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TJ4nier 15-01-2007 23:13

Servo Strength
 
How much weight could one of the servos from this years kit hold? The part of our robot that I'm assigned to requires a servo to hold it still until told otherwise, but I'm not sure if that will work considering the size of the part compared to the servo.

But, hey, maybe it has some hidden strength deep within that teeny little black box?

bear24rw 15-01-2007 23:37

Re: Servo Strength
 
http://www.servocity.com/html/hs-322...rd_deluxe.html

Says its got 51 oz/in of torque

Richard McClellan 15-01-2007 23:37

Re: Servo Strength
 
The servos provide 42 oz-in of torque, which is relatively low compared to a high torque servo, but it still may be adequate, just depends on how much you gear it down

sanddrag 15-01-2007 23:40

Re: Servo Strength
 
The servos are rated at about 40 oz-in holding torque. Not a heck of a lot. Their typical application is moving RC airplane control surfaces or steering RC car wheels.

AdamHeard 15-01-2007 23:41

Re: Servo Strength
 
You could have the servo hold a pin that holds the load.

We used a servo in 2004 to hold back the force or two arms on surgical tubing pivots to hang. It was difficult to pull by hand and the servo had no problem holding the pin that let them go.

amos229 16-01-2007 00:23

Re: Servo Strength
 
Dont forget that while yes the servo may have 42 oz/in of torque, if it the piece its supporting gets jarred or knocked you will strip it out easily. I dont know if they are allowed but you can buy beefier servos with brass gears in them. Hope this helps.

EricH 16-01-2007 00:31

Re: Servo Strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amos229 (Post 557914)
Dont forget that while yes the servo may have 42 oz/in of torque, if it the piece its supporting gets jarred or knocked you will strip it out easily. I dont know if they are allowed but you can buy beefier servos with brass gears in them. Hope this helps.

Not allowed to use other servos, as far as I know.

amos229 16-01-2007 00:37

Re: Servo Strength
 
[quote=EricH;557922]Not allowed to use other servos, as far as I know.

I was not sure, dial up is to slow to download manual:mad:

Binome 16-01-2007 00:38

Re: Servo Strength
 
from a previous robot, don't allow servos on surfaces that can be moved by grav ity/bad humans/etc, as they WILL strip out quickly.

Mike Betts 16-01-2007 11:02

Re: Servo Strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amos229 (Post 557925)
I was not sure, dial up is to slow to download manual:mad:

This has got to be one of the weakest excuses I have ever heard for not reading the manual.

I have dial up... Always have...

As of 2006, 44% of internet access is dial up (J.D. Power and Associates 2006 Internet Service Provider Residential Customer Satisfaction Study).

If 44% of teams did not read the manual because "all they have is dial up", FIRST would fail miserably.

JMHO.

Mike

ewankoff 16-01-2007 11:16

Re: Servo Strength
 
You limited to 2 servos for the entire robot so using a servo in another postition will leave you without the pan and tilt mechanism provided in the kit. This may or maynot be acceptable for your team.

Qbranch 16-01-2007 11:19

Re: Servo Strength
 
PID and encoders/pots anyone? :D

Can give you some help to get started if you need any... just gimme a pm/email/post.

-Q

Joe Ross 16-01-2007 11:27

Re: Servo Strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewankoff (Post 558086)
You limited to 2 servos for the entire robot so using a servo in another postition will leave you without the pan and tilt mechanism provided in the kit. This may or maynot be acceptable for your team.

That may have been true several years ago, but this year <R45> specifically allows additional HITEC HS-322HD Servos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardmcc2 (Post 557884)
The servos provide 42 oz-in of torque, which is relatively low compared to a high torque servo, but it still may be adequate, just depends on how much you gear it down

The FIRST manual used to specify that servo manufacturers typically inflate torque rating to double the actual value. So, take the 42 oz-in with a grain of salt.

dlavery 16-01-2007 11:56

Re: Servo Strength
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewankoff (Post 558086)
You limited to 2 servos for the entire robot so using a servo in another postition will leave you without the pan and tilt mechanism provided in the kit. This may or maynot be acceptable for your team.

Oh, really? Can you cite the specific rule that limits you to two servos? ;)

-dave

p.s. then read <R45>.

ewankoff 16-01-2007 14:22

Re: Servo Strength
 
Im sorry i was under the impression that this rule had not changed. I guess skimming some of these rules is not a good idea. Ill go back to read every single rule word for word.


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