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Joe Johnson 14-03-2007 15:04

Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Based on the results from weeks 1 & 2, there has been some discussion concerning veteran teams not having strong years [Note 1].

Well, rookie teams had better make sure their mouth gaurds are in place because this is the week that the veterans come out swinging hard.

Now to the predictions[Note 2]

Boilermaker Regional:
  • I have to go with one of the Grand daddies of all of Veterans. Coming off their big win in St. Louis, the TechnoKats (Team #45) earn their second banner this season.
  • I am also going with my heart rather than my head [Note 3] and picking Team #573, the MechWarriors, to repeat their winning ways from the Great Lakes Regional in Ypsilanti.
Chesapeake Regional:
  • That noise coming out of Annapolis? It's the sound of the Buzz Robotics (Team #175) using their Dewalt XPR transmissions to win another regional this year.
  • This time, my heart was really pulling for me to go with Mo & the rest of the great folks at TJ2 but I just couldn't do it. Look for Team #75 to have a good run, but they'll need luck at some key moments to take home the big trophy this week (they already won the Chairman's Award at NJ so they don't really need a win here to make their season).
Detroit Regional:
  • In this case, my heart and my head agree. While I had almost no interaction with Chief Delphi this year, I did see a demo of Team #47's robot just before shipping. You heard it here first: The Mojo's back in Pontiac [Note 4]. Look for a lot of scoring and a killer ramp from the Mighty Chiefs.
  • I saw The Killer Bees (Team #33) robot online and I was afraid, very afraid. I was surprized that they just couldn't get things done in Ypsilanti last weekend. I expect that things will be different this week. With a week of experience their drivers should be in better form plus Jim Zondag's will have another few fix-it-windows to do his programming magic (they can already score in automonous -- but I'd guess Jim has some extra coding tricks up his sleave), look for Team #33 to be in the hunt if not in the winner circle this weekend in Detroit.
  • Team Rush (#27) is always a strong entry. This is their first week out of the shoot but they should be strong as usual.
  • Thunder Chickens (Team #217) -- They had a great showing in St. Louis. But they have a tough choice to make: shift weight to make the arm more robust or put those gorgeous lifters back in service? It's hard to predict but I suppose the either way they go they will be a formidable presence on Saturday afternoon.
  • Las Guerrillas (Team #469) had a bruising weekend in Ypsilanti. Rumor has it their robot was in pieces all day Thursday. By Saturday morning they had most of the machine together, but there were still bugs to be worked out and drivers to train. To my surprise they were drafted 3rd overall. They have a very large ramp and a serviceable arm. If they can get the last few bugs worked out and develop some of that driver skill that we've come to expect from Las Guerrillas, they have a good chance for a big win in Detroit.
Kansas City Regional:
  • Three words: Baxter Bomb Squad (#16) The smart money has them playing a key role on the alliance that wins the KCR. I just took a peek at the Bomb Squad's robot from their website. Just as I expected, this year's robot is another funicular extravaganza. Nobody does cables as well as those Arkansas folk. Bottom line: Mountain Home gains yet another big trophy.
Midwest Regional:
  • There's History, there's Mythology, and then there's Legendary. The Midwest has it all this weekend. Brains meets brawn. David meets Goliath. Beauty meets the Beast. Raul-the-Magnificent meets Mr. Bill. Wildstang (Team #111) meets Beatty (Team #71). I can't predict which will win or even if they'll somehow break the curse and get to play on the same alliance this year. But I can tell you this, I will be SHOCKED if the Midwest Regional Championship Alliance doesn't have one or both of these teams.
Peachtree Regional:
  • I am afraid that I have to punt on punting this regional. I just don't have the data I need to make a sensible contribution to the body of knowledge. There are 47 teams competing with only 2 with numbers below 600. I am sure that there are some great teams in there somewhere but I am just going to wait to learn about them from someone else.
Silcon Valley Regional:
  • Here is a tip for anyone making regional predictions: Bet on the Cheesy Poofs (Team #254). They won YET ANOTHER regional last week in LA. These guys are the Yankees of FIRST. They just keep on winning and winning and winning. FYI: They have won EVERY Silcon Valley Regional to date EVER. I don't expect that streak will end this year. Go Poofs!
UTC Regional:
  • I am not quite ready to call Bristol-Myers Squibb (Team #25) the Cheesy Poofs of the East but I'm getting close. They look like they had another dominant weekend in NJ two weeks ago. With that big win under their belts I expect the UTC Championship to be well within their reach. But there are other veterans that they'll need to get through if they want another banner. If the 2006 Championships taught us anything it is that, while Team #25 is tough, they can't do it alone against three capable & strategically savy foes.
  • There are a ton of veteran teams at UTC that should be called out including Aztechs (#157), Aces High (#176) and Int'l Fuel Cell (#177), but I am going to pass over all these and get right to the meat of the matter: Sight unseen, I am gong to predict that The Rage (#173) is going to have a monster weekend. This game plays to their strength. They should have a great year.
  • Bottom line: The winning alliance will have Team #25 or Team #173. Run to your bookie and place your bets.
New York Regional:
  • If I go with my head, I would have to pick Bound Brook (Team #56). Ethicon had a pretty good run down in Florida in Week 2. They need to build on that but having a regional under their belt will be a huge plus for them in NY where nearly every team is going to be ironing out their first regional bugs. ROBBE is not a lock by any stretch of the imagination but they are almost certain to be in the hunt for a high seed and will be a major force after lunch on Saturday.
  • But my heart says that the RoboWizards (#522) will be in the mix in NY as well. I remember working with them in the pits at the very first NY City Regional. They have certainly come of age since then. On the plus side, they have a solid ramp design this year and they have a strong history of winning (especially at the NY Regional). On the minus side, they'll need to have help. If the robots in NY this weekend can't climb their ramp it is going to be a long weekend for the RoboWizards.
So those are my predictions and my veteran teams to watch this weekend.

