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I was able to view the PIT MAP earlier at this address:
http://155.212.10.234/uploadedFiles/.../07Pit_Map.pdf To use it for anything is up to you. I know this was out there today at around 1:00. It could easily be different now that FIRST has a better idea how many pits they will actually need. |
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Hey what's that thing in the middle of the HOF? Is that possibly the Woodie Flowers award winners display(IhopeIhopeIhope)? |
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I'm curious, how many teams have always been on the same field at Champs? I wish they would shift which field is where, or which field they start assigning teams to.
I've always been on Newton. Which means, I've always been on the back of the dome, and always missed the opening ceremonies, and always needed to scramble to find a seat to watch Einstein. I'm sure there's not a ton of teams in this same situation... Just curious how many. |
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as far as I know for my team at nationals (Which is only till the year before I joined...stack attack)
Newton I believe in 03. Galileo was 04 Curie was 05 I'm not sure about previous years, and we didn't attend nationals last year. |
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Wow. Im thinking curie is the division to beat if thats the team list.
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341 has ALWAYS been Galileo for some reason. Not that I'm complaining!
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Yep im definately going for Curie. A lot of good teams and im biased
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I see the good teams divided in the 4 divisions... i really can't say which will be the hardest!!
But it is certain that we will have a lot of fun and a great competition in every division!! see you there!! I'm eager to April 12!! |
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when will we know for sure which division we will be in?
I hope my team can get ready for scouting in time :) |
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Curie looks stacked. Better be fun... look for no domination by a single team. |
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And you are right, Curie does look good... (I also think Archimedes looks pretty good as well). I just hope my team can get everything working the right way and we don't make a fool of ourselves haha. I just cannot wait!!! |
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Curie does look stacked right now but keep in mind there are still very low number teams (like 84 & 181, Philly champs) that are likely to be added. That shifts everything.
[Edit] Also 229 at long Island and 118 LSR[/Edit] |
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Hm... the addition of 84 and 181 would swing things a lot. Meaning that 648 would be in Newton, just one spot away from our good buddies, 107. Here's to hoping that there is another team in between 107 and us that gets in from the wait list.
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ya 181 is offical which is going to make quite a dent on everything...
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321 now.
336 would be the perfect number. It would mean 84 teams per division. And since 84 is divisible by 6, no surrogate matches would be needed. 14 matches would be needed per round. Which means it would take 98 matches to get each of the robots to play in 7 rounds. This spread would also mean that there is no reason any robot should ever have to play in a round with any robot more than once (whether with or against). Raul |
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Well, I couldn't wait.. so I added in the pending teams. A list that includes pending teams that eventually don't sign up is just about as off as a list that excludes teams that will eventually sign up, IMO-- but including the pending teams may pull the list closer to the actual one?
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I didn't get any official list. I assumed the waiting list for non-qualifyers wouldn't get touched, then looked at the FIRST profile of each of week 5's qualifying teams. If I saw them with FIRST Championship listed as an event, then I added them in. I think I got the idea to do this after seeing one of your posts. |
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actually, it looks like the first 2-3 spots on the waiting list will qualify for nats.
including the fact that some of the international teams won't be going... 336 seems passable, but i don't think thats going to happen, i see more along the lines of 340-348 going. |
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HYPER ISN'T GOING TO NATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What is wrong with the world??? |
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The Championships these days may not be as alluring as going to a few more Regionals. Especially with the extended costs associated with it.
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So today was the very last day to pay for Nationals correct?
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mmm that Curie division is starting to really scare me. :yikes:
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Team 1425 will be there. Thank You Xerox.
The FIRST registration should have been completed today, so I expect we show up on the list on Wednesday. |
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Just to make a point of clarification.
Yes the Curie Division looks indeed stacked and everyone is talking about the powerhouse teams, but as I recall Newton was the same way last year...and in the end Archimedes wound up taking home the Gold. Championships aren't brought home from single teams, it's the 3 teams that work the best together that take the Championship. Einstein is going to be crazy either way, and I can't wait until next week. PS: The above post isn't to say I won't be watching Curie...I'll probably be spending most of my time there. |
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If this stands, Curie will make me cry. So many good teams, and so spread out team number wise. We will see some interesting qual matches. I predict 1114 and 1024 to come out on top of quals.
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I'm thinking... a bit biased as usual... that as it stands right now, Archimedes will repeat. Last time 648 was in Atlanta, Archimedes won. I'm entirely hoping that 648 will be on that winning alliance. I'm just pumping myself up for a great weekend of events.
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dont be suprised if 703 903 and 123 get together in galelio and win it all
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Team 1425 was added this morning.
Go Error Code 1425!!! |
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Will FIRST really have the division list by noon?
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But it is 1 week before Atlanta, plans need to be made.
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there are now 325 team registered to go i dont know which teams have been added except for team 1425.
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Hopefully no teams under #111.
I wanna see wildstang againnnnnn |
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If 84 goes. Then id have to say that Curie's squad is going to be in another division. ;) Oh well, hopefully we can see them all on Einstein
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Anyone got a new list?
