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These are our new and improved wings. We will be adding two each anti-backing devices and a strip of rubber around the perimeter at the top of the angle.
This should keep any robot planted on our wings.

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Those are beautiful! I have never actually seen a closeup of the ramps until now. Hope to see them soon. :)

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Are those made out of anodized aluminum?

....and that might be more rivets than our 2006 bot contained. Wow.

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How much does each weigh?

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Not more than their 2006 (or 2005) bot though :p
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/23151
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/20393

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Where are you working on those wings?
It looks like you are in a shop...
Isn't it against the rules of FIRST to make improvements to the parts you make in between competitions?

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I hate to sound like this.
but this is against the rules, this is not fair, my team thought of this problem during build season and implementing those new platforms gives you a significant advantage of being able to improve your robot after competition.

to site my source

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That rule is for the windows between shiping and the first regionals. You are allowed to fabricate upgrade parts in the windows durring the regional time period.

I don't have my rules with me. Can someone else quote it please.

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while what you are saying may be correct, this picture appears to be a replacement part. it says in the caption of the photo that

"We will be adding two each anti-backing devices and a strip of rubber around the perimeter at the top of the angle."

if they don't do this until the competition then it would be perfectly legal, assuming that these are just replacement parts.

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Actually they are not replacement parts, if you look they removed a couple of the angled sides from the platform and replaced them with a strait side. it's not replacement part, it's a different part.

But it does not matter, I should have read farther down on the rules. Either way it took me reading this 3 times to completely understand it.

As I understand this rule, teams that win in the first week regional and then go to nationals have a total of 50 hours that they are allowed to build UPGRADE parts for their robot, is that accurate?
I still think this is unfair.
now all I have to ask is how much does each platform weigh?

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That being said. As long as they are less than 25 pounds, it's legal.

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These wings were manufactured during three, 5 hour, fix-it windows. Two during one week after a regional and one after another regional week. This was perfectly legal per this rule:
<R22> During the “FIX-IT WINDOW” following each Regional Competition weekend: During this period, all teams (not just those teams attending a Regional Competition) may utilize one or two 5-hour FIX-IT-WINDOWS to manufacture SPARE, REPLACEMENT and UPGRADE PARTS and develop software for their ROBOT at their home facility (not at the competition
site). The timing of these “FIX-IT WINDOWS” is at the discretion of the team, but all work must be completed between the opening of the Competition (at 8:30 am on the Thursday of the Competition weekend) and 8:30 am on the Thursday following the Competition weekend.

They are made of .032" T6 6061 aluminum. Very light and very strong. The holes are flanged upward to minimize tearing.

About 15 pounds. That's 2 pounds lighter than the original

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so you may only replace 1 at competition

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alright,
I'm pulling my nose out of this one.
but I hope that gracious professionalism kicks in and the rules of FIRST are followed here.

I wont follow up on this anymore, but as a great mentor just told me three seconds ago,
If they want to win that bad, let 'em

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Please do not use "Gracious Prefessionalism" against us. We follow the rules. One wing is complete at 15 pounds. The other wing is not complete, and both wings together add up to be below the 25 pound limit.

Here is what we are doing. When we get there we will swap one wing. The old win that is taken off will be taken apart and the spars which are the two arms that attach to our robot will be taken out. They will then be put into the 2nd new wing. The 2nd new wing therefore is not fully assembled and we do not have all the parts made for it. We are using old parts off the robot to make the new second wing.

Therefore we are withing the rules and under the weight limit especially since we did it within the 5 hour work windows allowed. If you have any questions about that you can contact me. I do not appreciate being accused of cheating, accusing a team of such is not being very "Gracious" or "Professional" now is it?

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I like these bad boys! Do you still trust your daughters on them? If so, I'd think robots will do just fine.

Question. what if my wheels get stuck in the holes?

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Most wheels will not get stuck in the holes. If you have casters they may run a chance of getting stuck. In which case i don't know what to say. But we designed this so most robots can get on our wings and have plenty of traction to stay on the wings. Of course there are always design flaws... and i guess that could be considered one. But honestly your robot wheel is going to have to be awfully small to get caught in one of those.

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If you are in Newton, Just roll up onto 1885's. Nice and flat and wide, with no holes to stub your toe upon. ;-)

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If you get stuck, you have no chance of falling off, now do you? Even if you aren't fully on you can still be lifted. :cool:

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Wayne,
why are these called 'angel wings'?
Jane

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Because they are 'Holey' :D :D :D :rolleyes:

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Wow... lol.... now that is funny, lol

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I thought Wayne was going to say 'because they give you a lift'.

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lol, wow, i guess hearing jokes like these is another benefit of having a lifting bot.

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We are trying to get Red Bull to sponsor us :rolleyes:

"Red Bull, it gives you wings"

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See everyone.... see what I have to put up with for a 12 hour bus ride to Atlanta:D and a whole entire 6 week build season:D :p . LOL that was kinda funny though.

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I could have said we are getting the Detroit NHL hockey team to sponsor us.
You know? The Red Wings :D :D :D :rolleyes:

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I think I've shook my head more times reading this thread than I have in a 3 minute time span, ever.

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I really like this robot, I think you guys will make friends easily in Archimedes. This robot is on my check list (close to the top too)

I also think you need some Hot Sauce for your Wings. Some rings would probably suit very nicely on the side.

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Well I will be the pit guy so i look forward to seeing you. There will be a couple other students with me, so I know we can answer any questions you may have.

I have to say this thread is the first one to make me laugh in a few weeks.

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This is my first year and I get to look forward to a bus ride with Wayne and Larry :yikes: !!!!!

I would love to be there in our pits, but I'll be busy running around with the robot to drive (and in the hot hat too, makes me wish it would be a little cold there).:p

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Seth my man I bet you cant wait till IRI in middle of July to wear are 1501 gear!!!:D :D :D

And yea 1501 is leaving tomorrow night for a 12 hour trip to atlanta!!!WOO

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Goober!, stay calm on the bus, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!! We're only going to Atlanta for a National Competition =).

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its Championship not National

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Good Point