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2007 Chesapeake Regional - Discussion
Discuss the Chesapeake regional here--anything you're finding there, comments about bots, etc.
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It has been an interesting day here, I have been very surprised by the number of teams that were no shows for the practice matches. Most matches were 1v1 or 1v2. A lot of teams still seemed to be assembling their robots. Inspections seemed to be behind, and teams seemed to be having problems getting approved.
Very few teams have a working auto mode, there have been a few teams 888 and 1629 who have placed a keeper in auto mode. Other then that I can't say I saw more then 10-15 working autos. I will be curious to see how things go tomorrow in terms of pairings, and who is working. As for our robot SPIKE seems to be happy, we swapped out our hook for a claw grabber, and that has wored great. I am curious to see what others think. |
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I thought the driver's meeting today after matches were over was done very well, and the questions were answered more thoroughly than I've heard before. I'm looking forward to tomorrow, I can't wait to see some of these robots in real-match scenarios.
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Well, the lights out and the early cut-off didn't help much but we managed to make it to every one of our matches even though inspection took almost an hour!
We made some mods before closing and I think we are ready to go for tomorrow. Just the usual tightening and tinkering. Looking forward to seeing all of out there... Team 2199 - The "Robo-Lions!" |
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175 has a working auto as well. I predict that there will be a new national high score at Chesapeake.
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Team 007 had a pretty easy day, compared to previous years. Despite missing our first practice match, we ended up getting inspected quickly and early, and we've been able to test everything our robot should be able to do. Autonomous works, our ramp works, and we can reach all three spiders with relative ease. The upcoming matches should be rather interesting.
The only real thing that I was a little set aback by was the need for a "Team Safety Log" as well as a compilation of Material Safety Data Sheets, and related safety items (like Baking Soda for leaking batteries). I honestly had never known about that until today when two of the, well, I guess you could call them "Safety Judges" came around and asked me about them. SURPRISE!!! So, that's what I'm doing right now. As well as getting together anything else I think we might need tomorrow that I can get from my house. Best of luck to all teams out there, and I'll see you tomorrow!!! |
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Chesapeake has always been one of those regionals where if you have a really good alliance, the points will pile on.
I think at least one alliance is going to get over 400 points. 512 is very unlikely, though. |
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ehm ehm.........
there is already a thread with the on going discussion regarding 2007 Chesapeake Regional http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=49350 Now lets not worry, but score like crazy FIRSTers! :D |
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This thread is for discussion of stuff at competition, namely robot commentaries, high scores, etc. The other thread is more for a general discussion.
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This is also funny: in 4 or 5 matches 175 or 1111 have either been paired with or against each other (3 times with, 1 time against.) Anyone notice this with other combinations?
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The scheduling has been absurd, we have been paired against our neighbors at least twice each. It seems down right silly to have this kind of pairing, it needs to be more random.
Today has been great for us! We got 264 in one match, if we had had more ringers we may have have broken the national average. There was a lot of problems with inspections, they finished at 1:30 today. A lot of teams were missing from matches throughout the day which was unfortunant. I am looking forward to tomorrow, it should be interesting. Curious to what others thought. |
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Out of 6 matches today, we played three with only two robots on our alliance. Not to mention a ringer on our flag mount, the one place we can get a ringer stuck on us that we can't get it off, unless we drop our ramps. This trend of missing matches is getting disturbing, it really hurts your alliance partners. Just a shout out to all teams: if you can move at all, make it to your match. Your alliance partners will thank you, even if you're not quick or high-scoring. It's a terrible psyche-out for your alliance when they're down a partner, and you can always try to play defense.
We have a detailed scouting database; when it's finished I'll post some of it. Our stats show a big discrepancy between scoring potential and standings. |
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I wish I could share our teams scouting info, but I am not authorized to release such information.
I hope the roads are not too bad tomorrow. |
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You shouldn't have this snow problem tomorrow. However, if you do wear shorts, make sure you wear either a hoodie or sweatshirts or at least 2 polos :D.
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Okay, so for our stats...
