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Car Nack 08-01-2007 10:25

Car Nack Predicts 01/08/07
 
Car Nack Predicts

The scoring of keepers will be a relative rarity. In fact there will be at least one Regional where there will be a total of less than five keepers scored for the entire competition.

Car Nack has spoken

Greg Needel 08-01-2007 10:32

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Originally Posted by Car Nack (Post 551038)
Car Nack Predicts

The scoring of keepers will be a relative rarity. In fact there will be at least one Regional where there will be a total of less than five keepers scored for the entire competition.

Car Nack has spoken

Agreed. I believe that scoring keepers is like scoring tetras in the center row in 2005, It gives you an advantage but not many teams were able to do it. The great car nack has a good prediction here.

Jeff Rodriguez 08-01-2007 10:35

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I disagree with this one.
While an alliance scoring 3 keepers may be rare I think most matches will have 1 or 2 scored.
Scoring keepers will be more like scoring tetras on your home row in 2005.

Levin571 08-01-2007 10:54

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I too disagree, now that the camera has become so common in the last few years, I expect that teams more teams will be able to use it effectively.

I predict that in at least one competition, there will be five or less robots that score the keepers not using dead reckoning.

Billfred 08-01-2007 11:23

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I think the Great and Wise Car Nack has the gist of it, but I believe that the first robot to get a keeper on the rack will be the only robot to get a keeper on the rack for a given match. After that, there's gonna be wiggleville.

Raul 08-01-2007 11:31

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Originally Posted by Levin571 (Post 551055)
I too disagree, now that the camera has become so common in the last few years, I expect that teams more teams will be able to use it effectively.

Are you sure about this? The fabrication rules have been tightened up so that you cannot do any SW work at all after ship, except for the fix-it windows.

Richard Wallace 08-01-2007 11:40

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Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 551078)
I think the Great and Wise Car Nack has the gist of it, but I believe that the first robot to get a keeper on the rack will be the only robot to get a keeper on the rack for a given match. After that, there's gonna be wiggleville.

I concur.

BandChick 08-01-2007 11:56

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I agree somewhere between the great Car Nack and what Billfred said (hehe, say that five times fast). I do think teams have been able to develop better code for the camera, but I think it's going to be very similar to capping the center goal, like Greg suggested. Plus, in my opinion, there's only a SMALL emphasis on scoring in autonomous, so I can't imagine that many teams are going to "go for the gold" so to speak.

EricH 08-01-2007 11:59

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Originally Posted by BandChick (Post 551103)
I agree somewhere between the great Car Nack and what Billfred said (hehe, say that five times fast). I do think teams have been able to develop better code for the camera, but I think it's going to be very similar to capping the center goal, like Greg suggested.

It's not similar to the center goal in '05 at all. Now we have lighted targets, so we can actually see where we are going. I wouldn't be surprised if several teams score keepers, just not at the same time.

nuggetsyl 08-01-2007 12:48

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I partly agree with car nack. I think there will be keepers scored in auto but not using the camera.

Elgin Clock 08-01-2007 12:50

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To add my own prediction, most of the keepers ever scored will be along the bottom row of the rack.

Cory 08-01-2007 16:03

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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 551143)
To add my own prediction, most of the keepers ever scored will be along the bottom row of the rack.

Why? It's much harder to score them there than at the top.

Donut 08-01-2007 16:11

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Originally Posted by nuggetsyl (Post 551140)
I partly agree with car nack. I think there will be keepers scored in auto but not using the camera.

I partly agree with this, and Carnack will be right for one regional (it might only be one, but it'll still be true). Although teams have gotten the camera working last year, I don't think using the camera to find the goal will be the hard part; I think making sure you're at the right angle to put a keeper on one of the legs will be.

Koko Ed 08-01-2007 16:18

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Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 551078)
I think the Great and Wise Car Nack has the gist of it, but I believe that the first robot to get a keeper on the rack will be the only robot to get a keeper on the rack for a given match. After that, there's gonna be wiggleville.

Bingo.
I also don't think there will be alot of scoring with the rack swinging all match long unless there are particualrly skilled teams involved.

Matt Leese 09-01-2007 11:42

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While I agree that scoring of keepers will be rare, I don't think it will be as rare as scoring a vision tetra was in 2005. To me, the autonomous problem this year seems an order of magnitude simpler: you start out with the scoring item which means you only have to find and drive to the goal. That doesn't mean it's going to be easy, just a lot simpler than that year.

Matt


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