you could have then simply quoted and replied to.

Ouch. That made me cringe.

bilal1219 23-12-2006 12:19

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I think it Has some thing to do with Water. lol :D .(This means lexan all over the bot). apartfrom this i Think the robot als have to climb the platform.

But i dont think this clue is allright the one they gave it on the FIRST Website. No none knows what # 5 means it can means any thing. Maybe 5 on 5 robot.

Well, all i wish the game should be easy enough to drive in the game feild like it was last year.

emmell 23-12-2006 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1derboy (Post 544679)
Two sports related thoughts, 5 is the number of not only Joe DiMaggio the consecutive games with a hit leader but also of Pete Rose, the playuer with the most hits ever, as well several other hall of famers.


Sorry, but Johnny Bench was number 5. Pete Rose was #14.

Gene F 23-12-2006 12:46

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This thread is getting very long and so I haven't read it all but.... Has anyone given thought that there might be 5 discs arranged across the center of the field? Each disc might be free rotating or worse yet under the control of the human players (One under control of a randomizing computer). The object would be to move game pieces from the opponent’s side to your side or maybe vice-versa?

Ian Curtis 23-12-2006 12:56

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Can I make a request?

Please, please, don't apoligize for not reading the thread, and then post an idea becuase someone else may have had that same idea on a page you haven't read. Just read the thread before you post! :)

Beta Version 23-12-2006 12:57

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I like the way this combines all the elements of the picture.

It stems from the 5 of diamonds idea

Maybe its not the five of diamonds like our regular cards, because, why is it in a circle of diamond plate? It's the tarot version. The tarot version of diamonds is pentacles and discs. Its not a circle with diamonds on it, its the pentacle/disk in tarot cards. The five of discs.

The five of discs is allways pictured as a cripple outside of a church or biulding in need of help. It represents a lack of material, misfortune, or bieng handicapped in some way. It also means bieng outside where you wish to be, and bieng in need of a support group to accomplish your goals.

One of the team members is disabled/crippled in some way and the other two team members must help them get somewhere/accomplish the task?

To far fetched? What do you think?

Tim Arnold 23-12-2006 13:24

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
I can't see the number, do I instant-win?

fluffanator279 23-12-2006 13:25

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Does no on remember how first likes to layer their hints? So on i go with this...

There was diamond plate in the hint.
There is a musical artist by the name of neil diamond.
Neil diamond has a song called solitary man.
it is festured on his greatest hits album.
there are two prominent sports where you hit others. [something that happens on the FIRST field by pure accident]
Football and hockey. football has 5 lineman that block. hockey has 5 skaters on the ice.
since there isnt anything round in football, this leaves hockey.
hockey has a puck AND is played on frozen WATER.

Theres going to a lone bot of somesort, doing something with a puck. Or the game is just going to be called "Thin Ice" and every move will have to be real delicate.

Imprudent 23-12-2006 13:36

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I would just like to throw out there, that 5 teams would be very difficult to work with. The alliances would be unequal, and if one were to be switching back and fourth between alliances, it would be difficult to determine if they won or lost. After all, FIRST has always worked with even alliances = even number of teams on the field = not possible for 5 teams. As well, last years hint included something about the number of robots, so I'm assuming they would not be using the same clue again. They want to mess with our brains...it's as simple as that. sorry if this has already been said, I woke up under an hour ago..but this is just my 2 cents

AdamHeard 23-12-2006 14:11

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
I think everyone needs to calm down a little bit. Go a little easier on the people making new threads; Sure it's annoying, but is it really the end of the world? Also, at least contribute to the discussion with your post; Otherwise, isn't that just as much a waste as the original post?

//End Rant

I like this idea. Maybe the robots are "color blind" and can only score in certain colored goals that are lit in a changing fashion like we all saw at championships.

Maybe the goals change from blue to red and at the time of score, the points go to the color it is lit. That would make for some interesting gameplay.

housemaster 23-12-2006 14:53

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
I think I'm onto something but don't hold me to it. :ahh: If you google search 5 in a "Diamond plate" circle one of the links is Diamond Plate Specialties. When you go to the online line store of Diamond Plate Specialties and click on Standard Products, then count to the fifth item that has the picture saying Diamond Plate Specialties, it is a vertical tissue box cover that is 5" x 5" x 6 1/4" tall with a hole at the top of it, and it is made entirely of diamond plate. So I'm thinking that this might be something but I'm not sure. :confused:

raymaniac 23-12-2006 15:20

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
I'm beginning to think that the picture is something random they came up with and is not intentionally linked to the game. They're getting amused by us come up with random ideas on what the game is. They know that once the game is revealled, someone will somehow find some random link, which will amuse them even more.

