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jagman2882 11-02-2007 14:28

pic: 1126 4-Speed Transmissions '07 edition
 

Alex Cormier 11-02-2007 14:29

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looks good cory!

i wonder how many teams would purchase a trans if possible.

Starke 11-02-2007 14:31

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Looks good SparX! I can not wait to see you guys in action! :yikes:

Arkorobotics 11-02-2007 15:24

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4 speed transmission!? Can it go 88mph and with 1.21jiggawatts, possibly go back in time!? Man, you should have a steering wheel, pedals, and a shift stick. :D

Bill_Hancoc 11-02-2007 15:39

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That is crazy. I like it. I wish we had a mentor with trans design experience so i could learn it. O well

Kirk 11-02-2007 19:17

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Looks good. What are the envelope dimensions and weight with motors and pistons?

Alex Minot 11-02-2007 20:01

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what is the real necessity for 4 speed trannys? i feel like the regular kitbot transmissions work fine for power and speed.

Alex Cormier 11-02-2007 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Minot (Post 576201)
what is the real necessity for 4 speed trannys? i feel like the regular kitbot transmissions work fine for power and speed.

:yikes: i highly reccomend anyone who has a chance to talk to a team that had made one of these do it!

it gives you extreme low gearing for pushing, somewhat low gearing for pulling something, then somewhat speed to go from one side to another of the field then high to go to home as fast as possible. it is extremely useful.

MishraArtificer 11-02-2007 20:35

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What is this supposed to be, an Audi TT? I spy double clutches, pneumatic shifters, and itty-bitty drive motors. Why no CIMs?

Lil' Lavery 11-02-2007 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Minot (Post 576201)
what is the real necessity for 4 speed trannys? i feel like the regular kitbot transmissions work fine for power and speed.

I don't think it is, but 1126 may be able to prove us wrong (and 33 used one to tremendous success in 2004). That being said, who knows if they could have done as well with a 2, or 3 speed.
A single speed can provide adequate power and speed, but typically not both. It could be geared to try and hang with the high speed bots, but it wouldn't have much power. It could be geared to push, but then it could be easily outrun.
A 2-speed can provide a high-power pushing gear, and a quicker speed gear.
A 3-speed can provide that really low power pushing gear, a decent average speed driving gear, and a higher speed "sprinting gear" (that in many situations borders on the edge of control, but is still useful for straight line driving and can be deadly with the right drivers and robot).
The usefullness of the 4th speed is questionable, but 1126 apparently really likes it.
Granted, with a pneumatic mesh shifter (like 33 and 1126 built), it is every bit as easy to build a 4-speed as it is to build a 3-speed. Most 3-speeds in FIRST are the DeWalt transmissions, although we have seen a few 3-speed ball lock transmissions from teams like 222.

bjimster1 11-02-2007 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MishraArtificer (Post 576229)
Why no CIMs?

I'm pretty sure I see at least one. (look on the bottom left)

Jeremytice 11-02-2007 20:50

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These transmissions are nasty Cory... the design is awsome. When you handed them to the electrical team I didnt know what to think. You even put in the fans for us, the electrical team!

jagman2882 12-02-2007 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk (Post 576180)
Looks good. What are the envelope dimensions and weight with motors and pistons?

The Dimensions: 8" long X 6.5" wide X 4.5" tall

The Weight: they weigh aprox. 6 lbs....its just a little under

The Motors: One(1) small CIM and One(1) Fisher Price per trans

Tom Bottiglieri 12-02-2007 16:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 576210)
:yikes: i highly reccomend anyone who has a chance to talk to a team that had made one of these do it!

We made a version of team 33's 4 speed shifter in 2005. It was a total waste of time and weight. The next year we switched to a 2 speed crash shifter, which worked great.

jagman2882 12-02-2007 18:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 576808)
We made a version of team 33's 4 speed shifter in 2005. It was a total waste of time and weight. The next year we switched to a 2 speed crash shifter, which worked great.

well we like the results that we have gotten from them. its not for everyone.


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