The top ten teams by the standings: 293 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 836 - 17 ringers in 5 matches 75 - 18 ringers in 6 matches 1748 - 0 ringers in 6 matches 768 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 1418 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 1894 - 0 ringers in 6 matches 2234 - 0 ringers in 5 matches 1727 - 10 ringers in 5 matches 1218 - 8 ringers in 5 matches Averages: 836 - 3.4 293 - 3.2 768 - 3.2 1418 - 3.2 75 - 3 1727 - 2 1218 - 1.6 1748 - 0 1894 - 0 2234 - 0 Teams who have scored the most ringers: 1629 - 21 ringers in 6 matches 293 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 768 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 1418 - 19 ringers in 6 matches 75 - 18 ringers in 6 matches 175 - 18 ringers in 5 matches 836 - 17 ringers in 5 matches 341 - 13 ringers in 5 matches 614 - 10 ringers in 6 matches 1727 - 10 ringers in 5 matches The same list of teams with average ringers (to account for different numbers of matches)(standings in parenthasis): (21)175 - 3.6 (34)1629 - 3.5 (2)836 - 3.4 (1)293 - 3.2 (5)768 - 3.2 (6)1418 - 3.2 (3)75 - 3 (14)341 - 2.6 (9)1727 - 2 (17)614 - 1.7 *friendly note* We've noticed this weekend how often one match can mess up a team's average number of ringers. Defenders, tipping, and "unfortunate circumstances" should be remembered or at least noted when looking at statistics; a team can't control if another team's human player rings them with a tube in such a way that it can't be removed. Make of these stats what you will...we aren't trying to elevate or put down anyone by posting this, we're just a bit surprised that the number of ringers scored doesn't necessarily correlate to the standings. Some very high-ranked teams haven't scored a tube, which could easily be attributed to playing defense well and helping out your partners. Likewise, this game makes it exceptionally difficult for one good scoring robot to carry an entire alliance, hence some high-scoring teams who aren't ranked as highly. |
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Steph - thanks for this awesome list
Anyway I hesitate to tell you this, but team we've actually played six matches already. Out of curiosity, how many ringers and keepers has Meshach scored? Steve |
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I forgot to add to the other match, good luck to everyone at Chesapeake tomorrow and stay dry/warm/safe on the trip to the acadamy tomorrow morning. |
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We are a first year team that happens to be doing well. Any info to avoid a technical problem would be useful. Thanks! |
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We also experienced the Safety Advisors telling us that we should have a Safety Log, specialized Safety manual, training logs, Material Data Sheets and so on. It was a bit disconcerting, especially to our inexperienced safety representative, who was standing in for our ill Safety Captain.
We were using our new scouting software yesterday and today and came up with pretty accurate predictions about team performance. Our scouting mentor TJ was fixing some glitches in the software tonight and will be around tomorrow for anyone who is using it or wants to and needs some guidance. In addition to having a great day playing with all our alliance partners and opponents, Team 768 was fortunate to have a local tv station come and do a great piece on FIRST (it's only taken us 4 years to tallking to them). Here's the link: - and they did an awesome job of covering the regional in a short time...here's the link http://wjz.com/seenon/local_story_075152422.html We are hoping it stays up for a few days, at least! See you all tomorrow :-) Robyn |
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Assuming anyone is still up working on their stats like I am! :)
Our approach to the team selection process is - we don't use the final standings to determine our selections. We see the qualifications as a way to get data, irregardless of where the team ends up. And as to "unfortunate circumstances" - we know EXACTLY what you mean about getting a ringer caught in the flag! (Thanks T!! :) ) Other than a view differences in match counts and ringer counts - my data is very close to Steph's data and reflects the type of analysis that we do as well. Okay - way too late here in Annapolis - see you all in the morning! Drive carefully! Steve Quote:
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Thanks for the Info. Its going to be a great help for alot of teams.
Its shocking to see how a lot of good teams are ranked really low. Something similar is going on with our team too. We were the semi-finalist for the NASA/VCU Regional, but at Chesapeake we kept getting defence on our robot and were not able to score that well. I'm really excited about tomorrow; even though matches were not that fun today, but i think tomorrow can be a lot of fun. Good Luck Teams! Imad |
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That's at least a start. Now we need a national network to cover the Chesapeake Regional like ESPN or ESPN2 or ESPNU. Now that would actually be really well-deserving of hype.
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Alliance number 1 seems really strong with 75 and 293.. 1st and 3rd place alliances. With 203, they will surely be the team to watch and beat.
