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Mike 24-12-2006 14:47

pic: Thousands of manhours of work... coming '07
 

RoboMadi 24-12-2006 14:49

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ehm...........what is this?
Does look like a drive train to me....



Robot Balboa?:p


Imad

Tim Arnold 24-12-2006 14:53

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Sounds interesting, but I can't help to chuckle when I look at the portal and this on the side... No More Teasers in 2007!

Tom Bottiglieri 24-12-2006 14:53

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Looks like Mike got his navigation black box working. Lets see if its useful.

Mike 24-12-2006 15:17

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As a little side note:

All schematics, code, part numbers, EVERYTHING from this project will eventually be released. For under $300 and some basic technical know-how (eg: can you read an instruction manual?), a first year team will be able to implement a very accurate and effective...

Wait, what were we talking about again? ;)

Billfred 24-12-2006 15:23

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Man, that is an exquisite box of Diet Pepsi. ;)

Now, out with the details--judging from the picture and the poster, I assume it's some software kung-fu (and world-class kung-fu at that, knowing 237's track record with such things). Color me interested.

chris31 24-12-2006 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 544931)
Looks like Mike got his navigation black box working. Lets see if its useful.

Is that what the extra board is.

From Mikes post it looks like he is using that board to read the values that would be send over the dashboard port. I assume he is parseing them and logging them to something a CF card maybe. You can then use that log in making your autonomous code. It looks very nice.

Andrew Blair 24-12-2006 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 544931)
Looks like Mike got his navigation black box working. Lets see if its useful.

Alright! I can see two encoders; I imagine you coupled it with a gyro, maybe an accelerometer for wheel slip if you wanted to get really fancy (4 Thousand lines!?! Where does it all go!)? Maybe even a nice input system to easily code a coordinate autonomous, perhaps even on the fly?

If you are doing the black box as Tom stated, I'm impressed. I had started to think about it a couple years back, but never had the initiative or skill to code it. And I'm glad I didn't try! Four thousand lines and change? Crazy, but awesome. Don't feel pressured to release that baby, especially not this coming year. You deserve the exclusive right to an insane autonomous if you created it!

Mike 24-12-2006 23:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Blair (Post 545029)
Maybe even a nice input system


I think I should stop talking now :D

Matt Krass 24-12-2006 23:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 544931)
Looks like Mike got his navigation black box working. Lets see if its useful.

Hey, I programmed that black box ;)

Actually Mike and I are working on this together, its a fun project and so far, its mostly operational, the RC is being a bit uncooperative though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris31
Is that what the extra board is.

That's an STK500 In-System Programmer and prototype board from Atmel, it's the (temporary) home of our blackbox, which monitors the robot and sends a nice packetized burst of information to the RC with all kinds of useful info :)

Heretic121 25-12-2006 00:02

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from tom's comment i cant help to think what havoc this might bring upon with another "black box" like 195 had last year...

Donut 25-12-2006 00:15

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Sounds like fun! I'm glad to know there'll be some impressive autonomous modes out there this coming year. We have to see the results you get from this next season, I hope it proves that sensors really can make such a huge difference.

We'll try to give you a run for your money if we can.

6600gt 25-12-2006 00:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 545039)

I think I should stop talking now :D

I had never seen this or heard about it before until now. Honestly.

But this is the "exact, identical, ditto" IDEA that I had for this year.

But I am no where near where you guys are with it. I am currently working with external PICs and Visual C++ app programming.

Honestly, I have never seen or heard about this before today yet the idea started this summer. That picture is exactly what it was.

I dought, I will be able to get it done though.

Good luck to you guys.

Mike 25-12-2006 00:20

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I forgot I mentioned this project to Tom a while back, seems like the majority of the mystery is gone. Should've known not to trust him with stuff like this :p

Don't think I'm gonna let you in on all the juicy stuff...

This is a joint effort between Matt Krass and I. The testbot and hardware is located at my house, but without him this project would've never advanced from an idea and sketch on paper. He provided a large amount of the technical information that I didn't know prior to this project. Biggest learning experience of my life.

So heres a brief run-down.
  • ATMega16
  • STK500
  • No dashboard port
  • CF card? Don't give me ideas...
  • Havocs a nice word
  • $300 and an hour or two of work and you're up and running
That is all ;)

Tom Bottiglieri 25-12-2006 01:09

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Looks good. I'm wondering how you're going to get "Drive Forward 100 inches" to actually work on the robot hardware side. Some modular drive control functions on the IFI side, perhaps?

We did something similar last year, but it was all done on the IFI hardware. I like bringing it off of the RC though; we ran into some interrupt problems between the encoders, timers, and constant serial traffic between the RC and our LCD screen system.


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