iPhone
 

I'm in love. And its with a piece of electronics you can slip in your pocket. Apple, thank you for making the world a better place.

www.apple.com/iphone

What do you think?

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Its nice to look at. I like looking at it. I will keep on looking at it, and also my $599.00. $599.00 is nice to look at. I like looking at it. I will keep looking at it..

:)

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It's amazing!!! Everything that you could need and they way that everything works. It runs OSX on it too. browsing multiple web pages, iPod, PHONE, and the voicemail is so cool!!

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Oooohhh, Purty...

For a fully featured Video Ipod with palm-pilot functionality, $599 isn't that bad at all. When you add in all of the excellent phone capabilities, That number doesn't look so big any more.
Not that I have $599 to spend on a Phone/Ipod/Palm-pilot , I just think it is a pretty good value :)

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Cingular is the only downpoint. I'm going to wait until a rival version is offered on a better carrier.

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Nothing would come close to it for a while. Plus what's wrong with Cingular. (Apple signed a multi-year contract with them)

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It's nice to look at, but I'm not planning on dishing out $600 for a phone any time soon. My worry is with the touchscreen, it will get incredibly greasy from hand oil and it seems like it'd be amazingly easy to scratch up.

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I was just watching the keynote, and all I can say is wow. I was recently considering purchasing a new phone and a new iPod because the phone I have is four years old, and I accidentally lost my iPod .. but I think I can wait until June now.

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This is just my own opinion (because everyone in this thread likes the phone so much) but I think it looks ugly. And that's from looking at the Apple product page. I wouldn't buy it just because of the way it looks. I rather spend my money on a 18V DeWalt cordless tool set.

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"More RAM for comp" beats "phone i'd use maybe once a month" everytime.

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I was looking at that thing last night! Its just about the coolest thing i could have ever expected them to dish out! It is a little big but i think the features make up... however $599... :ahh:

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I love the phone, but...
A lot of us can't take cameras into work; this includes cellphones with camera capabilities. Why does the cell phone market ignore us?

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I'm waiting for Cisco, who owns the copyright on the name "iPhone" to sue Apple for marketing a product with the same name as theirs.

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Looks like the lawyers lose this one!

Article here.

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I expect to see a big price drop on Blackberries and Treos once these babies start showing up in the corporate world. I never had much interest in any of those (because of their size and miniature interfaces), and was perfectly happy with my Moto cel - until I saw the iPhone demo online last night. If they can deliver them in quantity, as someone said on Slashdot, Apple's going to print money with these things.

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I'd like to see Sprint carry it within 2 years when i renew my contract. Then I get the discounted price (which i bet will hover around $100 or so).

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What ever happen to the good ol days when all you needed from a phone was to make and receive calls. :rolleyes:

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I will have one, I think that the price is not that bad for the all of the things that the iPhone will do. I am not a huge fan of cingular but its better then nextel so it wont be that bad.

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right now it's 500 to 600 dollars WITH 2 year contract. I haven't even seen the retail price on this thing. I haven't beeen excited for any phone, but this beautiful piece of electonics made me do a double take, then a triple and then a quadruple glance.

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I really, really want this phone. And thankfully, I have Cingular already.

It's just so amazing.

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Come on Apple.
No highspeed internets?
No removable battery again?
No expandable memory?
No highspeed internets?


Bah.

Wetzel

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This is simply an amazing convergence device, its beautiful how simple it works together. I would love carrying arround that much power in my pockt, need to see what Canadian company picks it up (probably rogers..). But I would put money down for that phone.

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I look at the Ipod craze and the cell phone craze and just scratch my head. I don't get it.

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Built in WiFi? Sure, EDGE does suck, and I think they will/should upgrade that (remember, specs aren't final!).

With the iPod it was a different story, music vs. needing to get calls. I think Apple should have included a replaceable battery with this unit, but the whole "fraud Apple battery market" will probably pop up, people will half heartedly report it and blame it on Apple, etc. Rinse, repeat.

Same with battery. They should but they have to deal with bad products hurting their own.

