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robotguru1717 06-01-2007 14:17

Scoring/Wrap around
 
We were trying to figure out the exact scoring system. If you took the Rack and unrapped it to a flat view from 1-8 does the line scoring only go between 1-8. What i'm trying to say i guess is can you have a ringer/keeper line on 7,8,1,2 all on one level that would give you a line of 4, or two lines of 2?

Thanks

-Martin Cacan

Eric W. Jones 06-01-2007 14:24

Re: Scoring/Rap around
 
since the rack is a continuous surface (sort of), then yes, that would be a row of four.

Ian Curtis 06-01-2007 14:39

Re: Scoring/Rap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric W. Jones (Post 548959)
since the rack is a continuous surface (sort of), then yes, that would be a row of four.

Can you quote a rule specifically saying that? I cannot find a rule stating either way.

Steve Howland 06-01-2007 14:44

Re: Scoring/Rap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 548970)
Can you quote a rule specifically saying that? I cannot find a rule stating either way.

Quote:

ROW: a set of SPIDER LEGS that are SCORED for the same ALLIANCE and are adjacent and aligned either vertically or horizontally.
Regardless of the numbers at the top of the rack, the tubes would still be adjacent, and thus would follow the definition.

cbudrecki 10-01-2007 12:33

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robotguru1717 (Post 548955)
We were trying to figure out the exact scoring system. If you took the Rack and unrapped it to a flat view from 1-8 does the line scoring only go between 1-8. What i'm trying to say i guess is can you have a ringer/keeper line on 7,8,1,2 all on one level that would give you a line of 4, or two lines of 2?

Thanks

-Martin Cacan

Now that the FIRST Q&A is open, I've officially submitted this question to the big wigs.

robotguru1717 10-01-2007 12:35

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tb222 (Post 553123)
Now that the FIRST Q&A is open, I've officially submitted this question to the big wigs.

Thats great! thanks. post back here when you get your responce!

Elgin Clock 10-01-2007 12:40

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tb222 (Post 553123)
Now that the FIRST Q&A is open, I've officially submitted this question to the big wigs.

The way the scoring system is currently set up, it does currently what "robotguru1717" quoted.

It unwraps the lines and puts it as 1-8.

Whether or not a ring on the top position of 1 + 8 would count as 2, I do not know.

I'll link a pic of the Beta scoring software screenshot I took at kickoff as soon as I can.

(Or go on Facebook and search for the group "I Love Rack 'n' Roll" and check out my pics in there.)

ewankoff 10-01-2007 12:53

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
I know in the animation the rack flatview is split between rows 6 and 7 so that wrap around casses are neatly avoided. whether or not this will be the case in competition i dont know:rolleyes: .

Elgin Clock 10-01-2007 13:01

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 553129)
(Or go on Facebook and search for the group "I Love Rack 'n' Roll" and check out my pics in there.)

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/26197

I think Greg yoinked my picture. What a Bum!! LOL :p

It's all good though. No harm no foul. :yikes:

Brandon Holley 10-01-2007 13:17

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
soo would a row of 8 give you an infinite score ?! :yikes:


yes im kidding i know its only 256

Rick 10-01-2007 14:23

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
Wrapping counts.

ROW: a set of SPIDER LEGS that are SCORED for the same ALLIANCE and are adjacent and aligned either vertically or horizontally.

kawelch 10-01-2007 17:10

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
The numbers 1-8 on the legs carry no special meaning... it just makes communication about them easier. 7, 8, 1, 2 is the same as 2, 3, 4, 5 for scoring purposes. No I can not quote a rule to that effect but there is no rule saying otherwise which is why I am confident. Something that important would have to be spelled out.

roboticshirt 10-01-2007 20:00

Re: Scoring/Wrap around
 
well about that 7,8,1,2 thing if u look in the manual they have an unfolded pick of the rack and the scoring arrows go on each sid eof the pic...

<-->O<>O
->OO O<-

O= ringer/singleton
</>= end of line
[empty space]= spoiler

cbudrecki 12-01-2007 12:35

OFFICIAL WORD FROM FIRST Q&A
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GDC, FIRST Q&A Forum
The numbers on the top row of Spider Legs are for reference purposes only. Potential rows are determined solely by adjacency and "wrap around" the reference locations. So a set of scored Spider Legs 7, 8 and 1 would be considered a row of three.

Officially from FIRST


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