Originally Posted by iCurtis (Post 554678)

How 'bout defining AM two speeds as COTS mechanisms, which means they must be purchased after kickoff . Those AM people will be making lots of money.

As an aside to AM employees: Interested in selling some stock? :rolleyes:

http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=1100

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 554668)

Legs may only be pushed in order to control them

Originally Posted by fsayre (Post 554774)

This is not the link you were talking about? It is a link to a question about herding tubes.

I was curious what ruling you were referring to.

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 554775)

Sorry. I was referring to the thread found here: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=1098

-Guy

Originally Posted by boiler (Post 554821)

I assume this means that a team cannot intentionally sway the spiders to keep an opponent from scoring? I was looking forward to that type of defense, and teams overcoming that.

Originally Posted by GaryV1188 (Post 554826)

Did you read the answer here? http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=1098 It says the legs "may be pushed".

Originally Posted by BrianR (Post 554840)

If you read on though...

Re: Spider attachment clarification

The Spider Legs are considered part of the field structure, and are covered under Rule <G33>. The Spider Legs may be pushed to one side, from the front, or from the bottom, to stabilize them during the process of hanging a game piece. However, they may not be grasped, held, or severely restrained without violating this rule.

I believe they will not allow you to just go forwards and backwards into the rack for the duration of the match, but this would be a useful question to submit.

Originally Posted by <G33>

<G33> Field interaction - ROBOTS may push or react against any elements of the field, provided there is no damage or disruption of the field elements. ROBOTS may not grab, grasp, grapple, or attach to any field structure. Robot may not HANG GAME PIECES on the Vision System Targets , or otherwise block visual access to the Vision System Targets. If a ROBOT violates this rule, the head referee will give one warning. If the referee determines that the TEAM is disregarding the warning, their ROBOT will be disabled for the remainder of the match.

Originally Posted by GaryV1188 (Post 554843)

They've already said we can push as long as we don't break. The Q&A was only referring to how much constraint could be put on the spider to be considered grasping. And I can hardly believe that "disruption" would mean putting the spider into motion, else no one would ever be able to nudge it, even accidentally.

Originally Posted by Andy Baker (Post 554765)

We are not happy about this ruling. That is an understatement. I don't forsee anyone winning or "making lots of money" in this situation. I see alot of needless paperwork and shipping for teams to become legal.

I still want to see an official FIRST update on this.

Andy B.

Originally Posted by Cody Carey (Post 554916)

While this will not effect our team personally, I can definately see that extra money will need to be spent on everyone's account, and excess paperwork will need to be done. It reminds me of our team having to disassemble the spare KOP gearbox at the door of the Pitt regional in order to get in, only to re-assemble it on the other side. We didn't use it on the robot.