Good luck to all teams in the finals!!! |
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293 75 203 Alliance 2: 1629 204 836 Alliance 3: 175 1719 1975 Alliance 4: 1894 614 611 Alliance 5: 1418 165 768 Alliance 6: 1727 341 2234 Alliance 7: 1748 339 612 Alliance 8: 888 869 2199 At least I believe these are the correct number for the Alliances :/ The teams are correct in who they are with... I know that 1 and 8 are correct... can anyone double check? haha As of quater finals, Alliances 5, 6, 7, 8 all got the first win |
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seed 8 wins first match :mad:
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I wish FIRST would give the final alliances :( |
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I'm not there, I'm just getting updates from a friend who is.
we lost on a penalty... hitting outside of the bumper zone for 10 pts. I don't know who hit whom. |
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Yeah I'm getting updates from someone on 75... as well as when they get posted on the FIRST site
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It looks like lower seeds are 3-0 here. I guess we are getting all the upsets that didn't happen in the first round of the NCAA Tournament... |
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1, 2, 3, 4 seeds all lose first match...
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looks like we will have an upset here...
first rounds are done... let's see if alliance 1 can pull off a much needed win!! |
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2: 1629, 204, 836 3: 175, 1719, 1975 4: 1894, 614, 611 5: 1418, 165, 768 6: 1727, 341, 2234 7: 1748, 339, 612 8: 888, 869, 2199 |
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2nd match of the quater finals:
Alliance 1 wins over alliance 8 making it 1-1 Alliance 5 wins over alliance 4 making it 2-0 ---> Alliance 5 is moving on |
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we win 54 - 32. back on track i hope.
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It seems that all we need to win is a row of 6, and we better be able to do that. |
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I think I had many alliances in the wrong spot... actually I had all but 1 and 8 in the wrong spot :o |
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Alliance 6 wins over alliance 3 making it 2-0 ---> Alliance 6 is moving on Last battle for Alliance 1 and 8... |
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5, 6, 7 seeds all win 2-0 in quarterfinals.
1 vs 8 rubber match right now. |
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Alliances 1, 5, 6, 7 will be moving on to the semi-finals
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eeeeeeeeeeek.... 32-30, but we win.
We will have quick turnover into the semifinals (we're match 1), and 1418-768-165 is very good. We better pick up our level of play in the second round. |
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Oh yeah! Man those close scores... MAN I wish I was down there right now!!!
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Alliance 1 takes it over Alliance 5 with a score of 36-34
Alliance 7 takes it over Alliance 6 with a score of 66-32 |
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whew, we win 36-34
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Apparently, we got 30 points in penalties plus a yellow card in that match. ![]() What is this, the world cup? |
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And yes, that is the world cup :) But OUCH 30 penalty PLUS yellow and still being victorious!? They gotta stop scaring us like this haha. |
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AHHHHH the suspense is killing me!!! I'm glad to know we're both cheering for the same alliance here haha |
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On to the finals... go Team New Jersey.
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Alliance 1 vs Alliance 7 for the FINALS!!!!!!!!! |
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Finals!!!!
Match 1: Alliance 1 - 132 points Alliance 7 - 4 points Win 1 for Alliance Number 1!!!! Match 2: Alliance 1 - 34 Alliance 7 - 7 ALLIANCE 1 WINS!!!! Match 3: (if needed) Alliance 1 - Alliance 7 - WINNER: Alliance 1 - 293, 75, 203 Congrats to Alliance number one; 293, 75, 203 Great effort to Alliance number seven; 1748, 339, 612 |
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I love the pics Scott!!!!
I am soooo excited right now oh man.. And yes I know neither team on that alliance is my team but I love team 75 and have friends there. And we've won before with 293 :) Congrats to 75, 293, and 203!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Congrats to the whole alliance but especially to the folks on 293 who were around in 2005 (my senior year). Bask in the glory, you guys really earned it. |
New Jersey Alliance Takes Annapolis By Storm
293 - Hopewell Valley Central HS, Pennington, NJ
75 - Hillsborough HS, Hillsborough, NJ 203 - Camden County Technical HS, Sicklerville, NJ |
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It doesn't matter because Terrapin zone still won. It's still prime recruiting area for the Terps. But go Dirty Jerz!! You guys finally pulled it off!
