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I was surprised at how long it lasted in there; the screen stayed on for quite a while. Many of the other things they've blended went much quicker. (I found that website a few months ago while I was practicing being a professional at crastinating for a school report. It's hard work being a pro crastinator!)

The other thing that surprised me is that the blended iPhone on Ebay is already up to a $570 bid! That's quite an expensive bid for a $400 Blendtec blender and the remains of an iPhone. :yikes:

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I'm not sure why someone would buy a blended iPhone, but I would appreciate if someone buys my EBAY auction.:yikes:

Apple iPhone Hard Case Design with Prototype for SALE

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...5349&rd=1&rd=1

I'm looking for some input on trying to sell it on EBAY.

I figured the easiest way to go about selling my idea was through EBAY and so thats what I decided to do.

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You also have to consider that when you don't have service, the phone wastes battery power searching for a signal to use. My phone would last days in ideal conditions (good, non roaming service). But since i'm indoors most of the day, I must recharge my phone nightly or it would die.

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Huh, I should have known there would be an iPhone thread here...:p I was about to post the "Will it blend?" video, but I'm pretty sure it's been posted in one of these 6 pages. People do have mixed reactions about it though.

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The only thing that I can't believe is that you can't text message, definite put down.

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You can't Text Message!!! I thought they had everything for it. That will probably stop a lot of people from buying it.

Srry to say, though, I do belive you can text message on it, there's gotta be a virtual keyboard or something on there! Otherwise, you probably wouldn't be able to access the internet near as easily on there.

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The only thing I can't believe is that you can't read. Or look at the device. OR ANYTHING.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/phone/

I mean for pete's sake, there's an SMS button RIGHT THERE ON THE FRONT with TEXT printed under it.

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Oh man sorry about that, that was just a rumor that I heard from my idiot cousin, I gave him a "Thanks a lot" and yeah I apologize.

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Yup you sure can text message!

Here is how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WtSjCShVcQ

Here is an article I found on how happy iPhone customers are:

http://yahoo.usatoday.com/tech/wirel...ne_N.htm?csp=1

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So this is a bit ridiculous...

Apple Store to Begin Charging Entrance Fee

So much for browsing.

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I think that was a joke

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Oh, well good. Haha I can't exactly look at digg at the moment...

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Lol, it was a survey of 200 people. From AP Stats that I took, considering that 200 is not anywhere close to how many iPhone buyers there are, their is not a large enough sample size to say that the article is accurate. Notice how they dont say the results of the 1000 sample sized survey ;)

See, I have a Treo, I find it way superior to the iPhone. Oh, a big problem about the iPhone, you can not take out the battery. Something happens, you are screwed unless you happen to be at the Apple Store and plan on spending money to have them fix the problem or change the battery. lol. I personally don't care much for it, I find it hyped, like most Apple products (not saying that all Apple products don't deserve it, just saying this got too much). Plus from trying it out, I tend to hit the wrong keys a lot more often than I would on my Treo. Overall, I would give the iPhone a 7 out of 10 because it has wifi.

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Are you serious? You're saying that the Palm Treo is better than the iPhone. To start, the iPhone keyboard has bigger buttons than the treo keyboard. how could it be harder to type on? The iPhone has twice as much System RAM as all other smartphones, and up to 128 times the Flash RAM. You'd have to pay at least $100-200 to catch up with a flash card. The browser you get is the only one on the entire market that actually shows the internet as it really is. Other phones just have pages formatted for the phone's screen. God knows what you'll see when you browse a site you just made yesterday.

Heck, the iPhone is even cheaper!
Look: http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM...B41E0D305.html

Yes, the iPhone does cost $499-$599, but has a service plan that's over $20 cheaper than other smartphones (this is considering that all plans have the same minutes and unlimited data).
Cell phone companies love to trick people by offering free or nearly free phones, and charging them tons of money on service plans. People don't say the Motorola Q is a $2,420 phone. they say it's a $150 phone, which obviously isn't true.

when people talk about how expensive the iPhone is, they don't dare compare it to other phones, they just add up all the costs and talk about how you could get that money and invest it. The same would go for any other smartphone.

And if you're still complaining about how hard the keyboard is to use, I just typed all this (except for the link) on my iPhone. No Problem.

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Not true. I have an iPhone and I just wipe the screen with my shirt and it's clean. I also do keep my hands clean.

and i've been scratching the screen with my fingernails and i don't see any scratches.

To that part about dishing out the money, you're definitely not willing to dish out $2,420 on a Motorola Q or a blackberry pearl, or $2,720 on a Palm Treo.

Where am I getting all these numbers from?