See #1.

Overall, a solid, but expensive, product. Ah, it's like the Apple of yore, standing ovations at a keynote, big new shinny products, which are priced outside your reach, and that 1st gen goodness.

I will not buy a 1st gen iPhone. Never ever ever. I WILL get an iPhone (dad, can we switch to Cingular?) sooner or later when my contract expires/price drops. This is like the first iPod, they carve out a standing as a great product, then lower the price.

I do have some frustrations though.....

-3rd party apps? Can you install those or will you be locked into only what Apple offers?
-Spread to other providers? I've heard Cingular has a 6 month contract (to last them through the first christmass season with the iPhone) with the phone.
-Price. Wow. I think it's partially done to prevent iPod sales decreases and to repay the 2.5 years of development. Get it $100 lower then you're talking, and get more of an iPod presence in there (aka, more than 8gigs of memory)

Overall, I'm excited and have major gear lust.

Re: iPhone
 

Ok, I'll amend my question.

No mobile highspeed internets?

As for "fraud Apple battery market", have you seen a problem with any other phone? You can buy brand name, or non brandname batterys for just about any electronic device that needs them. 5 hours talk time, with no option to cary a spare battery? Guess Apple isn't targeting power users.
No expandable memory because other products might hurt the iPhone? Then use a standard like SD (or SDHC to be sexy). Not including features because someone else might make a product that might damage what you are selling is ridiculous.

Wetzel

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I think my contract with Verizon runs up about a year after the iPhone is slated to be released. I don't like Verizon because they are still using CDMA phones, which makes it much harder to switch between phones on a whim.

What worries me most about the iPhone is not the expense of the phone but the expense of the plan. An unlimited data plan is more expensive than it should be from most carriers, and they better not charge you $.10 per text message on top of that. If you're fronting $600 to get the phone in the first place, an additional $70/mo in cell service & data plan is really going to hurt.

And even though Jobs called this "the new iPod", it can't be the only new iPod they are going to come out with. I expect to see something that looks a lot like the iPhone except without wireless and cell service come out before the end of the calendar year. A multi-touch user interface and big-screen video playing are just too good to restrict to the smartphone market.

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OK, I have to admit it, the iPhone does look pretty cool, but I really do not see the need for it.
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cons...
I already have an iPod, so no need for the music.

Wireless most computers have wireless, if I am going to need it I will use my laptop.

Cingular, I have Cingular... aka worst service provider ever! Anyone who has talked to me on my phone has realized that it drops more of my calls than I can even count on a daily basis. I would suggest thinking twice before switching to it, the only plus is unlimited mobile to mobile to other cingular customers.

The price, I think we all know what that is about... free moto Razr, or $500 Apple... let me think.

pros...
You can watch TV shows, the more people that watch TV the happier I am when it comes time for job hunting!

4:3 and 16:9 nice touch, I like it alot

Thin, thin phones are nice

Apple Inc. Product, I love Apple products, my ipod, computers, and everything else that I have purchased are amazing, not to mention the friendly staff that you can go visit at the store when you mess things up.
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Over all I am unsure, I really see no need to spend that kind of money on something that I already have, sure it will be nice to have it all in one place but my laptop travels everywhere with me as does my phone and ipod.

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I really want one of these phones. I have Cingular now, and in this area Cingular is amazing. Too bad I just got a new contract. (Plus there is no way I would pay 500-600 bucks for a phone) I can't wait for the price to come down and for my 2-year contract to be up.

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I don't think it will be limited strictly to mobile devices, either.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...touch+ screen

I wouldn't be surprised to see all computers working off of this multi touch technology in the future.
Using a mouse is so 20th century!

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I interpreted the $499/$599 as actual retail price. Sorry about that.

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I'm no means appologizing for Apple, just trying to get into their heads here...

I do remember awhile ago that Moto and several other companies were looking into exploding cell phone batteries (no relation to Sony) that were 3rd party and crappy.

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Word on the street says there will be a CMDA version available within the next 2 years. I dont see Apple and Verizon playing nice though. Maybe it will be available on Sprint/Nextel?

