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kramarczyk 29-01-2007 08:00

Paperless Process
 
We took our first crack at a paperless process, (CAD to Mill without drawings), and I was wondering how many other teams do this regularly?

vid of process... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrkeA6DFAK0

For those that do, what are you using to create the tool paths?

We've been using Inventor for the CAD and then translating to stp so that tool paths can be created in Key Creator (school's CAD), but the loss in associativity in the transfer creates a pinch point in the work flow waiting for tool paths. Anybody got alternatives out there that work with Inventor?

Joe Ross 29-01-2007 14:02

Re: Paperless Process
 
Several members of our team (and a few other local teams) took a machine shop class at the local community college (El Camino College). Now that we've passed the class, we have full access to the school's machine shop.

They use Mastercam, which imports directly from Inventor. We also tried Inventor to STP to Mastercam, which was a mess.

So far, we've made 2 parts paperless, and redrew a third.

Madison 29-01-2007 15:21

Re: Paperless Process
 
With the exception of parts made on our lathe and drilling simple holes with a drill press, all of our processes are completely paperless. Parts made on the lathe are not paperless only because its CNC capabilities leave a lot to be desired -- though the potential to use it as such is there.

Nearly all parts are designed in Solidworks, though sometimes we'll use Microsoft Visio for simple, two-dimensional parts.

For parts made on the mill, I use MasterCAM V.9 to create all of the toolpaths. We have a license of MasterCAM X as well, but I prefer V.9. The mill has onboard software to execute the code.

For our plasma cutter, we use SheetCAM to automatically generate toolpaths. It's a very fast process, as SheetCAM is very good at determining kerf compensation on its own and generates the toolpaths in less than a second. The plasma cutter is driven by software called Mach3. It's pretty easy to use, though the interface is a bit cludgy.

Finally, our laser cutter behaves as a printer, so we can print parts to it directly from within Microsoft Visio.

We're able to make parts reasonably quickly and they're accurate. It's enormously helpful and we've been able to eliminate a lot of work remaking parts that aren't up to snuff because of human error. I don't know if I could go back to doing all of this any other way.

sanddrag 29-01-2007 16:01

Re: Paperless Process
 
You can use Ace DXF converter for 2D machining to make G code from a DXF file. It is free. I like SheetCAM too. It is like $150 or something like that.

Cody Carey 29-01-2007 19:05

Re: Paperless Process
 
The newest Key Creator can import directly from Inventor, but a nice alternative is Surfcam...

AdamHeard 29-01-2007 19:38

Re: Paperless Process
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 567529)
Several members of our team (and a few other local teams) took a machine shop class at the local community college (El Camino College). Now that we've passed the class, we have full access to the school's machine shop.

They use Mastercam, which imports directly from Inventor. We also tried Inventor to STP to Mastercam, which was a mess.

So far, we've made 2 parts paperless, and redrew a third.

My team is in the same class..

Just to make it easier on the machinest that go there, I give them inventor files, step files and a paper drawing so there is no confusion. They say they have had the most success with inventor files though.

Daniel_H 30-01-2007 10:07

Re: Paperless Process
 
unfortunately our machine shop is very limited, so we make tons of .idw files

Cory 30-01-2007 11:44

Re: Paperless Process
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cody Carey (Post 567713)
The newest Key Creator can import directly from Inventor, but a nice alternative is Surfcam...

Yeah, only problem is it's like $15,000 :p

I like GibbsCAM, but probably because it's the only thing I've used.

Rafi Ahmed 30-01-2007 13:34

Re: Paperless Process
 
Our team mostly has drawing in Inventor and CAD so we can just use the CAD files and use GibbsCAM to machine them. We used inventor to gibbs one time to machine our frame but most of our CAMing is done from CAD files.

kramarczyk 01-02-2007 18:41

Re: Paperless Process
 
I've since discovered that the school is a couple revs behind in Key Creator and plans to update this summer which wil help for next season. Thanks to everybody for thier feedback. MasterCAM looks like the ultimate solution though... anybody tried for a donation from them before?

sanddrag 01-02-2007 19:15

Re: Paperless Process
 
FlashCut seems decent too for 2D stuff.

tdlrali 01-02-2007 22:56

Re: Paperless Process
 
We're still using paper for everything :D
I wish we had a CNC mill (anyone got an extra?)

MitchellDonovan 04-02-2007 19:49

Re: Paperless Process
 
Nope, our printer runs all the time.

GMAdan 04-02-2007 20:24

Re: Paperless Process
 
At our school we use edge cam its like master cam.


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