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zander_108 07-01-2007 22:19

possible ramp/lift configurations
 
I was thinking about what it would be like to have a huge, unfoldable 12'' ramp that could be deployed into the home zone, right after atonomous. This would alow your alliance partners to get up on it, and it would bock a good deal, or all, of the oposing alliances rings. I know that it would be illegal to just leave something on the field, detatched... but what if you "re-attached" at the end? would that be allowed? Please give me your input.

JamesByrne 07-01-2007 22:26

Re: possible ramp/lift configurations
 
This sounds like a good idea if it is posable, I am not shure if the rules let you, please let me know. Thanks.

trilogism 07-01-2007 22:31

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Robots can't have a ramp deployed, unless they are in their home zone, because of tipping hazards. The robots probably don't want to get on top of another until the end. And you probably can't have a detachable component, i.e. a ramp.

Kevin Sevcik 07-01-2007 22:34

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Can't have anything detach from your robot at any time, unless it's completely by accident. Even if you pick it back up. G40 is pretty clear. You can't intentionally detach part of your robot. If you could, I'd just as soon deploy a rack blocker on the opponent's side of the field and pick it up at the end of the match right before the bell.

zander_108 07-01-2007 22:36

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Ohh well... thats too bad.:ahh:

Joe J. 07-01-2007 22:36

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<G40> states robots my not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisims on the field.

So If you detach then reattach later, you would have intentionally detached so it would not be allowed

RyanN 07-01-2007 22:41

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Nah, you can't do that. Look at <G40> in Section 7 in the Manual.


Quote:

<G40> Detaching mechanisms - ROBOTS may not intentionally detach parts or leave multiple mechanisms on the field. Violations will result in a 10-point penalty per incident. If an intentionally detached component or mechanism significantly impedes access to the RACK or an ALLIANCE ROBOT during the END GAME, the offending ROBOT will be disqualified from the match.
I thought it was a good idea until my friend pointed that out to me. Sorry to ruin your idea...

zander_108 07-01-2007 22:42

Re: possible ramp/lift configurations
 
just wondering... Does that still count as "attached" if its on a tether or cable?

T3_1565 07-01-2007 22:45

Re: possible ramp/lift configurations
 
as far as I know if it on a cable or tether it is still attacted to your robot... but then again if you deploy a ramp at the beginning you need ALOT of cable for your errands driving around, and then you would have to wind it all back up and make sure that it doesnt interfer with the other robots. Why are so many people stuck on a ramp anyways.. I mean I understand its easy, but so many questions about it lol

Taylor 07-01-2007 23:11

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Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.

zander_108 07-01-2007 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by boiler (Post 550696)
Also, consider that outside of the home zone any horizontal aspect can't exceed 72". In that aspect, the cable would be more of a leash.

hmmm...:ahh: does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?

EricH 08-01-2007 01:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zander_108 (Post 550703)
hmmm...:ahh: does that refer to during the whole game or just when the robots are back in the home zone at the end?

Outside the home zone, the limit is 72". Inside, it's the size of the home zone. This applies all game. (See section 8 for details about size.)

Dan Zollman 08-01-2007 10:10

Re: possible ramp/lift configurations
 
You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.

nuggetsyl 08-01-2007 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by worldbringer (Post 551026)
You could still unfold your robot into a ramp setup that blocks your opponent's ringers, if you stay there the whole time.

I was talking about that the other day but man that is a huge robot.:yikes:

Guy Shapira 08-01-2007 17:24

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i think that even if you can leave a ramp at the home zone it counts as part of your robot and i cant think of a way to lift the ramp 10cm above the floor level


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