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I agree, I also see the iPhone having parallels with the iPod, we'll soon see a iPhone nano or some sort that'll just be a small candybar phone.

As for who's next, the exclusivity contract is only for 6 months. Apple then has to convience others to change their system around for things like Visual Voicemail, and my guess is that T-Mobile will be next, then possibly Sprint/Nextel. I think Verizon will get on board but that won't happen till Apple's selling a bunch.

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Oh nose! Lawsuit!

Apple hadn't finished their talks with Cisco over the iPhone trademark and went ahead and announced it anyway. Cisco thought that wasn't very nice of them and so they filed for an injunction. Bad Apple! No iPhone for you!

Wetzel

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I'd have to side with Cisco on this one. Though people anticipated Apple to come out with an iPhone, Cisco DID come out with it first. Also, how fair would it be if Apple tried to trademark anything with "i-" anything or the term "pod". They may have made the terms popular, but they certainly don't own them.

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Except for the whole fact that they haven't actually ENFORCED the trademark yet, making it all null and void, such as here and here.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/01/10/ilawsuit/

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It's alright. Cingular is one of the best carriers I've ever seen. Apple knew what they were doing when they released this without consent/ full rights from Cisco. Cisco's stock went up and Apple's went down. That hurts them even more since they spent so much money developing and keeping this project hidden for so long. I would laugh if Cisco copied that idea for the next generation Iphones and made it cheap, and unlocked for any company. :;)

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Maybe it was a post here...but quite possibly Slashdot...but there was a link showing that the lawyer who represents Cisco (as well as the law firm) for Trademark cases ALSO represents Apple in Trademark cases. Which I find quite interesting...

Re: iPhone
 

Hold your horses guys. Although apple announched the iPhone, it may not be called that for too long.

They are being sued for trademark infringment by Cisco because they have a product they called the iPhone for the VoIP services or something. Read more in this article, its pretty interesting.

http://www.computerworld.com/action/...9&pageNumber=1

Pavan.

Re: iPhone
 

Non replaceable battery.

No high speed wireless data.

No third party development.

Seems like apple is up to it's old habits of not playing nice with others, locking you into their products and having to upgrade frequently.
Battery is toast? Upgrade.
Want to surf the web quickly? Wait a while and you'll be able to upgrade to a 3G version.
Want Outlook on your phone? To bad, it's an Apple. Go play with a widget and find out the what the weather is going to be like.

The only thing the Iphone does well is serve as a status symbol, till everyone else has one. Then it becomes an expensive cellphone with terrible battery life.

-Andy A.

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I wasn't expecting this one bit... :rolleyes:

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Do you actually read anything I post or talk to you in AIM about Adam? :P

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=236

Actually, does ANYONE read them?

*edit*

I want to add that I've heard that the Cingular contract is 2 years and covers any future iPhone models....

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Apple is finally gonna start selling these iPhones! June 29th, who is gonna get one?

Here is a Yahoo story about it, http://www.yahoo.com/s/596572
AT&T/Cingular info on it, URL too long to post. Here it is
Apple.com ads on it, http://www.apple.com/iphone/ads/

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Uhhhhhhhh............... I think you mean June 29th, right?:confused:

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yeah i did...

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I might. My 4 year old ipod was stolen not too long ago and I'm not very fond of my razer phone that I have. I will however be waiting for some reviews to come out to see if it is really as good as apple makes it out to be.
And man that thing's expensive.. Anyone know of any insurance policies for phones that covers theft, destruction, etc.?

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I've heard no insurance from AT&T's provider, but have also heard rumors of AppleCare plans for it... I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

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At&t plans are really expensive compared to Sprint and Verizon.

Re: iPhone
 

This post is from an iPhone rothith is with me. Can I have one dad?

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whom iPhone! I really want one now! This post is also from an iPhone.

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Depends on the plan. If you look at wired or engadget they have all of the math for ya. Its actually cheaper in some cases (plans excluding phone prices).

