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bhsrobotics1671 14-03-2007 01:13

Air Compressors
 
does anyone know if air compressors are allowed in the pits for pneumatic tools and such?

Thanks




-Andrew Nabors
Team 1671

AdamHeard 14-03-2007 01:33

Re: Air Compressors
 
team 254 had one so I'm assuming they're all right.

artdutra04 14-03-2007 01:54

Re: Air Compressors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhsrobotics1671 (Post 597171)
does anyone know if air compressors are allowed in the pits for pneumatic tools and such?

Many teams who do have small air compressors in their pits may do so because of pneumatic tires on their robots.

David Brinza 14-03-2007 02:17

Re: Air Compressors
 
Team 980 brings a small compressor for riveting.

Gabe 14-03-2007 03:33

Re: Air Compressors
 
Compressed air is also handy for blowing metal chips out of the robot.

Teched3 14-03-2007 07:38

Re: Air Compressors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bhsrobotics1671 (Post 597171)
does anyone know if air compressors are allowed in the pits for pneumatic tools and such?

Thanks

-Andrew Nabors
Team 1671

If you use the compressor provided in the kit, it must be set up exactly as required if it was mounted on the robot, with regulator pressure not to exceed 60 psi, and max pressure at 120 psi. :)

Al Skierkiewicz 14-03-2007 07:55

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Andrew,
There is no specific rule against it. However, common sense does rule here and electrical systems being stretched along with the small pit size will cause some problems if you bring a big compressor. If you trip a breaker, other teams will not be happy.

bhsrobotics1671 14-03-2007 21:15

Re: Air Compressors
 
thanks guys!!

very helpful!

AdamHeard 14-03-2007 21:28

Re: Air Compressors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 597227)
Andrew,
There is no specific rule against it. However, common sense does rule here and electrical systems being stretched along with the small pit size will cause some problems if you bring a big compressor. If you trip a breaker, other teams will not be happy.

They seem to be very easy to trip...

At LA we were running 4 battery chargers and a Vex battery charger and our braker was constantly tripping... I have a feeling it was one of the neighbor teams though.

GBIT 14-03-2007 21:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 597821)
They seem to be very easy to trip...

At LA we were running 4 battery chargers and a Vex battery charger and our braker was constantly tripping... I have a feeling it was one of the neighbor teams though.

if you dont mind me asking what do you use vex for. my team has 2 kits and i was looking for creative uses.

thanks
jared

bhsrobotics1671 15-03-2007 00:58

Re: Air Compressors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 597821)
They seem to be very easy to trip...

At LA we were running 4 battery chargers and a Vex battery charger and our braker was constantly tripping... I have a feeling it was one of the neighbor teams though.


alrighty ill keep that in mind. thanks!




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AdamHeard 15-03-2007 01:29

Re: Air Compressors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GBIT (Post 597835)
if you dont mind me asking what do you use vex for. my team has 2 kits and i was looking for creative uses.

thanks
jared

Well, last year we used them as backup batteries. But, since the rules say we have to use the new charger we no longer do that.

The other use we have now is to power our chiclet. We also run all the functions of our control board off the battery off of a vex battery (we don't use this feature at competition though) for exhibitions and such.

karlcswanson 15-03-2007 02:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 598002)
Well, last year we used them as backup batteries. But, since the rules say we have to use the new charger we no longer do that.

The other use we have now is to power our chiclet. We also run all the functions of our control board off the battery off of a vex battery (we don't use this feature at competition though) for exhibitions and such.

You can use any backup battery charger as of Team Update #13

ChuckDickerson 09-03-2008 16:38

Re: Air Compressors
 
Dug up this tread from last year. Same question this year. Are small air compressors allowed in the pits this year for such things as pneumatic tires, air tools, blowing out shavings in your robot and such? I searched through the manual and other than <R90>, <R93>, and <R94> concerning using the KoP air compressor to charge the robot pneumatic system I can find no reference to any rule prohibiting a small air compressor for other use in the pits. We took a small compressor to our regional last year with no problem but at the championship in Atlanta one of the green shirt safety judges told us they were not allowed in the pits and that we couldn't use it. I explained that we weren't using it to charge our robot pneumatics and that in fact we had no pneumatics on our robot but he said no matter and told us to put it away. I didn't know the green shirt safety judges had that authority but I felt it more prudent not to argue and just comply. It wasn't a big deal just that we had pneumatic tires on our cart and one of the tires had a slow leak that needed airing up every once and a while. I am wondering if anyone else has had an issue with a small air compressor in the pits?

EricH 09-03-2008 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepWater (Post 715190)
Dug up this tread from last year. Same question this year. Are small air compressors allowed in the pits this year for such things as pneumatic tires, air tools, blowing out shavings in your robot and such? I searched through the manual and other than <R90>, <R93>, and <R94> concerning using the KoP air compressor to charge the robot pneumatic system I can find no reference to any rule prohibiting a small air compressor for other use in the pits. We took a small compressor to our regional last year with no problem but at the championship in Atlanta one of the green shirt safety judges told us they were not allowed in the pits and that we couldn't use it. I explained that we weren't using it to charge our robot pneumatics and that in fact we had no pneumatics on our robot but he said no matter and told us to put it away. I didn't know the green shirt safety judges had that authority but I felt it more prudent not to argue and just comply. It wasn't a big deal just that we had pneumatic tires on our cart and one of the tires had a slow leak that needed airing up every once and a while. I am wondering if anyone else has had an issue with a small air compressor in the pits?

They don't have that authority, to my knowledge. Unless, of course, it's unsafe.

Also, you need to look in Section 3. No reference to compressors, and the only one for air is air horns as noisemakers. So it should be allowed.

If your cart tires have a slow leak, you might want to slime them.


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