This is all in the spirit of fun and sports. Please don't take anything too seriously.

Good luck to all teams.

Go Chiefs!

Joe J.

Notes:
[1] I think this view is is somewhat strange given that teams 4, 25, 39, 45, 60, 86, 103, 123, 175, 247, 250, 254, 272, 330. 337, 462, 501, 503, 537, 540, and 573 each have a shiny new banner to hang in their rafters, but we can have that debate another day.

[2] Read the the title of this thread. I am making all my predictions very veteran focused. Don't PM me with a bunch of angry messages about how your team was neglected, wha, wha, wha... ...This is just a fun thing to get discussion going. Calm down ;-)

[3] My daughter, Sarah, is on Team #573. Though my schedule didn't allow me to do much more than to provide a few bits of advice here and there, I still have a connection to the team -- Go Brother Rice/Marian.

[4] Actually, I like the sound of that phrase "The Mojo's back in Pontiac." Especially since I saw the other Pontiac team (GM Powertrain & Pontiac Northern #65) last weekend and, I must say, they looked very tough. They can really score the tubes. Nice job Huskies. I suppose that both Pontiac teams will do alright this year.

Travis Hoffman 14-03-2007 15:07

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Joe - care to make this a weekly occurrence?

Josh Murphy 14-03-2007 15:15

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

In this case, my heart and my head agree. While I had almost no interaction with Chief Delphi this year, I did see a demo of Team #47's robot just before shipping. You heard it here first: The Mojo's back in Pontiac [Note 4]. Look for a lot of scoring and a killer ramp from the Mighty Chiefs.


Good luck to all teams.

Go Chiefs!

Joe J.

Notes:
[4] Actually, I like the sound of that phrase "The Mojo's back in Pontiac." Especially since I saw the other Pontiac team (GM Powertrain & Pontiac Northern #65) last weekend and. I must say, they looked very tough. They can really score the tubes. Nice job Huskies. I suppose that both Pontiac teams will do alright this year.
Thanks Dr. Joe.

Swan217 14-03-2007 15:18

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 597535)
  • Las Guerrillas (Team #469) had a bruising weekend in Ypsilanti. Rumor has it their robot was in pieces all day Thursday. By Saturday morning they had most of the machine together, but there were still bugs to be worked out and drivers to train. To my surprise they were drafted 3rd overall. They have a very large ramp and a serviceable arm. If they can get the last few bugs worked out and develop some of that driver skill that we've come to expect from Las Guerrillas, they have a good chance for a big win in Detroit.

469's robot was in pieces on Thursday in Ypsi in 2004 and 2005 too, but it didn't seem to hurt them then. If anything, a Guerrillas robot in pieces scares me even more.

Corey Balint 14-03-2007 15:27

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T. Hoffman (Post 597536)
Joe - care to make this a weekly occurrence?

Seconded. I love this Joe, its awesome. A nice fun post, heck if you dont wanna do it, I will. ;) :cool:

Tom Bottiglieri 14-03-2007 15:32

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Look for 195 at UTC. They've got a killer design, practice robot, and field. A trip to Einstein last year under their drivers' belts doesn't hurt either.