I saw a bunch of people outside Cingular on my way home from work today [at 6:04] and I laughed because they are part of some pathetic hype bigger than the Ford Mustang according to one of the sites mentioned above.

I don't understand everybody's fascination with with the iPhone? Its iRritating especially since every tech blog on the web has iPhone for 50% of their feeds and no new news is circulating.

Has anyone heard of the new BlackBerry?

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iPhone = magnifies your voice, either that or you were yelling at me!


I have. I tried it when I went phone shopping Monday. I couldn't stand it.


The iPhone...it's...so...pretty. But I don't think I'd ever get one, I use my phone for Calling/Texting/Sometimes pictures. It seems to be missing 1.5 of that (I don't like on screen keyboards).

Re: iPhone
 

I picked one up! A 8GB of course!

The question is do I keep it or sell it?:confused:

I only had to wait an hour and 45 minutes from the time I got in line until I actually had the phone in hand!

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I heard that the Apple store near me got 1500 of each capacity, for 3000 iPhones total. If other stores had those same numbers, I don't think they'll be worth much second hand.

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I really think that the iPhone is very cool, but only 4 or 8 gigs of storage!?!? I don't see why this is so. It amazes me that it is that big, yet they couldn't fit a HD into it. They expect people to fit movies, music, applications, and more into that tiny of a space? Please, someone with an iPhone, let me know how full it is before you put anything on it! It seems like it would be full before it even is used!

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number one, i agree, im not a big fan of the iPhone even though i work for AT&T.

2. YES i've seen the new blackberries, 8330 from Sprint looks really good and the new 8820 for T-Mobile isn't that bad either. i mean you finally get wifi on a RIM device (8820+3.2MP Camera), and on the 8330 , it has a unlocked GSM slot so you can travel to different countries and use it with ease.

now on to the ifraud, iphoney, whatever you call it.

I was working earlier today and i get a e-mail on my 8800 with a picture of people standing outside of a apple store about 15 minutes away, i show it to my coworker, and he says "lets go over there wearing sucker shirts" i couldn't stop laughing.

anyways, i need to test accessories for the device, they didn't bother even giving the 3rd party accessory dealers any hard copies or anything on the iPhone, so everything was done by trial and error. therefore i have to sneak a touch at a iPhone and test some accessories on it.

another thing, your normal 3.5mm headphones, WILL NOT work with the iPhone, you need to buy the adapter for them or buy headphones with a 2.5mm jack.

about the insurance, AT&T WILL NOT provide insurance on the device, im not sure about apple, but im pretty sure that if it is stolen, your screwed.

The phone has no SIM card slot, it uses something else that you can't change, so if you want to change your device, your sort of screwed, you have to go to a AT&T store and pay whatever they charge for a SIM card ($10-$25, depending on dealer)

you need an iTunes account with a valid credit card to activate the phone, if the phone is reported stolen, when you connect your phone to a computer, it will shut off, like everything. using this when you make your purchase at the apple store or a corporate AT&T store (Authorized dealers like wirefly and my company don't get the phone at all, nor does my company plan on selling it anytime in the near future.somewhat boo {no easy commissions} and somewhat yay {if you didn't know before, i don't like the phone} ) , the purchase is registered into the Point of Sale (POS) system that AT&T uses for customer support etc.

ThankYou and GoodNight

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I am typing on one right now and its really easy and epic. I might get one when I get back home.

Everything everyone said about it being hard to type on probably just takes time for some people to get used to.

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Woo posting from An iPhone!

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Me to! Pretty cool device!:D

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Someone brought one into work today and my assistant manager was fascinated by it. I thought it was pretty lame.

Re: iPhone: LAME
 

How do you like that old skool EDGE data there boys?

Wetzel

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The phone itself is very intuitive.

It's great for people with small business who also have to go to work.

I don't have any major complaints with it yet.

The edge network may not be the fastest, but thats what wifi is for!

I'm not sure how well AT&T is going to be, but perhaps that will also change in the future.

BTW this is my first cell phone and my first Apple product.