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM...B41E0D305.html

the iphone is actually cheaper than other smartphones when you compare price of the phone AND service plan.

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1) Using the iPhone with a data plan is worthless because it only has EDGE.
2) The iPhone doesn't have a keyboard.
3) I like that the browser shows me YouTube as it really is, and not just parts of it. Then again, see 1.
3) No memory card slot
4) No A2DP
5) No voicedialing

The iPhone data plan is the same $20 as the unlimited data plan I have with ATT right now, so that won't cost me any extra.

$650 for a Nokia N95 right now with no commitment, versus $600 (can't buy more memory later) for the iPhone with a two year commitment. The HTC S621 is $390 and the Nokia E62 is $300 - both unlocked. I have seen the iPhone for sale places other than Apple/ATT - for $800. Now then, which is cheaper?

Ktkxbye.

I'll be happy when the Kaiser arrives, or the Nokia N95 shows up over here, or I get lazy and just import. (Or I graduate and get a real job so I can afford a mobile solution)
Not familar with the Kaiser? Let me share with you!
WM 6, 128 system ram, wifi, full bluetooth, triband HSDPA and HSUPA, GPS, 3 megapixel camera, sweet flip up screen.

The iPhone has some serious shortcomings that I hope they rectify in future iterations.

Wetzel

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You greatly underestimate edge. If you have full bars, it's just as fast as normal cable internet. Plus, there's wifi.

And i can't find a 16 GB SD card that is affordable. they cost like 300 bucks.

in response to 3, there are over 10,000 youtube videos on the iphone.

as i just said like 2 posts ago, the iphone HAS a keyboard, and works BETTER than physical (and cheezy) cell phone keyboards. Before you consider buying this "Kaiser", make sure that it has good battery life–3G is very battery inefficient.

and lastly, you did NOT consider the phone plan in the price. I'm comparing the bestselling smartphones with equal plans. Go to my other post and see that link.

I <3 research.
 

16 GB SD cards are expensive. What does that have to do with this discussion?

That said, EDGE is terribly slow. With a theoretical maximum of 473.6 kbit/s for EDGE there is no way it can get close to touching my cable modem. I just ran a speed test and got 6065Kbit/s down and 672 Kbit/s up. HSDPA provides down-link speeds of up to 14.4 Mbit/s theoretically. How is EDGE anywhere near that?

And as far as that other website goes, their conclusions are junk. The second sentence shows their obvious bias before we get to any data. They say the TyTn costs $860 vs the iPhone $600, but the TyTn (branded as the Cingular 8525) is $299 with contract, or $599 without direct from ATT. The same goes for the rest of the prices they list, with the ones I checked being at the least $130 more than they are available for.

As for plans, the iPhone plans are exactly the same as the regular plans according to ATT, with the exception of the unlimited data plan for the iPhone listed as $20 vs the $19.99 for the other smart phones. Oh, and you have a choice to get the data plan or not with non iPhones.

Apple fanboys spread just as much FUD as MS fanboys.

Wetzel

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It was a lot of iPhone bashing, and I dont want to anger people. Anyways, my plan is i think 30 at most per month with a Palm Treo 700W. I have a wifi card i can just put in, as well as the expansion slot can allow me to hold more memory. Just think that Treo > iPhone by a long shot.

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that guy did have a point

There are three things to consider when calculating the value of a phone:

1. Up front cost
2. Cost of service plan
3. Resale value

Most phones are lucky to be worth anything after two years. However, apple products such as iPods (which are doing well in the music player market) retain most of that value.

Don't judge the iPhone until you've actually used one (for more than 30 seconds, I hope). It's a great peice of techmology.

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Resale? On a cellphone? The number 3 thing to consider when figuring the value of a cellphone is it's resale value? Are you kidding?

How about things like customer service, reception in your area, interoperability with your important apps, future upgrade path and a dozen other things that I consider far more important then how much I could hock it for. My cellphone serves me till super glue and electrical tape can no longer hold it together.

If one of your prime concerns is how much you can sell the thing for when a newer, shiny Apple product comes out, you've really bought into 'iLife'. Besides, no one has any idea what people will be willing to pay for a two year old iphone, so it doesn't really make the Iphone a good deal now.

Hey, its a nice phone. But it does have some pretty bizarre shortcomings, and I don't think it's worth it. When it can use a 3g network, replace its battery, copy and paste and not crash like a pinto, I'll think more of it. Not being married to ATT would be nice to. I doubt I'll ever want or need one, but at least it might seem worth all the chedah.

-Andy A.

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The first update was released yesterday for the iphone.

I charge my iPhone battery every night. ( I use it a lot)

The EDGE is decent when you have full service otherwise it is not too great.

