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Andy B 14-01-2007 00:18

Motorized Carts
 
We built a motorized car last year, but several times the battery died at competitions so we had to push the cart so we had to pust abainst teh motors. Has anyone out there built a motorized cart that they can disengage the drive motors so if the battery dies, you don't have to push against the motors?

If so, how did u do it, and if u have any pics, that would be cool too!

Thanks

Justin M. 14-01-2007 01:19

Re: Motorized Carts
 
Make some type of quick release so the wheels can spin...or you could just get a human powered cart and not worry about any battery dying ;)

Nate Laverdure 14-01-2007 13:18

Re: Motorized Carts
 
Power wheelchairs have an interesting mechanism for disengaging the drive system.

DCA Fan 14-01-2007 13:29

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A basic system I've used in the past has a base frame with the wheels attached to it, and a second, sliding frame on top of that which the motors are mounted to. When using the motors, the second frame is slid and locked into place, the motors run directly on the tires (we put serrated shafts on them), and when we didn't need the motors, we slid them out of place and locked them into that position.

Jason W 15-01-2007 00:59

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Well if you have any old say two stage gear boxes around use those, they work by shoveing a piece into one of two gears, but if you hold it in between the two you have a neutral that does not engage the drive motors. Look up how a shifting gear boxs works, and use that so you can shift into a gear or into no gear..... or just keep tabs on your battery life, and plug your cart in when its idle : P

Cody Carey 15-01-2007 01:14

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A simple answer is to use bicycle sprockets and/or wheels. Figure out a way to attach the sprocket assembly from the back wheel of almost any bike to the live axle which is driving your wheels, and you won't have to push against motors. Or just make your cart a tricycle with one powered wheel in the back and use the entire wheel.

technoL 15-01-2007 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody Carey (Post 557063)
A simple answer is to use bicycle sprockets and/or wheels. Figure out a way to attach the sprocket assembly from the back wheel of almost any bike to the live axle which is driving your wheels, and you won't have to push against motors. Or just make your cart a tricycle with one powered wheel in the back and use the entire wheel.

Speaking of bicycles, how cool would it be to have a bicycle-driven cart, like with a bike actually towing the cart. I'm not sure if that's even allowed?!

FourPenguins 15-01-2007 19:24

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spring-type cotter pins on the wheels? (I have a roto-tiller with this design)

Conor Ryan 15-01-2007 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by technoL (Post 557552)
Speaking of bicycles, how cool would it be to have a bicycle-driven cart, like with a bike actually towing the cart. I'm not sure if that's even allowed?!

Think a bicycle driven cart is cool? Way back in the day (3 years) I remember 1089 having a Moped Driven Robot Cart, that was about as cool as it gets.

What if you modified your original cart design to haul 2 or 3 batteries instead of just one? It's more weight, but hopefully a lot more range.

Jon Jack 15-01-2007 22:55

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Or you could use some of your pre-2007 batteries.

We had a motorized cart last year, but we weren't using the motors to drive the cart. We used a scissor lift to lift our robot into a working position (the top of the cart was roughly waist level) when it was in the pits and then we'd lower it to a moving position (the top of the cart was roughly shin level) to move our robot to and from the field.

We also had a little area on the undercarriage we could use to charge our pneumatics before matches and keep our tools for any on field repairs we might have needed.

DavidGitz 16-01-2007 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjack (Post 557847)
Or you could use some of your pre-2007 batteries.

We had a motorized cart last year, but we weren't using the motors to drive the cart. We used a scissor lift to lift our robot into a working position (the top of the cart was roughly waist level) when it was in the pits and then we'd lower it to a moving position (the top of the cart was roughly shin level) to move our robot to and from the field.

We also had a little area on the undercarriage we could use to charge our pneumatics before matches and keep our tools for any on field repairs we might have needed.

That sounds pretty neat, could you post a pic or something?

Graham Donaldson 16-01-2007 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Conor Ryan (Post 557645)
Think a bicycle driven cart is cool? Way back in the day (3 years) I remember 1089 having a Moped Driven Robot Cart, that was about as cool as it gets.

What if you modified your original cart design to haul 2 or 3 batteries instead of just one? It's more weight, but hopefully a lot more range.

I've got 2 1-ups.

1. A quad/golf cart pulling a trailer cart

2. A Segway pulling a cart.

We built a pull cart with some armor we had to take off rookie year to make weight. We stuck a battery inside with a switch to turn on neons colored to whatever alliance we were on.

We also (one day) decided to screw a 2x4 to our rookie 'bot and then one of our seinors rode/drove it around school. Suffice to say we got some odd looks from the teachers that were there that day...

ewankoff 16-01-2007 11:00

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their cold cathodes grahm but what ever.

One thing i would want to do after ship date is motorize our cart somehow. any suggestions?

fimmel 16-01-2007 13:48

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im hoping to help make a new cart this year. im going to try and use an old set of the kit trannies from last year. and gear it really low and do a "power assist" think w/ some programming



but of course the robot has to get finished first.......lol

/forest

Otaku 16-01-2007 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ewankoff (Post 558078)
their cold cathodes grahm but what ever.

Actually, Cold Cathode Flourescent Lights and Neons are different. For all you know, they could have actually used Neon lights (such as Streetglow's with a 12v adapter), but those would be more expensive.


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