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QFT

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As a reply to selling it second hand. I would say give it a go. look at this guy

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Apple-...QQcmdZViewItem

and to the SIM card here look at this:

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...bly#more-10341

-John

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Wow. So I guess I'm the only one that had the nightmare on Thursday night where my dad bought a family plan with two iPhones. Yes I said nightmare. I haven't seen one, haven't wanted to touch one, and am just now considering buying an Apple product for the first time (iPod) so I guess it will take a couple of years before I'm jumping up and down waiting for Jobs to come out with the coolest new gadget.

(Btw, I did wake up in a cold sweat after the nightmare, that is how bad I hate this Apple hype.)

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I guess if you need a new iPod Video & Phone then I could see the reason for getting one, but otherwise it's a huge price point that I don't like...

I'm probably not going to buy another Apple product for quite some time now anyway, mainly because I would be on the 5th iPod within two years now, except my AppleCare plan ran out, so now I'm screwed. I'm not even hard on my 4th Gen iPod, I guess listening to it everyday is just too much for it to handle. One day it randomly has an incredibly difficult time reading from the hard drive, and this is about the 3rd time this has happened to me...

:sigh: I'm waiting for the Zune v.2

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Wow. I Have put my ipod nano throught the washing machine, droped it in a pool, thrown it. droped it countless times. And yet it still works!

What is a bigger scam? The iPhone or PS3!?

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I saw this on facebook...

Anyways what Generation of the video iPod is out atm and is it any good?
EDIT: Gen=5.5 (according to wikipedia). Does anyone have a gen5?

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Your question is one they will debate for the ages. They both look waaay overpriced. I don't care how much new technology is incorporated into them, a consumer product like that doesn't need to be priced at $600.

$.02

Re: iPhone
 

EDN Magazine just came out with an article that describes a teardown of the iPhone. This article claims that the price for the content is $265.83. It also describes who supplied certain parts. I'm amazed that this study could be concluded so quickly.

Andy B.

Re: iPhone
 

buying an iPhone...$599
Monthly service charge...$59
going to an apple store just to post on cd... Priceless!:p

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Can't forget R&D costs and software costs though.

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I hear ya! Spoken like a true gearhead!
Just wait till the morons start I-phoning from their cars going down the road!:eek:

My phone rings,and records messages... thats all you really need anyway! :yikes:

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I've kept my mouth shut, I've seen people troll, and say flat out lies. But for the love of god, it's iPhone, not I-phone, IPhone, or any other combination of ways. iPhone. It's not hard.

Re: iPhone
 

Whether you get the Zune or a Video iPod, the problem between the two is the same: hard drives in portable objects. Hard drives by nature are not very fond of shocks, justles, sudden movements, etc., and to use them in a portable music player ensures that the device won't last forever.

(Which was one of the biggest reasons why I originally held off purchasing an iPod until they came out with a decent-sized Flash based one.)

And this is what makes Flash-based media players so much better. Without the moving parts of the mini hard drives in Video iPods or Zunes, they are nearly indestructable. The original iPod Nano survived extreme stunts and still worked. The iPod Shuffle can survive almost anything and still rock on.

This is why I'd consider purchasing an iPhone, but not at least until my current Verizon contract is up in a year and a half. Plus by then, the iPhones will most definitely have more features, more memory storage, hopefully a 3G data connection, and will probably be cheaper. (Anyone remember that the original first-gen iPods were $400 and $500? Now five years later, they're half that price.)

Re: iPhone: LAME
 

It seems to work fine to me!

It seems fast enough for me while using it at work.

I use my wifi connection at home on the iPhone and EDGE seems maybe about half as fast as my DSL wifi.

I do know that the edge connection is much happier and faster when you have full service.:D

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I own one. It is fantastic. Best tech purchase I've ever made.
It seems for the most part, the people posting negatively aren't apple fans or neutral for that matter. This product is great.

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I love it, but I have verizon. Please come out with a verizon friendly Iphone!