Go Big Blue!
PS. I have nothing but a loose affiliation with this team... :yikes:

Brandon Holley 14-03-2007 16:22

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Joe this was awesome...feels like when the swami (chris berhman) runs through his weekly predictions for the NFL


I agree with tom...195 will be a force at UTC as well as 237/177 and of course the mighty 25.

Also in NY i'd look for 11. 1 regional under their belt, and 2 weeks of fix it windows makes them look like a viable contender down there.

P.S. : Just like tom, i have only a loose affiliation with my hometown team

AdamHeard 14-03-2007 16:27

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
A very informative and interesting post...

Anyone know how many of these will be web casted in some form or another?

Brandon Holley 14-03-2007 16:30

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Midwest, Peachtree, UTC, NY, and Silicon Valley will all be webcast

Rich Ross 14-03-2007 17:32

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
The Blue Alliance should sign this guy to a podcasting contract. That way, every week (if FIRSTcast starts existing on a weekly basis instead of a kindof whenever one) we hear the normal firstcast stuff, plus we get to hear from the Doctor himself. You could even have cool effects ("the doctor is in!" "Those are the winners, if you disagree, better luck next week")

Then we could see how accurate he is, and maybe even have showdowns between Dr. J and other firstcasters.

Dang, thats a cool idea.

Lil' Lavery 14-03-2007 18:03

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Johnson (Post 597535)
Peachtree Regional:
  • I am afraid that I have to punt on punting this regional. I just don't have the data I need to make a sensible contribution to the body of knowledge. There are 47 teams competing with only 2 with numbers below 600. I am sure that there are some great teams in there somewhere but I am just going to wait to learn about them from someone else.

116 went down to Duluth last year and had a blast in one rough 'n' tumble defensive regional, I would expect much of the same this year. Like Joe said, this is one of the youngest regionals in FIRST, but it also has some emerging forces. If a veteran team does win Peachtree, it's most likely going to be 281, who won Peachtree in 2005 and was a finalist in 2006. But I'll give three younger teams that top my list for who will bring home the 2007 Peachtree Regional Championship banner.
  • 1261 won Peachtree in 2005 and 2006, and is a team on the verge of exploding onto the national scene. In 2006 they debuted their first swerve drive (and fast and agile beauty I may add), let's see what they have in stock for us in 2007.
  • 1902 debuted for the Exploding Minotaurs in Florida last weekend, and came out strong. Well, time for 1369 to show off their half of the collaboration. Rumor has it the Minotaur's autonomous isn't quite as consistent, but we'll have to wait and see.
  • The Chamblee Gear Grinders hadn't won a trophy, of any type, until they made Einstein last year. Last year's Curie champ had an innovate, unique, and effective design, and I expect a lot from them again this year. Look out for 1139.

Joel J 14-03-2007 18:28

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Oh, man.. great picks!

My 2 cents:

Boilermaker Regional:

1501

Chesapeake Regional:

175, of course. But there's also.... 768?

Detroit Regional:

217

Kansas City Regional:

935

Midwest Regional:

how about this: not wildstang, and not BEATTY.

Peachtree Regional:

281

Silcon Valley Regional:

Who wouldn't count on 254?

I'll say that 488 is due, however!

UTC Regional:

176.

New York Regional:

375, at last!?

Doug Leppard 14-03-2007 19:55

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 597707)
[*]1902 debuted for the Exploding Minotaurs in Florida last weekend, and came out strong. Well, time for 1369 to show off their half of the collaboration. Rumor has it the Minotaur's autonomous isn't quite as consistent, but we'll have to wait and see.
[/list]

Watch out for 1369. 1902 is sending part of their team with 1369 to get them up to speed, that includes hardware and software.

It will be interesting to see how they will be doing.

JackN 14-03-2007 21:57

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
I agree with Doctor Joe about Detroit, but I think at Boilermaker, two younger teams 829 and 1023 will shock some people and take home the trophy. Watch out for 85 and 292, both build strong robots and never get the credit they deserve.

Ed Coleman 14-03-2007 22:08

Re: Prediction: Veterans take off the gloves in Week 3
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1derboy (Post 597850)
I agree with Doctor Joe about Detroit, but I think at Boilermaker, two younger teams 829 and 1023 will shock some people and take home the trophy. Watch out for 85 and 292, both build strong robots and never get the credit they deserve.


I like this kid. Good pick for Boilermaker. As a mentor for 829, I would love to see us hooked up with 45 again for another win this year.


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