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http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics/

Good Luck!

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Anyone else have no audio? Im watching the real media stream for curie.

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Gal is working fine!

but the FVC field cast isn't working. They should be the only ones playign at the moment untill 9:30am.

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I'm the same on both notes.. no sounds, no vex.

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same. I have all the computers in my house hooked up to Curie field at the moment, and nothing is working sound wise...

(I'm SUPPOSED to be in Atlanta. But then I got sick... I miss my team!)

Also, this is through windows media player...cause real player hates Vista with a passion. I installed real player and got the blue screen of death the moment it was installed XD)

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Is there a problem with the audio feed?
I am watching Newton and there is no aduio on both the Real Media and Windows Media Player feeds.

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Boo, they are running practice matches on Gal but no fed of it, just the same videos over and over again.

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Keeper scored on Archemedes! I can't get the Windows Media Player feed though, just RealPlayer.

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There just seems to be many problems with the webcasts overall. I wonder whats up. Some have audio, but the ones with audio dont have match video.

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Let's just hope this is all fixed by tomorrow.

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Well Gal had fed of the field then swtiched back to videos, at that point there was no audio. what's with all these problems...

edit/ now back to field, and now audio. about time.

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Curie field is still having problems with sound. I hate how it's so far away from the field...

My team's bot has what seems to be a somewhat common design for robots with ramps, so it's hard to see.

I tried calling a couple of mentors and team members to see if they have the match list... but I can't get ahold of them.

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I have Galileo up with real, but it "communicates" every few seconds. My Internet connection is not slow either. Also, the video quality goes from very good quality to very poor.


Edit: More audio problems...

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Glad to see Gali up and going now. Like said earlier, its hard to see with just the overhead cam.

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Galileo is apparently live and working properly (practice match 5 just ended). I hear audio, and it will be providing my music all day.

Loving the overhead camera: I don't really like the cameraman view, because quite often, they miss action on the other end of the field*. Hope they keep it this way for the real action tomorrow.

*Examples:
-With a zoomed-in view, you can only ever see one team ramping. At GTR, quite often you'd hear the announcer scream about rampings on the other side of the field, but only see the other team
-You can generally only see one team scoring at a time. Compression artifacts from the ramp swinging and the close-by robot often make the far side of the rack unviewable.

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Hey! Sound on Curie is starting to sputter a bit for me. That's nice.

Edit: It's on now! It's nice being able to hear the stuff going on.

I finally left a message for my main mentor so that she can possibly give me the match schedule so I don't need to attach my face to the computer screen to see the robots.

The overhead cam is pretty bad though, especially when they put the scoring up and it covers the bottom part of the field (I know it's not a big deal, but it does bother me a bit).

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The real test for me will come tomorrow around 1 when I hook this all up to my 32" LCD HDTV. 17" just isn't going to do it for me during the matches!

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I think it'd be nice if one year a team got 4 consumer 1080p cameras, locked them into overhead view, and afterwards distributed a bunch of gorgeous 720p or 1080p match videos via bit torrent. With 1080p resolution (1920x1080), a robot would, instead of being 45x45 pixels like it is on this webcast, be approximately 300x300 pixels. It would pretty much be the same as having the cameraman having the camera right up next to the robot, except you'd have all 6 on screen. As far as costs are concerned, a $1,500 camera isn't that bad when you're paying $10,000 for trip costs and entry fees.

Edit: Ok, so that camera can 6mbps HD video. This means that a single match (assuming a 2m 30s average) would be 900 megaBITS, or 112mb. An entire regional would, depending on the regional, be just 13gb. That's not that bad.

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Yes! Someone is fixing Curie's camera! The audio is getting better too!

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I was just able to see buzz on the webcast! That was timely because I now have to go take a physics mid-term.

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Galileo looks fine to me, other than the fact the match I'm watching only has one robot on the field. :ahh:

Wetzel

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Just checked all fields work with sound except Newton. And thats the field I want to watch. O well hope there is sound soon.

Edit Newton now has sound which means all fields are working.

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Audio on Galileo is far, far, out of sync. I'm watching the middle of the teleoperated period in a match, and I'm hearing the autonomous start/end sounds.

Using windows media here.

Edit: appears to be good now.

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Gal has nothing for me now.

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Curie seems to be doing pretty good for me now =D

The only thing is the overhead camera. Hopefully it's much better tomorrow for that.

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GRR! I just saw 1126 leave the field. the links on the NASA site didn't work untill they refreshed thier site. that's crap.

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What do people think of the commercials? I like them...one step closer to being primetime.

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I'm not really quite sure what to think of the commercials at this point in time...

It's killing me to not be there though >.< I was actually all set to go Tuesday (our team left early Wednesday morning). And then I got sick. So it feels like my health just ripped away my last chance to be in Atlanta as a senior.

Thank god for webcasts, right?

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What is with the NASA stuff now? It's not lunch time i want to see matches not inside a space shuttle...

