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Pavan Dave 11-01-2007 19:26

Question:Power Distribution Block.
 
Can somebody explain the Power Distribution block that we have to use on the robot this year. I do not fully comprehend its purpose or its functions. If someone could help I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Pavan.

AdamHeard 11-01-2007 19:30

Re: Question:Power Distribution Block.
 
This diagram provides some incite.

Al Skierkiewicz 12-01-2007 12:11

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Please download the Tips and Guidlines document for a better explanation of the this required part.

udzap 24-01-2007 17:33

Re: Question:Power Distribution Block.
 
Thats easy the Power Distribution Block (PDB) can give 4 things power with only 1 wire coming from the battery. Same with "-" side. The PDB is very useful for getting power to multiple objects but they only give one so use it wisely. I hope this helps.

Al Skierkiewicz 25-01-2007 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by udzap (Post 564368)
Thats easy the Power Distribution Block (PDB) can give 4 things power with only 1 wire coming from the battery. Same with "-" side. The PDB is very useful for getting power to multiple objects but they only give one so use it wisely. I hope this helps.

Don't forget you can use both sides of the block.

flearocksmybass 25-01-2007 10:34

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do we really have to use that gigantic hunk of wasted space?

Alan Anderson 25-01-2007 11:37

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Originally Posted by flearocksmybass (Post 564872)
do we really have to use that gigantic hunk of wasted space?

You have to use it, but it doesn't have to be either gigantic or wasted. It's modular. If you don't need all the connections, don't install all the sections.

MercBenzAMG 26-01-2007 07:09

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so, i can cut down to one red, and one black section? why not just let me not use it, so i dont have extra space and ugliness on my god plate!!

Al Skierkiewicz 26-01-2007 09:01

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Originally Posted by MercBenzAMG (Post 565585)
so, i can cut down to one red, and one black section? why not just let me not use it, so i dont have extra space and ugliness on my god plate!!

I wouldn't do that. The distro blocks are useful for returning all the high current motors to the negative lead of the battery. You need at least 2 of the red blocks to distribute positive to the Maxi block and smaller fuse panel. Remember, only one #6 wire per terminal. One in and two outs requires two blocks and the jumper plug.

eugenebrooks 26-01-2007 14:08

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The power distribution block is required according to the rules, and you need to pay careful attention to the details when you assemble it, both to satisfy inspection requirements and to minimze voltage drop on the jumper that might also be aptly described as the "fuse." This is a heavy item, so it pays to leave off sections you don't need, but be careful to follow all of the wiring rules and guidelines.

Route your 6 gauge power line (from the breaker) into the block and your 6 gauge power line to the 40 amp maxi fuse block in the same section of the block (opposite sides) so that this high current connection does not go through the jumper. Pay close attention to assembly instructions, and allowed wire counts for the connections, found in the "Battery Power Terminal Strip" document found at http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...nt.aspx?id=452. I am willing to bet that many teams will guess at this and run into trouble during their technical inspections.

The most critical current handling is for your drive motors, especially if you are using four CIMs on the drive. Your #10 ground lines coming back from your drive motors can be attached in pairs to the ground terminal block, and if you use four motors for your drive you should use two adjacent block sections, feeding the 6 gauge ground line to the other side of one of them.

If I had a spare jumper, aka the "fuse," I would hook it up to TIG welder set for 120 amps or so and see if I could blow it, or at least melt the plastic cover off of it...


Eugene

D.Stephenson 29-01-2007 16:17

Re: Question:Power Distribution Block
 
quick question about the block, the yellow center part, can we cut that down to fit because we are not using the full red and black parts we are only using about 1 section of each

Thanks

Al Skierkiewicz 30-01-2007 07:40

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Originally Posted by D.Stephenson (Post 567605)
quick question about the block, the yellow center part, can we cut that down to fit because we are not using the full red and black parts we are only using about 1 section of each

Thanks

Denise,
Again you need to use the distro block for the high current (40 amp) returns for your four position Maxi block and all feeds to the smaller fuse panels. As to cutting the jumper, there is currently no rule for this part. I suggest you ask the Q&A. Ideally, you should be able to cut this to fit you design, but it would need to be insulated in some fashion as the cut would expose metal that is connected to the battery.

Alan Anderson 30-01-2007 08:57

Re: Question:Power Distribution Block
 
If you're only using one section of the distribution block, the yellow jumper piece serves no purpose. It is intended to connect adjacent sections.

roboticsguy1988 30-01-2007 10:01

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I would agree that there could be better methods of wiring this. However rules are rules and you can still make a great looking electrical board which doesn't weigh much. We calculated ours to weigh about 11.187 pounds.

My thought on the power distribution block was along the lines of you can do the same thing with the maxi breaker block. Notice it has 3 holes on the incoming. Use one for the main read wire coming from the 120A main breaker. then use the other 2 to go to the smaller panels for the 20A and 30A breakers. However this is NOT legal according to this years rules.

I still say the IFI breaker panel was the best way to go, I am really curious as to why FIRST doesn't approve of it.

D.Stephenson 30-01-2007 22:15

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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 568026)
Denise,
Again you need to use the distro block for the high current (40 amp) returns for your four position Maxi block and all feeds to the smaller fuse panels. As to cutting the jumper, there is currently no rule for this part. I suggest you ask the Q&A. Ideally, you should be able to cut this to fit you design, but it would need to be insulated in some fashion as the cut would expose metal that is connected to the battery.

Thanks!!!


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