Re: iPhone
 

Won't happen. Apple signed a contract and the iPhone is an ATT exclusive. But that doesn't mean anything for the future as the razor was a Cingular exclusive when it first came out, now it is everywhere.

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It's interesting to read how Apple released it so secretively. They refused to say how many they had/will have in stock so everyone lined up and stocked up with many in hopes to sell them thinking there weren't going to be many available to be purchased.

Unfortunately for those who bought more than one to sell on Ebay, there are many to be sold.

Re: iPhone
 

John,

The PS3 is actually cheap compared to some things that it competes again. Try to match thr P3S up to any good Blueray player.

A good BlueRay player alone hovers around the $800 range. A PS3 with an HDMI cable is $700 (with 60GB Harddrive)

The best system before the PS3 is the Xbox 360... ($399... only 20GB harddrive) Then there is the WII, which personally i think is the best because the graphics aren't as huge to me as actual interaction.

but anyways so you are taking the best system before the PS3..

Xbox = $400
PS3 = $700
Blueray = $800

So the PS3 is just as good as any Blueray player... and is better than the Xbox... but yet it is cheaper than the Blueray player alone!!!:ahh: :ahh:

So my answer to that is that the PS3 isn't over priced at all...

Re: iPhone
 

The PS3 is actually quite a deal, considering that it costs over $800 in parts to produce each one, resulting in Sony losing money for every one sold.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/746/746482p1.html

Re: iPhone
 

Art,

To purchase these parts seperately it costs over $800. But Sony makes some of the parts and oursources the rest, but believe me if they were losing money on the PS3 they would not be selling them. The art of business is to make a good profit

Re: iPhone
 

Yes and no. Where Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo makes their money in the console business is licensing fees for games (and, I imagine peripherals too) that run on their systems. I am unaware of Sony ever releasing how much they lose/make on on each PS3 sold, but an IGN article estimated their per unit loss at around $240. How accurate that number is, I don't know, but they certainly aren't making much money on PS3 sales, if any at all.

Re: iPhone
 

That only works IF you want a Blu-Ray player. In my opinion, HD-DVD is going to beat out Blu-Ray in the end, and that's optional with the Xbox360, which I think was the correct way to go there. Not many people even want a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player at the moment, there aren't a lot of movies out yet in those formats (less than 300 movies in both formats).

Halo 3 is coming out here soon and that's going to seal the deal on the PS3 my friends. No one I know owns one, they all either have a Wii or an Xbox360. No one wants to pay 700 dollars for a console.

Re: iPhone
 

Blue-Ray have signed some of the largest film production companies already. (something VHS did when it started to come out).. Believe me when i tell you its only a matter of time before Blue-Ray owns the market, just like VHS at one time owned the market...

And as for the loss that sony has taken, it is $1.88 billion in the last year... However the sales for the PS3 already are higher than the sales for the PS2 at the same time of each of the systems life... and the PS2 made Sony the largest money yet, even after a lose of around $1 billion for start up..

Re: iPhone
 

That was due to low supplies of the system, not lack of consumer interest, as is the case with the PS3. I go to stores and see PS3s in stock, and no Wiis, and a few 360s (depending on when I go and where.) I see games leaving the PS3 and going either multi-platform, or ditching the platform all together. It'll take quite a bit on Sony's part to get back in the race...

Re: iPhone
 

The WII isn't in stock because Nintendo only releases about 100k to the states about every 1 and a half weeks, while the PS3 is constantly kept in stock. When my store goes under 6 we typically get around 8 more in stock within a few days... we sell at least 1 PS3 a day... given the interest is low in the PS3, but the again the game base for it are light as well.. which sony knew when they released it. Give it 6-9 months and there will be a game that propels the PS3 (similiar to what GTA did for the PS2)

Re: iPhone
 

So? What I'm trying to figure out is how 300k of systems is bad while 130k of systems is good? And how the PS3 is just waiting to take off with a lack of any great signature exclusive game? GTA's on the 360, Killzone is only a PR piece to combat Halo, and I see Wii sales in excess of 80k each week in Japan, while the PS3 is selling around 11k each week. Is there a piece here I'm missing that says the PS3 is just "OMFG so going to totally take off!" or what?

