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65_Xero_Huskie 09-02-2007 08:24

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Dislike the rules? FIRST has never made a rule that was pointless or that was crazy....Except maybe shipping the control board on ship date.

Jack Jones 09-02-2007 09:16

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
If I had to select a least favorite rule it would be the Fixit Window. There was talk last year about a rage against dogmatic rules, but nothing came of that. So, I’m trying hard to become comfortably numb and let others ponder the absurdity of rules.

Albert Camus (1913-1960) French writer

"Integrity has no need of rules."

Winston Churchill (1874-1965) English politician

"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law."

Sessue Hayakawa (1889-1973) Japanese actor

"Do not speak to me of rules. This is war! This is not a game of cricket!"

Katharine Hepburn (1907-2003) U.S. actress

"If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun."

Tyler Durden (1963-) Fictional character

"The first rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club."

Arnold J. Toynbee (1889-1975) English historian

"Civilizations in decline are consistently characterized by a tendency towards standardization and uniformity."

Oscar Wilde (1854-1900), (Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde) Irish author and playwright

"One should always play fairly when one has the winning cards."

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"Remember to phrase your answer in the form of a question."

Rick 09-02-2007 12:59

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
<G35>

Haha, just kidding everyone. And if you dont get the joke you havent been in FIRST long enough.

Jetgrindradio00 09-02-2007 14:02

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I think the Height/weight rule is my least favorite this rule, but hey....it makes things more interesting:D .

Doug G 09-02-2007 15:29

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Jan - Mar is my least favorite time of year to do robotics. Weather is usually rainy (I know I can't complain too much being here in NorCal) and my ability to commit time is limited. Oh, summer time......

I guess time of year is not really a rule, so I'll choose the flag holder rule. I liked the big dome lights from '03 and earlier.

Ian Curtis 09-02-2007 15:37

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricksta121 (Post 574966)
<G35>

Haha, just kidding everyone. And if you dont get the joke you havent been in FIRST long enough.

I don't have the rulebook with me, but I'm going to assume that's the one against tipping. And we're all very glad this was instituted.:p

(10 years ago, the Islanders (who are now the Rhodewarriors) built a robot that tipped everyone else, then went and scored mucho points without opposition) And yes. It was legal.

K.Porter 09-02-2007 17:20

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I have no real qualms with the game play rules (FIRST obviously has justification behind all of those rules to put a little more challenge in the game, and make things fair for everyone.)

There are two things that I wouldn't mind doing without though;
First, the DIN rail power distribution block. I admit, I've learned to like the DIN system, but when the power block is the only component that fits the rail and it's taking up a lot more space than needed, well, it's just a little annoying.

Second, the status light seems quite bulky compared to previous years. The light itself is fine, but the solid state relay takes up a ton of space.

GMAdan 09-02-2007 21:27

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I think the rules i mostly dislike is the breakr panel rule and that you have to ship your controls with the robot.

LightWaves1636 09-02-2007 21:50

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I don't like the battery rule and our team defiantly didn't like Team Update #2 with the restriction on the use of the 2006 transmissions. The LED thing, I'm okay with but I wish it wasn't so bulky(or the radios).

Andrew Blair 09-02-2007 21:53

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Ship'n the control board. We always like to put that off until after build- lets us pretty the thing up. It's not really a game deciding factor, so long as it works.

Cody Carey 09-02-2007 22:10

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I'd have to agree about the Operator interface rule... It kind of seems pointless.

Richard Wallace 09-02-2007 22:33

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Norris (Post 570652)
By far the 'wedge' rule. Now this is what I call a wedge :p

Jonathan, that thing isn't a mere wedge. It's a cow-catcher. Did you leave a trail of opponents with their wheels spinning in the air that year?:eek:

meatmanek 04-03-2007 12:37

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I would have to agree that I'm disappointed that we have to ship our OI. We didn't get a chance to paint our OI, so it's nowhere close to being as pretty as it could have been. Even a solid coat of blue would have been nice. We would do it at our next regional, but we've got some issues: I've already epoxied in the LEDs, so we can't paint from the inside, and paint on the outside often gets scratched off.

It might have been a good idea just to ship the OI board itself, keep our custom box, and paint that before our first regional.

Chevymann89 14-03-2007 00:23

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
I would say any part of the lifting or lifted robot being support by a tube, even if taking it out doesn’t change the 12" off the ground, Eliminates the bonus points for that match. I strongly disagree and dislike that rule. This rule was called A LOT at GLR.:mad:

David Brinza 14-03-2007 00:53

Re: Least favorite rules?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie (Post 574851)
Dislike the rules? FIRST has never made a rule that was pointless or that was crazy....Except maybe shipping the control board on ship date.

How about the flag holder?


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