Re: G23 vs. G48
 

I see that, but by G8 it says the only ways to score are... and that is not included, so, by G8, you could be peanialized for tossing it over the alliance walls, but I do see your point. Thanks :yikes:

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

G8 considers robots obtaining game pieces. It does not mention scoring at all. Although G23 could be worded better, I don't see any contradictions in these rules.

HP may:

• Throw rings to the robot over the wall

• Throw rings onto the rack or field over the wall

• Pass rings to the robot through the slot

I would be surprised to learn that the intent of G23 is anything other than to prevent a robot from feeding rings to the human player so that they can be thrown to other locations on the field, or hoarded if the are the opposing alliance's rings

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

yeah this is right.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

<G08> actually seems to say that the HP can't throw rings directly to the robot over the wall. This may not have been intended, but to follow the rules precisely, you'd have to throw the tube over the wall onto the ground, and then have the robot pick it up from the ground.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

The Title of G23 seems to make the Rule clear. It says "GAME PIECES through CHUTE" so this addresses the issue of the tubes being transferred through the chute in only one direction, and does not prohibit throwing tubes over the wall.

I am unsure as to whether robots can catch tubes thrown over the walls however.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

I think that it is OK to have a human player toss ringers on the field, as long as the robot and the human player are not touching the ringer at the same time. The only way that could happen is through the chute.

Correct me if I'm mistaken.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

I think that this makes sense. I think it would be okay for the human player to through the ringer over the wall so long as it hits the ground before anything else, like their robot.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

My opinion exactly. They're just doing this to eliminate human player hoarding.

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

<G48> Entering GAME PIECES onto the field - Only the HUMAN PLAYERS may enter a RINGER
or SPOILER onto the field, either by attempting to throw it to a ROBOT or onto the RACK... If GAME PIECES are thrown, they must be thrown over the top of the Alliance
Station Wall, and may not be thrown around the side of the Alliance Station Wall.

yet this confirms that you can throw them over the top to you bots

also this can mean that we can try and score our selves hummm who can throw that distance?

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

So pretty much we'll just have to wait for FIRST to make the final call. From the past 2 threads it's pretty much a back and forth on how we depict it, the rules counter and recounter each other. So we can spend hours debating this situation or we could be designing and planning our robot, thats just what I think. :]

Re: G23 vs. G48
 

It has just been addressed by update one: