Chief Delphi - 2007 Kit

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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 549207)

Did anyone notice the gear ratio on the banebot transmission 12:1 (I think), but weren't the KOP transmissions some other ratio? isn't 12:1 very slow?

Old ones were 12.75:1 iirc.

I mourn the death of the van door motor. Requiem in pacem, good friend - you have served FIRST well.

I tested out the vacuum kit this afternoon, and it really sucks!!!

That is to say, it seems to work well. It holds on to the inner tubes with no problem.

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Originally Posted by Pat Fairbank (Post 549227)

I tested out the vacuum kit this afternoon, and it really sucks!!!

That is to say, it seems to work well. It holds on to the inner tubes with no problem.

Is that with the 1 vacuum cup in that came in the kit?

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Originally Posted by T. Hoffman (Post 549220)

I mourn the death of the van door motor. Requiem in pacem, good friend - you have served FIRST well.

no no no not the van door take the mini bike or the window motor but don't take the van door
i think we need to make a memorial

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Originally Posted by dhoizner (Post 549232)

Is that with the 1 vacuum cup in that came in the kit?

Yes. The vacuum generator does need to vent air all the time, though, so I'm not sure if it would be too big a drain if connected to a whole robot pneumatic system.

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Originally Posted by chris31 (Post 549219)

Old ones were 12.75:1 iirc.

if we didnt use last years transmission are we allowed to use it this year? last year we used a custom and it was horrible getting it to work..so we have last years that was in the kit of parts that we are wanting to use. any one know??

please let us know
3rd year team but you can still consider us rookies
:]]

Also note the new IFI radio sizes (Both OI and RC), seem to be light enough, but a bit bigger.

Yes the vacuum generator is really cool!!!:)

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Originally Posted by Andy A. (Post 549139)

Teams are perplexed, and frustrated that FIRST doesn't 'get it'. The worry isn't with starting the day off with fresh batteries, but finishing it with fresh batteries. It seems like FIRSTs expectations of battery use and use in reality are very different.

Refs and inspectors at regionals do 'get it' and no trouble is encountered.

Why this has to come up, year after year, is beyond me. Perhaps FIRST should just specify that the kit supplied, or equivalent, battery is legal for use. It would solve a whole bunch of headache.

Now that thats out of my system. I have not be able to go over the kit list in detail. Is anything noteable missing? Specificly things like motors and major electronics components.

I would be much happier if they allowed, like you said, batteries that are equivalent to the new ones, at least for a year or two. As I stated earlier, we just invested in a whole bunch of new batteries last year. Now, I know that some teams don't go through an entire battery in one round, but we do, meaning that we need at least 6 batteries to ensure we have a fresh one, especially if it's eliminations (and sometimes that's not even enough!). With the new batteries, we would have to buy probably 6 or 7 new batteries to have enough to get through an entire regional.

I'm hoping that they'll change it to allow equivalent batteries, though I doubt they will.

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Originally Posted by Pat Fairbank (Post 549236)

Yes. The vacuum generator does need to vent air all the time, though, so I'm not sure if it would be too big a drain if connected to a whole robot pneumatic system.

Thats why we can use 4 Clippard tanks this year.

I haven't physically done anything with the new Transmissions yet, but I wonder how they compare to the old ones we used to receive. Also, I'm not really a big software buff, but the new electronics are kinda cool...

Does anyone know where to find the virtual kit of parts for 2007?

Thanks

Eventually it will be released by Autodesk. But so far it hasnt been.

http://firstbase.autodesk.com/?nd=kitofparts

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Originally Posted by MikeDubreuil (Post 549143)

Lightheartedly, I would like to remind all of you who have made serious investments in batteries to remember to recycle them :D

Yes, I have been wondering if FIRST thought at all about the environmental impact of suddenly making thousands of existing perfectly good batteries obsolete overnight. I suppose they are good for practice and use in previous years robots for demos and such but I still think this was possibly the most environmentally UNfriendly move FIRST has ever made. What a waste. Folks if you don't want, need, or have a good use for your old (now obsolete) batteries from previous years PLEASE consider either finding a new useful home for them or at least properly recycle them.