Someone's gotta write a script to look for changes in the FIRST page and update lists accordingly :p |
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here is a new list i think it is right. teams added are 2083 2166 1694 1425 1065. for a total of 325 teams. someone check it to make sure
CURIE GALEIO NEWTON ARCHIMEDIES 4 16 20 25 27 33 34 39 45 47 48 49 56 58 60 63 65 66 67 68 70 71 74 75 79 85 86 88 93 95 97 100 102 103 107 108 111 116 120 121 122 123 125 126 128 135 138 141 148 151 155 159 168 173 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 190 191 192 195 203 217 223 224 226 229 231 233 234 236 237 238 246 247 250 254 269 271 279 288 291 292 293 294 302 314 316 326 329 330 334 335 337 339 340 341 342 343 348 353 354 357 358 362 364 365 375 379 386 395 399 401 435 456 457 461 462 469 476 488 494 498 501 503 522 527 537 540 545 555 558 573 604 611 612 614 618 619 648 668 670 677 694 696 703 714 716 744 752 768 771 811 816 829 830 835 842 857 862 876 903 904 910 922 932 935 967 987 989 997 1001 1002 1011 1013 1015 1024 1026 1029 1033 1038 1057 1065 1086 1087 1089 1100 1102 1111 1114 1124 1126 1127 1137 1138 1141 1153 1155 1188 1208 1216 1218 1230 1251 1266 1270 1280 1289 1302 1305 1311 1319 1323 1341 1369 1382 1403 1418 1425 1444 1450 1501 1502 1503 1504 1506 1510 1511 1515 1516 1523 1525 1527 1533 1535 1539 1540 1555 1559 1563 1583 1592 1595 1598 1617 1622 1624 1646 1647 1649 1655 1662 1675 1676 1680 1683 1694 1700 1710 1712 1713 1714 1727 1730 1731 1732 1746 1775 1795 1811 1816 1817 1824 1826 1846 1850 1856 1860 1868 1872 1885 1902 1912 1929 1985 1991 1997 2010 2016 2024 2029 2046 2047 2053 2056 2062 2067 2068 2079 2081 2083 2100 2108 2119 2134 2137 2158 2165 2166 2169 2180 2182 2194 2228 2234 2237 2252 2265 2272 2274 2283 |
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That looks about right. Does anyone know when are they officially released by FIRST?
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WOOOOOAH:ahh:
It just jumped to 344 teams, we may be close |
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We haven't been added yet and we are paid... so a little shift at the bottom at least.... add 1983...
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Newton, for the win.
148, 254, 1114,....... 48, 379, 2010 - All Trumbull County Ohio teams together. :) ******This is NOT official, but it has to be getting close. This presumes FIRST uses the same divisional placement method they've used the past few years. Code:
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Qualifying Teams have until Friday, April 6th to get the entry fee into the hands of FIRST. My guess is that the official lists will not be available until after then. I know of one Rookie All Star team that is definitely going that is not on the current list of 325 teams, that tells me that FIRST is only adding teams to the list as they recieve payment. 336 teams would be a round number of teams to work with. 84 teams per division would divide evenly by six and by my estimation would give each team seven qualifying matches. Roughly ten hours of matches with ten matches per hour would give you 100 matches. 84 teams divided by 6 gives you 14 matches to get every team in. 100 divided by 14 equals 7.14 matches or seven matches per team. Please don't crusify me if someone else has different numbers. It would certainly be great if we knew Friday night or early Saturday. It is so much easier to get preliminary scouting informaiton together before you leave home.
EDIT: Whoa! Just saw the post before mine. 344 Teams! So goes my theory. The All Star I was refering to is listed. EDIT: Sorry Raul from 111, I did not see your earlier post, my mistake, at least we agree on the numbers though! |
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You (1983) are therre now, as part of the 344. - 86 teams per division!
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boo they shifted ;/ Can anyone possibly give me an estimate to how many more teams may be added. I know it's not so much of an answerable question to ask, but what's a good range? |
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16 more would be 90 teams per division (360 total), no surrogates. I think we can handle that (376 pit spots ;) ). They certainly have no shortage of waitlist teams (like previous years). However, I think 0 or 4 is more likely. |
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I'll laugh when FIRST decides to change their algorithm for creating the divisions. They did change the scheduling algorithm after all...:yikes:
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If each division has 90 teams that is 30 even in each pool, and 15 match average cycles. Now I am not saying the scheduling algorithm will not schedule 6 surrogates just for the heck of it, but it doesnt have to. |
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I wouldnt be surprised if they changed it up.
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Yea.. here's what they do: break the list into 4 pools of teams. Pool 1 with the 344/4 lowest numbered teams, and pool 4 with the 344/4 highest numbered teams. The first matches this season have been so darn 1337 ub3tr g00d suepr crazzzy that the idea haver for this stupid (but good in theory) pooling systems decides, why the heck not.. one team from the top of each pool gets picked out and put in a division. With every pass a division gets one "super veteran," a "veteran," an "intermediate," and a "rookie."
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Do you guys think that even though teams can register til friday we'll probably have the division (official or not) by the end of the day? I do.
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Hhmmm...thats kind of a coincidence for us if thats the formula they use. Our team has been in Newton for the past four years I think (all the years we've gone to Nationals)
According to that formula though, we would be in Curie now....I like the cool blue of Newton though....... |
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Either way, Welcome to Curie, Joe! Looks like a good one. |
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(get to it through the map, for georgia). |
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I could be making all or most of this up, but I seem to recall that's how it goes. |
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I think that division list is pending. It may not end at a nice 344 (less, because teams don't find the money to pay), but before the end of today!
*fingers crossed* BTW, have you seen the division one the current team list, and last years assignment "algorithm" nets? |
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http://www.thebluealliance.net/cd/divisionparse.php This will dynamically update. Better late than never, I guess.. When divisions are released for good we will create a page with similar functionality. (All teams listed with links to match videos and data...) |
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The Silicon Valley champion alliance of 1280, 1516, 190 are all in Archimedes.
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Divisions look to be posted
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Divisions have been posted!
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....alse&event=CMP EDIT: And they definitely aren't following the usual order. |
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