I'm pretty sure the EDGE speed also depends on where you are at and how many people are using it.

I am a machinist and I use my iPhone with slippery, slimy, greasy, dirty and wet hands. Just wipe it clean thats all! The screen wipes clean easily.

When I bought my iPhone I compared plans and phones to Verizon.

iPhone plan:

$60 a month
2yr contract
200 txt messages
unlimited m2m
5000 night + weekends
450 anytime
unlimited data

Similar Verizon PDA/Smartphone plan:
$80 a month
1 year or 2 year contract ( I am pretty sure that they will CHARGE you lots more for the phone you want if you do a 1 year contract)
0 txt messages .15 cents each
unlimited m2m
unlimited night + weekends
450 anytime
data access for email

The activation fees are the same.

iPhone plan for 2 years = $1,440 + phone
Verizon plan for 2 years = $1,920 + phone

The difference $480 or nearly enough to buy the 4GB iPhone.

So even if your XXX phone for XXX wireless provider is free I figure the iPhone is cheaper.

Now if you keep your iPhone for THREE years do the math.

I realize I am only comparing the iPhone plan to one other provider's plan, but you can compare others if you wish.

I also realize that the plans are slightly different but 200 x .15 cents per txt is $30.

Verizon has unlimited nights and weekends, but I don't spend 83 1/3 hours on the phone during nights and weekends so that doesn't matter to me.

I have to chuckle when everyone complains about the cost of the iPhone because I know everyone else that has a phone similar in functionality is paying for their phone every month verses paying for the phone upfront.

That's all.

Maybe you know of a better wireless plan than I do.

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I do not put my faith in something that does not have a fail safe plan.

Point 1 of Why I hate the iPhone - There is no keypad (yeah we are in a technological era but hey if that TouchScreen breaks / or the LCD Cracks guess what you now have a $400 piece of garbage you no longer can control)

Point 2 of Why I hate the iPhone - It uses edge instead of the newer network.

Point 3 of Why I hate the iPhone - No phone is worth sending out for battery replacement if you can't do it yourself. Why should I lose the phone for a couple of business days when they should've designed it so that the end user can replace the battery when neccessary.

I'll put it to you this way when an AT&T Representative talks you out of buying the phone then obviously there has to be a good reason. All of the above in which he pointed out to me and I whole heartedly agree.

Heck if the phone breaks you can't even bring it to the AT&T store, you have to bring it to an iPod store for ANY service.

You know what I'm quite happy with my Motorola Razor v3xx I can change the battery if I need to and bring it to the appropriate store for repair hassel free let alone having a working keypad to use instead of an imagineary one.

Sorry to knock your "favorite" phone but it's over priced and under developed. Good Luck with it.

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The iPhone plan costs almost exactly the same as the regular ATT plans, but with the REQUIRED iPhone data plan costing a penny more. So my 'free' phone with ATT costs me 24 cents and the cost of the iPhone less over two years. At $599 for the phone, thats significantly cheaper.

Wetzel

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But when you HAVE that phone, you CAN'T USE IT! because there's no plan so you have to buy a plan!

plus for those of you saying that the iPhone doesn't have a keyboard, it does, and it works very well (the keys are bigger). And the screen is glass (very strong glass), and cannot be scratched. A few strength tests were made on the iphone; one where this guy put an iphone in a bag of keys and bolts, and shook it like crazy, and only the back was scratched. the screen had no scratches whatsoever.

and what if the palm treo's screen cracks. then you can't use it. Please–when you point out a fault or disadvantage in the iPhone, please look at other smartphones and think.



This is what I was trying to say all along. I think the government should make cellphone companies put the price of the service plan too on advertisements. It's really false advertising. The ad may say, "Buy one RAZR get one FREE!", but you have to pay for service plans too that cost a lot (especially Verizon's).

does anyone agree with me on that one?

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Maybe you stated this in a previous post, but what phone do you have?

Does it have the functionality that the iPhone has?

This guy puts his iPhone in the toilet, drops it and then steps on it....:ahh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kopBQhKt0Ds

So what applications or programs have you found for the iPhone?

I want to try ifuntastic but I don't have a mac.

I've tried seeqpod.com and http:/iphone.beejive.com

I have not really researched what people are creating for the phone.

Has anyone found anything really interesting?

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You can go to http://iphoneapplicationlist.com to check some of the apps available for the iPhone.

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Surprised no one already posted this.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/

"Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned."

Looks like I am getting $100 back!

:p

I am surprised a company would actually give you money back after hundreds of people complained of the 33% price drop after the phone was on the market for two months.

Next question is what should I spend the money on in the Apple store?