Oh well, let the random guesses continue...

CE Mexican 23-12-2006 16:55

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Hey guys its me again, I was screwing around with the clue in photo shop, and this is what I came up with. To the right of the plate there is something that looks like a face, with what to me looks like a set of pit crew head phones on. My father then looked at the pic and said that the plate almost looks like a number plate from a racing vehicle.

RKElectricalman 23-12-2006 16:58

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Imagine all the angry, disgruntled, tired folk to appear and protest after Woodie, Dave, and Dean tell all of us, during the kick off that the clue wasn't really a clue, but a ploy to please us for a short amount of time, for lack of a real clue. Maybe every clue they thought of was just tooo easy to figure out. .. :( i'm so tired! I'm giving up for a few days, and come back to it later. I just hope the game is as exciting, fast-paced, and lovable as my past two years of FIRST experience. I'm sure it will be :)

Chief Samwize 23-12-2006 17:02

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WIth all these different game ideas the one that appeals to me the most is the hockey game. Imagine 6 robots chasing around a circular object on a slipery surface. there could even be five "pucks". I would love a game like that.

"and team (insert team number here) passes to its team mate team (insert another team number here), one times it, scores!!!

Brandon Holley 23-12-2006 17:33

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I Honestly think that the blue background was intended to be nothing but a blue background and i think dave is having some fun with us by putting these little things in there ie: the banana and traffic light.....kudos dave!

Kyle A 23-12-2006 17:41

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I give up reading through all of these. Every time i get back on, there are more and more pages of stuff. I can wait the 14 days to find out what the game is going to be. I have seen some good ideas though. Maybe in the next two weeks I'll have enough free time to read all the post.

Joel J 23-12-2006 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MORT~11 (Post 544732)
I Honestly think that the blue background was intended to be nothing but a blue background and i think dave is having some fun with us by putting these little things in there ie: the banana and traffic light.....kudos dave!

I disagree, I think there may be things hidden in that background.. 5 things?

You may be right, though.. we'll find out in a couple weeks!

Atomika 23-12-2006 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MORT~11 (Post 544732)
I Honestly think that the blue background was intended to be nothing but a blue background and i think dave is having some fun with us by putting these little things in there ie: the banana and traffic light.....kudos dave!

I agree. The blue background is probably just to make people talk about the probability that there will be a water game.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a bunch of random blue swirls. :(

Greg Marra 23-12-2006 17:58

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I doubt that the blue background is just pure chance.

I think FIRST is changing the alliance colors to prevent things like the Red Advantage we have seen in the past. I think the two colors this year will be Blue, and "clear-plastic-blue". That way, neither side gets an advantage.

EricH 23-12-2006 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Imprudent (Post 544698)
After all, FIRST has always worked with even alliances = even number of teams on the field = not possible for 5 teams. As well, last years hint included something about the number of robots, so I'm assuming they would not be using the same clue again.

They've done 3 teams on the field. That was a bit before your time though--they started 2-team alliances in 1999 or so.

Spark Hawk 23-12-2006 18:05

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You know, I was thinking about the whole "squish meets squash, rise and wash" quote, when I had a thought. "Squish meets squash" makes me think of two things colliding, and "rise and wash" makes me think of said things recoiling from the impact, and possibly getting splashed. When I put those together, I got... BUMPER BOATS! Now that could be interesting, but I'm not sure how it would play as a FIRST game, but still, it could be fun...

Imprudent 23-12-2006 18:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 544741)
They've done 3 teams on the field. That was a bit before your time though--they started 2-team alliances in 1999 or so.

But when there were 3 on the field, it was 1v1v1 was it not? Unless my research has been wrong...

Athleticgirl389 23-12-2006 18:28

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Arnold (Post 544696)
I can't see the number, do I instant-win?

I can't see it either... for the fact that I am colorblind.

psyco_klown 23-12-2006 18:49

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has anyone notice there are two links to clues
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=3712
http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=3720

bobl 23-12-2006 18:54

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My first thought was the five is on a round diamond plate, 5 of diamonds maybe. But then I thought that a 5 diamonds bid in bridge is a game bid, So maybe we’re looking at a bridge on the field again,(blue background blue water). Perhaps the field is laid out like a 5 of diamonds with diamond shaped playing pieces. Maybe even a round playing field.

gizmoman1089 23-12-2006 18:55

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i dont know if this was said already but has anyone noticed that the 5 is no longer transparent??

chris31 23-12-2006 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gizmoman1089 (Post 544755)
i dont know if this was said already but has anyone noticed that the 5 is no longer transparent??