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Well Team 1111 had a blast at Chesapeake. We finished middle of the pack ... no major robot breakdowns ... danced like no one was watching ... walked away with the Sportmanship Award. We're declaring victory!
Steve Graf, thought I might see you out there at the Naval Academy. Sorry you didn't make it. You would have enjoyed it. -Chip Tucker Powerhawks Mentor |
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So i just got back from teh regional. It was simply a blast.
I would like to thank 339 and 1748 for being an awesome alliances. It was a lot of fun battling through quarter finals and semi finals. Also i would like to congratulate winning alliance 293, 75, and 203 for awesome final matches. I'll be keeping an eye on you guys in Atlanta. Also Congrats to 1757 for winning Chairmans and 768 for EI. You guys well deserved it. Sigh.....what a great weekend; now i only need to work on my soar throat :yikes: Imad |
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Congrats to Rex for their incredible work and their Chairman's Award win.
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Team 1727 congratulates all members of the Baltimore Area Alliance for the great job done at the Chesapeake regional. The BAA - now comprised of ten teams - received the Regional Chairman's Award, the Engineering Inspiration Award, one regional finalist, and had 6 teams in the finals!
Go FIRST BAA! |
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Those finals matches had us working hard, what a way to finish the regional.
Good luck to all qualifying teams in Atlanta:D |
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And the dance off was ridiculous! I can't wait to get the videos James took and get them up. I'll be sure to post them! Plus all the conga lines, chanting, and LIMBO! This was an absolute blast, and I'm having a hard time remembering a prouder moment than when we ran down past all the judges, amidst everyone, to get our award. It was great! Now on to my massive make-up workload... |
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Yeah, that was an absolute blast! I'm not going to bother restating everything my team has already said, but I agree with them whole-heartedly!! And a special thanks from me to team 1284 (DART) and anyone else who joined that incredible dance-off! We really had fun with you guys!
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Congrats to teams 293, 203, and 75 on the win. Great job guys, awesome plays out there.
Just one thing I want to ask other teams that were on the red side of the field, particularly station 3. Were you getting any interference in your controls during the beginning of each match? Our robot's left side was out during the first 20 seconds each match in that station. We notified the radio guys about it, and they insisted it was our programming, though in all of our system checks, there was no such error. Just wondering if anyone else had similar problems, or if it was indeed unique to our robot. |
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I agree, it was an aswome dance off. The video will be up soon, however it takes a long time to upload a gig to Google video. |
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username115, we had a problem, too, though it was on the blue alliance, and I think it was the same station 1886 had to have three restarts on yesterday. Our ramps refused to drop, and one of our joysticks wouldn't register. We got a similar response. But, these things happen, and it's over, so we can't do much now, right? So let it go. Not much else to do.
And Shadow, you've got to let me know as soon as that loads! |
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@Spark Hawk
yeah, I know it's over, too bad too, I wish we were headed to another regional, but sadly, we aren't. This is my senior year, and I feel I got a lot out of it. I really just wanted to know if it was a mistake on our end. I like feeling that the team was able to build a successful robot with as few problems as we could get away with. just something I can go back and congratulate the team on for a job well done. Considering that about half of our team is graduating this year, I want to leave the rest with a feeling like they can continue to be successful in coming years. |
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Oh. Well, we've got a few graduating seniors, too, and many were subteam/team heads, so I can relate to that. But I'm just a sophomore, so I've got 2 years left. Good luck with whatever you do after this. We're going to the Nationals, because we signed up, so we've still got one more adventure left before the team changes.
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Despite some major difficulties with getting our robot to operate correctly, I personally had a lot of fun and learned a lot this year. I especially want to thank all of the teams that took the time to help us out, it really is appreciated.
It's a shame I didn't get involved in the FRC earlier, this year was such a blast. Hopefully team 1820 will take what we learned and become a real competitor next time around :) |
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Hey all. Just got off a 4 hour bus back in NJ.
