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kjohnson 07-03-2007 16:08

pic: FRC 2108, 540
 

Dave McLaughlin 07-03-2007 16:08

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Same thing happened alot at PNW regional...

VanMan 07-03-2007 16:24

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Tons and tons of robots have gotten stuck up on the rack. Some have actually tipped over.

kjohnson 07-03-2007 19:02

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The VCU triplets also seemed to get stuck on the rack quite often. The Hokies (401) got stuck also, and were then tipped over by the opposing alliance.

GBIT 07-03-2007 19:08

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has anyone else noticed noticed that we havn't seen much of the dreaded yellow card.
at GSR bots were slaming into each other, but i didn't see the card until the finals. even then it was for bad sportsmanship not robot violence.

antway cool pic hope your bot was ok and that is my observation one of the new game elements.

kjohnson 07-03-2007 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GBIT (Post 592926)
has anyone else noticed noticed that we havn't seen much of the dreaded yellow card.
at GSR bots were slaming into each other, but i didn't see the card until the finals. even then it was for bad sportsmanship not robot violence.

At VCU the Yellow Card was given to team 122 (NASA Knights) for habitually exceeding 72" outside of the home zone. 122 was using their ramp to help them to block the Rack. Team 414 was also given a yellow card, for playing stiff defense.

Michael Corsetto 07-03-2007 19:25

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Yeah, that Rack is actually starting to scare me, its tricky business trying to score without getting caught on the rack, especially while you have defense on your bot. I almost had a heart attack a couple times seeing how close we got to tipping after being hooked on the spider feet, but thankfully we haven't tipped happened yet, even with our 10 foot tower sticking up the entire match. Hooray for low CG's!

Nice move "unsticking" your alliance partner. I always love it when I see robots uprighting other bots, like that time when I believe 25 kept 968 from tipping at the championships last year. That was insane :eek:

BRosser314 07-03-2007 19:28

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Great example of teamwork, Congrats on the win guys

VanMan 07-03-2007 21:32

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Team 843, our Canadian friends, got a yellow flag for going into the other teams player zone. Thats why we were DQed.

wilsonmw04 07-03-2007 21:47

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we were on 414's team when they got that yellow flag. I didn't see anything wrong with what they were doing. It wasn't anything that i didn't see 10 times before that match and 15 times after. I wish someone would define "agressive defense" for me. they weren't tipping or ramming from a large distance.

kjohnson 07-03-2007 21:51

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I guess that Lisa (Head Ref at VCU) just decided that 414 had been too aggressive with their defense throughout their qualification matches. Maybe she just wanted to prevent 414 from getting themselves into the situation of accidentally tipping another bot and being DQed.

September 08-03-2007 00:17

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Is this the part where 540 got stuck on the rack?

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Originally Posted by nukemknight (Post 592921)
The VCU triplets also seemed to get stuck on the rack quite often.

I only recall 540 getting stuck... And I saw most of the matches; it wasn't that often.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukemknight (Post 593045)
I guess that Lisa (Head Ref at VCU) just decided that 414 had been too aggressive with their defense throughout their qualification matches. Maybe she just wanted to prevent 414 from getting themselves into the situation of accidentally tipping another bot and being DQed.

I also recall another team getting DQ'ed for intentially tipping another robot on Friday. However, people claimed that all 66 teams were competing on Saturday. :-\ Can't remember the team though.

kjohnson 08-03-2007 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by September (Post 593141)
Is this the part where 540 got stuck on the rack?

I only recall 540 getting stuck... And I saw most of the matches; it wasn't that often.

I also recall another team getting DQ'ed for intentially tipping another robot on Friday. However, people claimed that all 66 teams were competing on Saturday. :-\ Can't remember the team though.

I was a volunteer and doing field reset and was able to watch many of the matches. I am pretty sure that 384 and 1086 also got stuck, along with 401 and 2108.

