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falconmaster 12-01-2007 17:03

pic: Basic chassis done
 

AdamHeard 12-01-2007 17:04

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I'm just curious as to why you are running dual wheels in the back.

There is no additional traction gained, the load is more spread out but a single wheel is plenty strong.

Pavan Dave 12-01-2007 17:04

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I like the smooth look. What are you going to cover your wheels with?

Pavan.

ChuckDickerson 12-01-2007 17:07

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It really looks nice as usual guys! It looks like it has a pretty low ground clearance. With all the talk of ramps on robots this year do you have a plan to clear any ramp peaks so that you don't "high center"?

NoSkaOnTheRadio 12-01-2007 17:44

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i like that a lot. 4 back wheels is an interesting choice, but i'll defer to the designers on this one as to how useful they'll be.

Bill_Hancoc 12-01-2007 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 555204)
I'm just curious as to why you are running dual wheels in the back.

There is no additional traction gained, the load is more spread out but a single wheel is plenty strong.

Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.
Looks nice and clean
How much does it weigh..it looks heavy

cinderblock 12-01-2007 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_Hancoc (Post 555270)
Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.

Less pressure over a greater area. Friction force calculations go as the normal force times the coefficient of friction. Area is not used in the calculation of friction.

So why extra wide wheels in the back?

RogerR 12-01-2007 19:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cinderblock (Post 555299)
...So why extra wide wheels in the back?

one upside of having a large surface area is that the traction material will wear more slowly than a narrower wheel; more surface area means the forces are more widely distributed.

Also, while friction is not dependant on surface area, traction can be, under the right circumstances. for example, back in 2002 when you where allowed to lift 180# goals, teams would often tear up carpet fibers; the teams with narrow, high traction tires more than those with larger surface areas. by increasing the contact area, you spread the force around, so an individual carpet fiber is less likely to fail. more surface area, more carpet fibers sharing a given load.

falconmaster 12-01-2007 22:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_Hancoc (Post 555270)
Actually you have less traction because there is less ground pressure.
Looks nice and clean
How much does it weigh..it looks heavy

Right now it weighs 45lbs but have yet to "cheese" it

falconmaster 12-01-2007 23:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerR (Post 555303)
one upside of having a large surface area is that the traction material will wear more slowly than a narrower wheel; more surface area means the forces are more widely distributed.

Also, while friction is not dependant on surface area, traction can be, under the right circumstances. for example, back in 2002 when you where allowed to lift 180# goals, teams would often tear up carpet fibers; the teams with narrow, high traction tires more than those with larger surface areas. by increasing the contact area, you spread the force around, so an individual carpet fiber is less likely to fail. more surface area, more carpet fibers sharing a given load.

You guessed it! It keeps us from having to repair the treads on the IFI wheels, we saw teams having to fix them frequently, last year we used this setup and never repaired one! Even though calculations show we loose some traction, we have not had a problem pushing everybody around. Plus it just plain looks cool!

falconmaster 12-01-2007 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavan (Post 555205)
I like the smooth look. What are you going to cover your wheels with?

Pavan.

IFI roughtop tread


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