The 5 is still transparent.

I looked at the MD5 hash of the image the day it was put up and now and they are the same. Its the same file.

Md5 Hash: 8aebe707cef8a448f5e0c8f376e67ea2

bobl 23-12-2006 19:09

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
The 5 looks like it is solid black to me.

Imajie 23-12-2006 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by psyco_klown (Post 544752)

Yeah, it's been pointed out before. One page says 2007 Clue and shows nothing, and the other says 2007 FRC Game Clue and has the picture on it.
Probably not very important.

raymaniac 23-12-2006 19:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobl (Post 544754)
My first thought was the five is on a round diamond plate, 5 of diamonds maybe. But then I thought that a 5 diamonds bid in bridge is a game bid, So maybe we’re looking at a bridge on the field again,(blue background blue water). Perhaps the field is laid out like a 5 of diamonds with diamond shaped playing pieces. Maybe even a round playing field.

The field could be made up of five diamond-shaped "islands" connected by bridges. There probably wouldn't be actual water around the islands, but it could be that if you go in the "water" you are automatically taken out of the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imajie (Post 544760)
Yeah, it's been pointed out before. One page says 2007 Clue and shows nothing, and the other says 2007 FRC Game Clue and has the picture on it.
Probably not very important.

Maybe the lack of a second clue is a clue!

JaneYoung 23-12-2006 19:36

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
I can see it so what does that mean? Like the stop go thing?

chris31 23-12-2006 19:44

Re: I believe I figured out part of the clue.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jane (Post 544765)
I can see it so what does that mean?

The image is just part of the ishihara color test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishihara_color_test

Rafi Ahmed 23-12-2006 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobl (Post 544759)
The 5 looks like it is solid black to me.

You could see some diamond plate pattern if you look closely. In some of the photoshoped 5s you can see it better.

Steven_585 23-12-2006 21:26

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judging from the watery clue posted last year...i think the bridges over water is a good idea...:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

AndyB 23-12-2006 21:45

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i sincerly appologize if this has already been posted but, look at a 5 of diamonds playing card.

it is laid out like so:



What if the diamonds are goals.

Sislith 23-12-2006 23:08

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
I still say that the thing we know is that there will be a game of some kind, played with robots on a field of some sort.

Sean.Conway 23-12-2006 23:37

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
i did some website "work" and theres only 4 pictures in that directory, the clue being one of them, and theres no clue2 or 3 or anything, and there also nothing else anywhere else on the website, there total website size is like 400mb, so. thats about it. no other clues

MaHaGoN 23-12-2006 23:38

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5 is a number
Numbers are fun
Fun is subjective
Subjective is a clue
The Clue is indecipherable
Indecipherable is an adjective
Adjectives describe words
Words help explain things
Things are better explained with pictures
Pictures are an example of this years clue
This years clue is difficult
Difficult must describe the game.

There you have it, the game will be difficult... but...

But is a very short word
Words that are short are often to the point
Pointy things are sharp
Sharp things cut
Cut things are smaller
Smaller things are often more valuable
Valuable things are precious
Precious decribes rare jewels
Rare jewels are also known as diamonds
Diamonds are on diamond plate
Diamond plate is in the clue

Now obviously, Diamond plate must be in the game because it ties in DIRECTLY WITH BUT, as shown above..

Above is higher than below
Below is often considered less
Less is more
More is always better
Better is in the eyes of the beholder
Beholders often look at beauty
Beauty is found on the inside
Inside is where most things robotics have occured

Obviously, once again, the game will take place inside... not outside because that would be silly.

Silly is funny
Funny can be taken with a grain of salt
Salt causes heart conditions
Heart conditions are bad
Bad is not good
Good is yet another adjective
Adjectives describe people
People are smart
Smart is what programmers are
Programmers like code
Code is strings
Strings can be long
Long... LONG

Long... there will be a new time limit which is longer than the previous games.

Games are played for enjoyment
Enjoyment is obtained through fun...
Fun is funny...

It all ties in... The pieces are finally falling into place. It is just so logical, I can't believe no one saw it before.

Goldeye 24-12-2006 00:08

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Oh common, who needs photoshop when you have mspaint.exe?
Inverting the colors makes some of these things this easier to notice.

I'll start off with the less speculative part. The spacing of the diamonds on the diamond plate tell us the size of this piece. The center row seems to contain 12 diamonds. I'm guessing (no diamond plate nearby) that the spacing between each is an inch. Meaning this whole circle is a foot long. The one bet I will make is that if there is a circle of a diamond plate...it'll be a 1.5 foot diameter :) (Or one or two, whatever the spacing was on diamond plates)

Onto more speculative bits.