The DQ was for the team that tipped 401 after 401 became stuck on the rack. A DQ only lasts one match, the team can come right back and play in their next match. If their alliance wins the match that they were DQed in, the team that was DQed does not get credit for the win.

wilsonmw04 08-03-2007 12:39

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The team that got the DQ was attempting to right 401. they had this wedge shaped front end that just tipped them over.

kjohnson 08-03-2007 15:58

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Originally Posted by wilsonmw04 (Post 593255)
The team that got the DQ was attempting to right 401. they had this wedge shaped front end that just tipped them over.

If I recall correctly, 401 and the other team were on opposite alliances. Even if they were trying to help 401, the refs called it as intentional tipping because they pushed 401 from the front, not from the back.

RKElectricalman 08-03-2007 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nukemknight (Post 593252)
I was a volunteer and doing field reset and was able to watch many of the matches. I am pretty sure that 384 and 1086 also got stuck, along with 401 and 2108.

Correct, 384 was momentarily stuck, and 1086 was stuck enought to actually bend their mechanism as a 45deg angle :eek: But yea, I'm pretty sure we only got stuck once or zero times, because I remember being behind that player station and going "Holy smokes! NO!!!!! Flip down and reverse out!" I'm the human player so either I was day dreaming, or my eyes just zoomed in and saw it happen to 540... I have no clue..:p

Good times at VCU though... :D

kjohnson 08-03-2007 18:30

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Originally Posted by RKElectricalman (Post 593346)
Correct, 384 was momentarily stuck, and 1086 was stuck enought to actually bend their mechanism as a 45deg angle :eek: But yea, I'm pretty sure we only got stuck once or zero times, because I remember being behind that player station and going "Holy smokes! NO!!!!! Flip down and reverse out!" I'm the human player so either I was day dreaming, or my eyes just zoomed in and saw it happen to 540... I have no clue..:p

Good times at VCU though... :D

1086 after being bent:

sporno 08-03-2007 18:50

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ahhh .... jeez.. anyone remember 540s match where we got pushed into the rack then were stuck... ahh good times

VanMan 08-03-2007 19:18

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Originally Posted by nukemknight (Post 593397)
1086 after being bent:

wow. That looks bad.

Crebb 08-03-2007 19:23

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Originally Posted by VanMan (Post 593417)
wow. That looks bad.

That's why we have spares my friend.

FunkyRatDemon 08-03-2007 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin (Post 592780)
Same thing happened alot at PNW regional...

Ya...sorry about that, Dane messed up....:(
Hope nothing got "crunched"

(We were involved in a major flipping at the rack)

geeknerd99 11-03-2007 20:56

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Bad webcast-capture, but it gets the point across.



It's not apparent in the video, but all 4 of our wheels are off the ground. That was actually a good thing, since the autonomous code kept running the wheels for a few seconds longer.

In all honesty, 2106 (or whoever tipped us) really shouldn't have been DQed. We were stuck, and the only way down was... down. If they didn't push us, the swinging of the spiders would have knocked us over anyways. It's actually rather beautiful how we were right at the tipping point yet we didn't go over.

That, and we proved to the world how strong the rack actually is.

kjohnson 11-03-2007 21:11

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Heres a pic I got of 401. The back of their frame is on the ground, but none of the wheels. (I cropped and zoomed in)


Captain Thunder 11-03-2007 21:26

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That happened to up but we were playing defence. We had the other robots claw pinned between our robot and the spider leg. (they were trying to put on a ringer) when they got free the rack swung back and we flipped. oh well. we only broke our claw, an easy fix.

VanMan 13-03-2007 15:35

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Wow. How did they get up there?

wilsonmw04 13-03-2007 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknerd99 (Post 595245)
Bad webcast-capture, but it gets the point across.


In all honesty, 2106 (or whoever tipped us) really shouldn't have been DQed.

Wasn't 2106. it was the team across the pits lane from us. Can't remember thier name at the moment.

geeknerd99 13-03-2007 17:43

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My bad. I'm pretty sure it was 21-something though.

It was a ramp bot that looked like a bulldozer. Whatever the case, it's irrelevant now. VCU is long over and we won the match anyways.


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