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themagic8ball 05-04-2007 15:54

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by proegssilb (Post 612350)
I guess unless someone complains quickly, I'll work on CSV.
magic8ball, can you get me an html dump of the match form? You guys did a real good job with designing a hard-to-mess with login system, but I locked myself out...
EDIT: And the pit form, while you're at it.

Are you talking about the data collection form? If so I'll need to upload that. Currently I am at work and can't do that :).

I was thinking about just exporting the data after it is compiled (IE total spoilers, total ringers, matches recorded). But if you would like to do data for every match I'd be willing to get you a SQL dump (just a few rows).

I'll PM you with a username and password for the MARRS Demo that has unlimited access.

tjcasser 05-04-2007 16:04

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by themagic8ball (Post 612539)
I was thinking about just exporting the data after it is compiled (IE total spoilers, total ringers, matches recorded). But if you would like to do data for every match I'd be willing to get you a SQL dump (just a few rows).

Actually, I took a look at the dump generated by mysqldump that was kindly passed to me by our partner in crime here. ;) I think part of the question is what do you need in the CSV to generate your stats, to make your program as effective as possible with the imported data? (Fair's fair, right? :))

Insofar as the 768 scouting program, my preference would also include a little more of the match data such as the scoring on the rack, but that's the basic gist of what we'd need for our purposes. Some of the fields, such as what I believe are strategy rating fields in the dump, aren't perhaps as portable since they're a bit more subjective.

(I feel for you about being at work, as I'm at my job too...)

proegssilb 05-04-2007 16:26

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by tjcasser (Post 612551)
Actually, I took a look at the dump generated by mysqldump that was kindly passed to me by our partner in crime here. ;) I think part of the question is what do you need in the CSV to generate your stats, to make your program as effective as possible with the imported data? (Fair's fair, right? :))

Insofar as the 768 scouting program, my preference would also include a little more of the match data such as the scoring on the rack, but that's the basic gist of what we'd need for our purposes. Some of the fields, such as what I believe are strategy rating fields in the dump, aren't perhaps as portable since they're a bit more subjective.

(I feel for you about being at work, as I'm at my job too...)

(Sorry, I'm on Spring break and jobless...)
tjcasser, as I seem to be missing part of the picture on your app, I'll e-mail you an HTML dump of the forms provided in MARRS, unless magic8ball prefers an alternative... That should give you an idea of what MARRS likes to have. I'd love to be able to develop the format myself, but I seem to be missing part of the picture...

proegssilb 06-04-2007 18:53

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
No one has offered to cover Galileo. My team is in Archimedes, so I probably shouldn't volunteer them for that unless I have to. Anyone in Galileo able to help?

themagic8ball 06-04-2007 19:55

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
I think we need Curie too?

proegssilb 06-04-2007 20:50

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by themagic8ball (Post 613448)
I think we need Curie too?

David from 1647 said his team would cover Curie, using 768's system. Not that they'd turn down help...

Faith 06-04-2007 22:11

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by proegssilb (Post 613428)
No one has offered to cover Galileo. My team is in Archimedes, so I probably shouldn't volunteer them for that unless I have to. Anyone in Galileo able to help?

My team might be (should be) able to help out for Galileo. We plan on scouting, anyway... Our current system consists of a lot of paper and an excel spread sheet (which I'm currently converting to Access) - it works for us, and I'm not sure we have enough computers we can bring to the competition for an entirely computer-based system...

themagic8ball 06-04-2007 23:04

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I will also be making MARRS teamlists available for download in CSV format for interested teams so that they may see some of our comparative stats in Excel and have sorting without having to login to MARRS. I plan to make a bunch of copies Friday night on CD (may post on CD as well) for interested teams.

proegssilb 07-04-2007 00:17

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
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Originally Posted by Plooshiska (Post 613521)
My team might be (should be) able to help out for Galileo. We plan on scouting, anyway... Our current system consists of a lot of paper and an excel spread sheet (which I'm currently converting to Access) - it works for us, and I'm not sure we have enough computers we can bring to the competition for an entirely computer-based system...

Could you guys work with this for the paper forms?
http://www.team537.com/MARRS/MatchDataSheet.pdf
I was hoping for teams that were already planning on using MARRS or 768's app (much easier data sharing), but if you use paper forms they can work with, that should work just as well (Anybody want to correct me?).

tjcasser 07-04-2007 13:04

Re: Scouting Cooperation @ Nationals '07
 
768's Scouting App will also have CSVs available to load the teams - I'm just finishing up the routines to load them as we speak. (The format's slightly different than the ones we'd used previously.)

For anyone who doesn't have one of the programs loaded before the Championships - I'll have a copy of the 768 app compiled for stand-alone use (and a Java runtime for installation if someone needs it) on a USB key over at the Archimedes practice field that I'll be able to help load onto laptops if anyone should like. :) I'll be easy to find - I'll be wearing a volunteer shirt and my 2007 Maryland Mentor badge with my name on it.


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