Inverted, the presence of 2 or 3 circular rings of different shades around the diamond plate circle is really obvious. A bit of testing seems to indicate that the rings are actually not circular. Someone more skilled in this than I should verify that. Anyway, anyone have any ideas what those rings (and their skew) could mean?

At the bottom right, however, the second ring seems kinda weird.

Those rings seem to me to resemble the appearence of stripes on along a sphere. The outtermost ring might be smaller, which would agree with that. Perhaps this is some kind of rounded hill. (A hemisphere truncated by a plane.)

On the right it looks like some objects on a plane. With a reflection of them above it sorta. I don't have a clue what it means

RyanN 24-12-2006 00:22

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Please don't flame me, but...
This hint was released Thursday, correct... five days before Christmas.
Five days and "5" as a clue leads me to think we all get a very special Christmas present on Monday. Maybe FIRST wants to mess with our head even more this year than any other year. Hopefully it's a good game like last year.

EDIT: I thought of another idea as well. Maybe the game has something to do with Christmas.

yodameister 24-12-2006 00:48

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanN (Post 544819)

EDIT: I thought of another idea as well. Maybe the game has something to do with Christmas.

:eek:

I sure hope not. I've had enough Christmas for one year. :D

Tri_Lam 24-12-2006 01:08

head at side of pic
 
humm somone mentioned a head in the pic. after closely examining the picture i noticed there was definatly a pic of a head its mid right of pic(i might see 2). my guess is that the blue bacground is really an animation probly from studiomax that as said before a minimized animation/flash im not at my main comp right now so i cant further observe with my paint shop pro anyone have any comments about this??:confused:

irishninja 24-12-2006 01:18

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
I'm leaning to the baseball tie. Perhaps, you can only move to 2nd base when there is a red light, 3rd when there is a blue light, and home when there is a green light? Or some combination.

The field will remain rectangular.

Colour change in autonomous? Perhaps.

The game piece will be torus'...tori?

No water game.

Tri_Lam 24-12-2006 01:31

water game reborn
 
Quote:

Eric wrote:
EEEH!! I Just got an Email forwarded from my mentor from FIRST and at the bottom, the guy put

------underwater------

0.o

I dont want an underwater game!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello Local FIRST Teams,

For the Kick-Off, please have one person identified as the field component build person.
Immediately after the Kick-off, these people will meet in the at the entrance of the auditorium to determine the field components the teams need to build.

This will be announced again at the Kick-Off.

Also note, that for teams who want more to do after the season there is an underwater FIRST "style" competition being planned by a FIRST team.

See message for details.

See you at the Kick-Off!!!

Doug
Remote Kick-Off Coordinator
Go TEAMS!!!!!

--------------- Underwater ---------------

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'm probably just being real paranoid about this stuff but why would he say that?!


in case ur wondering i pulled this from a thread from a myspace thread

maybe this really is going to be a game full of water

Gabe 24-12-2006 02:51

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
I know that it has probably been mentioned before, but my guess is the layout of the field will be five. One center goal and four other corner goals for a total of five. The goals will be goals covered in diamond plate to make them hard to navigate on. Either the goals or the gamepieces (or maybe both?) will have some circular theme. That's just $0.02. The other $0.98 are yours.

i_am_Doug 24-12-2006 05:36

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Ive got it! Diamond plated golf balls!

Interesting photo though, weird game hint..

Joel J 24-12-2006 07:13

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyB (Post 544786)
i sincerly appologize if this has already been posted but, look at a 5 of diamonds playing card.

it is laid out like so:



What if the diamonds are goals.

I really like that idea! A big center goal in the middle, and low goals at the corners.. if not for 2007, then maybe for beyond.

bobl 24-12-2006 08:19

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanN (Post 544819)
Please don't flame me, but...
This hint was released Thursday, correct... five days before Christmas.
Five days and "5" as a clue leads me to think we all get a very special Christmas present on Monday. Maybe FIRST wants to mess with our head even more this year than any other year. Hopefully it's a good game like last year.

EDIT: I thought of another idea as well. Maybe the game has something to do with Christmas.

Maybe 5 gold rings?

chris31 24-12-2006 08:39

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobl (Post 544856)
Maybe 5 gold rings?

With one ring to rule them all.

PS: i just finished watching LOTR

65_Xero_Huskie 24-12-2006 09:37

Re: 2007 Official FRC Game Hint / Email Blast
 
JOHNNY 5 IS ALIVE?!?!?!?

idk, im stumped, this is gonna ruin my christmas..lol


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