I am so happy for the team. We last won a championship in 2000, so it was great to finally win one again. I had to come back from college to finally get a championship under the belt and it was a lot of fun. The drive team did an amazing job coming from behind in the quarter finals, and dealing with the yellow card. I would say we improved after the card came out. The scouting team also gets a big high five, we fill 2, 3 inch binders with scouting info, plus several databases with information. Its truly an amazing site to behold in action. The pit crew did great getting the robot ready for every match, and thankfully we had no major technical or software problems. Congratulations to our alliance partners 75, and 203. It was a lot of fun working together. I am going to England next year for a semester so I won't get to work with my team, or be at Annapolis, so it felt great to see it live. |
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congrats to the 293, 75 and 203:)
That being said, had our robot hit the ramp all of 1.5 inches to more left we would have been on for another 30pts and victorious in the 1 vs 8 third match. Instead we fell over and lost by two. :mad: O well, stuff happens.:cool: Well played regional every one:) |
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Congrats to the winners, and thanks to everyone who helped make this regional as amazing as we've come to expect it to be. Despite some not so great weather and a near epidemic of teams getting sick (poor Buzz had half their members missing today, including a driver).
Thanks to 836 for picking us and to 204 for playing defense. If it hadn't been for those radio issues in the quarters, who knows how far we could have gone? I also want to add my congratulations to team 1727 for winning the Chairman's Award. They are a truely impressive and inspirational team. I wonder how many other second year teams can say they've won a Chairman's Award. It was well deserved. Good luck to all who are representing the regional in Atlanta, and I hope to see you all back next year at Chesapeake! |
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If any of the British teams are in the London area I would love to help them during my semester abroad. 2199 you had a very well fought match and everyone on our scouting team agreed you guys were one of the best rookie ringer scorers at the regional. |
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I just want to offer a big warm hug to all the teams that were struggling with adversity over the past three days. You all battled weather, sickness, bad luck, exhaustion, and a multitude of other things. And most importantly, you held your heads high. Personally, I was contemplating not coming on saturday because I felt pretty sick. But when I thought of how much you guys had overcome over the prior two days, I knew there was no way I was going to miss it. I'm so glad I made it.
Big congratulations to 293, 203, and especially 75- chairman's award winners at Trenton and now Chesapeake champs, mighty impressive guys. Also thanks to Daisy and Lenny. We enjoyed chanting for you, and I feel incredibly lucky to have met you all. Finally, a heart-felt thank you to everyone who has inspired us. It's incredibly fun to go to Annapolis, in fact it feels almost like a second home for us. So thank you to Jenny Beatty and all the other chesapeake volunteers and judges. I am definately making it back from college next year to see you all. |
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I have to say one thing I noticed in between 612's trip from VCU to Chesapeake is the very large drop in ramp bots and ramp tries from week 1 to week 3. VCU had a ramp bot (often capable of lifting 2 bots 12+ inches) in almost every match, chesapeake had much less of that variety (sometimes with ramps that lift one bot)
The finals were also decided by pure rack and not ramp, unlike VCU's massive ramps and lifters that decided the win in almost every playoff match. Very interesting to see the different styles of play, can't wait to see what's at Championships. |
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Annapolis had to be the most fun regional I've ever been to. Every team was nice and helpful, and the robots were awesome. The finals were very exciting to watch especially all the wins for the underdog teams. Congrats to 293, 203, and 75 the Chesapeake regional champs, and thanks to Daisy and Lenny for the great alliance.
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Chesapeake was a lot of fun! All of the teams were super nice and fun to play with. The volunteers were tireless and the pit divas never ran out of energy. The entire event ran like clockwork; lunch never had to be reduced or eliminated to make up for lost time. Even the weather conditions on Friday and Saturday couldn't bring it down. Our team went from being in 38th place at VCU to becoming finalists at Chesapeake! Congrats to 293, 203, and 75 for kicking our butts in the last two matches; you guys were amazing!:D
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On behalf of Team 75, I'd like to thank every single team at the 2007Chesapeake Regional. You were all such amazing people, and you made my experience at this competition truly unforgettable.
Congratulations to 1748, 339, 612, and thank you for an incredible final match during the competition. Your robots were all outstanding. Congratulations to 1727 on their Chairman's Award and to 768 for their EI Award. You both deserve these awards so much and you are amazing teams. Also, Congrats to 836 for their award, as well as to the two Rookie teams who won awards and who did a fantastic job at the regional. Finally, thank you teams 293 and 203. You were both the best alliance partners that anybody could ever ask for. I can't wait to see you all in Atlanta! |
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Congrats to teams 293, 75, and 203 on your regional win!
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