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Can someone please tell me why they cut the tubes???? I even saw him cut a spoiler after a match, which didn't make since, because the team never got the chance to remove it them selves. I'm just looking for some clarification.
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the way i see it: Three Reasons:
1) they take the keepers out so that they can keep the match moving. Sometimes robots don't want to release their beloved keepers, and the ref must "convince" them to do so. 2) the cutting of spoilers (and i guess it could go for ringers too) is that those toroids, for some reason or other, should not have been counted due to penalties or other events. 3) It drives the crowd wild! they love seeing the ref cut those things open. |
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I found it rather odd that the head ref has a knife set or whatever it was.
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yea they did the same thing for the first match at BAE, I don't think i saw it done for any other matches. I think it was just more for show then anything practical.
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He cut 3 of our tubes at GLR.
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I was not at this regional, so I cannot speak as if I know the entire reasons for cutting the innertubes, but from what I understand, it seems that the innertubes were cut because it was easier to do that than to take them off the spider legs or out of robot's manipulators. If that is the case, I must say I am astonished to see FIRST do something like that. If it was done out of laziness, as it seems it was, I am astonished that first would allow that to happen. It only adds to the partially true sterotype that Americans are lazy which completely goes against FIRST's goals.
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I was at this regional and I was a volunteer for field reset. The robots on the field were doing a pretty good job at deflating these things let alone the head ref doing it with a pocket knife. It was a nightmare trying to keep the field going with ringers getting poped left and right. There was one match where one robot popped 7 tubes and several other occasions where at least 5 went. All I could say is "why did first choose these tubes".:)
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That would be our Keeper being cut off (Team 326). It was the first of two tubes he cut off of are robot, the ruling we were giving was that the Keeper was apparently still on the robot. I don't know if you guys can see that. The Second time was a spoiler that was hanging on the black rubber piece on the spider arm. To add insult to injury, he gave us the tube back, we hang it in our pit as a reminder that he can put keepers on during auton.
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come on... just let a man be a MAN! tell me you wouldn't gnash things as much as you could given the chance.
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OK i might be a little off topic but I really missed this man at the Detroit Regional. Teams were getting rough. Some rules were either ignored or over looked but hitting outside the bumper zone occurred breaking arms on multiple teams. I know if Ron was present teams would have been warned alot earlier about how rough they were playing. Hope whatever reason he was not there for this year does not happen again next year.
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The head ref at Boilermaker cut a ton of keepers. He wouldn't even bother trying to get a keeper out of a claw. He ran right out with scissors and cut it up.
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I was personally not a big fan of euthenizing defenseless tubes, even in a scoring position. If I saw a team with a keeper, I went up to them and asked if we'd be able to yank the tube from their grippers, instead of stabbing first and asking questions later.
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well here is something to think about would you rather have the head ref cut a keeper that was not scored but could be scored or leave it to be accidentaly scored late and get your team disqualified for scoring a late keeper.
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another instance where i saw the refs cutting a keeper was to extract the tube w/o moving the robot.
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After going to Boilermaker regional and Great Lakes Regional, I found different refs had their own styles. The guys at boilermaker calmly cut into the tubes with scissors, making it easy to repair them. Ron, on the other hand, repeatedly stabbed the tubes with a knife, scaring drive teams.
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Well if they cut them you can probably get one as a souvenir, thats if their not planning on patching those bad boys up and reusing them :cool:
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deflated tubes do make for wonderful skirts. I own one in each color myself. :p
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