Re: iPhone
 

Ok, I have been a little absent on this convo. But Like said previously the PS3 is only a good buy as a Blue ray player if you want a blue ray player. Why would you need a blue ray player unless you have a sick nasty TV first? And a sick nasty sound system, and a sick nasty uber comfortable couch. I am certainly not gonna watch a blueray DVD on a little 23" CRT.

Look at income statistics and see what system is more financially affordable also. 700$ is 3+ car payments for me. That is alot of more. Now Tim I know your a business major and I'm a silly little engineer, so give me your best shot on that one.

Is have a 360 or wii better? if you buy an xbox with the extra 300$ you can go get HDMI cable (Don't Know if they are included), more wiresless controllers, Batteries packs, headfones, and games. Or go get a sick nasty sound system. Mine cost me 280$ and sounds better then anything my friends have.

-John

ps - What is the hookup diff between blue ray and hd-dvd?

Re: iPhone
 

Well this thread was about the iPhone...:ahh:

Re: iPhone
 

It looks like garbage, and technologically speaking, it is garbage. None of this is revolutionary. It's when Apple sticks "i" in front of whatever it is they're making, fanboys fall all over it. I await the day they come out with iJunk.

Re: iPhone
 

I saw the iPhone at work on friday. Its amazing, I'm not going to lie. The only serious problem I have with it is its price. If it were $300-$400, then I would probably have one.. and for every reason other than needing to make phone calls.

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I went phone shopping yesterday, kind of. I was thankful that my family has the Sprint family plan and that I'm not going to be persuaded into buying one of these things. I like my Razr, although a lot of people have problems with them. I'm looking at getting one of those phones that has the MP3 player on one side and the phone on the other side, eventhough I've got an iPod (also looking to upgrade that, too).

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I am not going to lie, the Iphone is pretty sick. But i just don't Think I am going to invest in one. First off to much money, working for the state of Florida doesnt pay to much. Second, I just read an article today (forget were) says that the battery only last 300-400 charges. Since you cant change the battery yourself you have to send it to apple and pay $70 for a new batter plus shipping and handle and be without your phone for at least 3 business days. And finallly third, the state pays for my phone so I dont think think they will dish out the money.

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RedTape on MSNBC. That story is completely wrong in all regards.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

"A properly maintained iPhone battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity after 400 full charge and discharge cycles. You may choose to replace your battery when it no longer holds sufficient charge to meet your needs."

Difference between 80% and 0%.

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On the same topic...

Even though 400 recharges doesn't sound like that much, consider this. With 8 hrs talk time or 6 hrs Internet or 24 hours of audio playback per recharge, using your iPhone for 1-2 hours per day (mixed use) would result in needing to recharge the batteries about twice per week. With 52 weeks per year, that's 104 recharges per year.

Even if your iPhone will still retain 80% of its battery life after 400 recharges, that's almost four years later. ;)

Unless you are a extreme power user who watches a feature-length movie, browses the web for hours, and makes dozens upon dozens of calls every day, your shouldn't have to worry about replacing your iPhone battery anytime soon.

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The funny thing is that I went into an Apple Store thinking that it was going to be this great piece of electronics that I would be near inseparable from, but when I got on it, I wasn't even impressed. I went to the first one that was available and tried to open safari, but it went right back to the home screen. It did this with anything that I tried on it. I asked a mac guy why it was doing this and he said because the applications are crashing. Usually I am a Mac fan boy, but this was just as bad as windows. I was not one bit impressed with the intelligent keyboard either. I "trusted" it when I was typing and almost everything came out wrong. I actually sent an email from one of these recently and had to send a new one because I didn't proofread the first time and sent it, but boy I wish I would have. It was terrible. As far as I am concerned, my cheep $50 cell phone does better than the iPhone. And I have an iPod, so I am set.

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^^^ Simply amazing... GO WATCH!

It took quite a beating.