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yeeah... the commercials that keep coming on make me think that it's the lunch break... but it's not.

It's getting a bit annoying. And psyching me out.

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I can't even click on anything that gives me feed.

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I'm having trouble seeing the webcasts. When it lets me actually open it I have some sound but no video. I'll keep trying different ways to watch it but I would appreciate it if people could tell me what's going on. PM me or post here please: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=56796 Thanks!

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-Try rebooting.

-Try a different media player. Real Alternative is a codec that lets you play the Real stream in something that isn't RealNetworks official player. Just install it, no fancy stuff required. If you also hate the Apple Quicktime player for windows, you can find quicktime alternative as well.

-Try pressing stop on the media player, then pressing play again. This might help, though it only ever has helped me when I already had video

Those are all the ideas I have.

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I am having the same problem using Camino in OS X.

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Here are all the stream links for the various fields (including VEX and lego league). These are the .ram and .asx files that tell the media player where to find the actual stream, hopefully you'll be able to open these.

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Tried rebooting...all I got was no sound and video. But thevideo isn't of the matches its of the animations of teams in each respective division. Is this supposed to be happening?

Real Alternative is being really annoying but I'm trying to get it to cooperate.

When I press stop then play, I get the 2006 matches (some of them). Wierd, No?
Thanks for the help, I'll Keep Trying.

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It was lunch so no matches were going on, there are matches now.

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At least for galileo, there was still video though (sponsor ads and blurbs), so it shouldn't have been a black screen.

2056-1057-45 just scored 76-0. I know Cormier was looking for that.

Edit: VEX is soooo cool. The ability to rebuild your robot in a week just blows my mind. I would kill for an adult-aimed version of that.

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The Curie webcast has been holding solid at least since it got all situated... my main complaint is still the overhead thing (I know that can't be nessacarily changed). Curie's been doing something a bit like Archimedes for like... 5 seconds at a time.

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I have foudn this out poeple:

The NASA site has to be refreshed by them before the links work again, let them refresh it and then try the links, it'll work. I noticed that awhile back.

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The Curie link is working for me, looks like a solid webcast. Isn't practice day exciting :p. A few too many commercials this year thou...

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I haven't seen a single commercial. Is Galileo special in this respect?

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I've got both Windows Media Player and Real Player working for the webcasts, but I can't get VLC to play any of the streams. That's unfortunate, because I was hoping to run all of the streams at once...:p

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... lucky! XD

Maybe Galileo really is that special.

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XD I would if I could. But realplayer hates on my new computer. I actually have 3 of them open on 2 computers right now. Archimedes and Newton on my mom's, and Curie on mine (since I'm here more obviously)

I picked Archimedes because the other two Holland area teams are there (85 and 107).

141 and 74 (The other two HA teams) are both in Curie, as well as 2054, the rookie team my team bussed down and all that. It's nice to have them all in one field.

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Thanks much - I realized that, once again, I had neglected [avoided] installing WMP. Those files were very helpful though!

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Case in point: near the end of a match with the one team there that I know, they cut to the close-in rack camera. Of course, this caused me to totally miss rampings on both ends of the field. :mad:

In the match in question (practice 34 part 2), the rack only had 3 unscored legs, with a full field of robots. I think the best I'd seen in any regional I attended was 19, and that's been beaten already IN PRACTICE. Spoilers might finally be worth throwing out now.

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Finally got the Galileo Webcast to work (Still no sound though)!:D I still don't know what the problem was though. Too bad I missed most of the first day.

I'm watching match 35 right now. Go 229!

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Um, I've seen team 330 out on Curie for quite a few matches.
Isn't that not allowed?

On another note, I think I hear Sir Charles!:D

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I know that 195 gave 330 their spot in the most recent match due to technical issues. I don’t know if it was a trade for another practice match time or what. I feel bad for my old team though, broke in their first match, and haven’t been able to show their stuff yet; oh well....it happens...

And yes...im happy to hear Sir Charles too!

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Is there any particular reason why all of the matches are being played twice?

Just something that I noticed

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Practice matches always have two games per practice match.

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I think they just having first day jitters... I've often flipped over the feed being less than perfect on practice day... then learned that the folks doing the webcast usually are only operating with a skeleton crew. Usually by the end of the day they have the bugs out of the system and tomorrow everyone will be there.

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Any one not getting anything from the REAL feeds?

Edit: Still no audio or video on the Curie REAL stream... :(

Edit: Poor audio and video on Curie WMP Stream too...

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Err... no. It's opening ceremonies now on Einstein. Nothing is going on anywhere else >.>

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I thought the webcats were bad yesterday morning....but they are worse today...

Edit: I just went through all the feeds. No REAL streams are working and the only quality WM stream is Newton.

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I'm good with Curie. I like being able to see this close to the field. Yesterday I had to glue my face to the screen to see my team. I did see Trent, who I could tell because of how he walks, and I could see David because of his fro... but that's about it XD... Our bot has what seems to be a somewhat common design for hybrid ramp/scorer bots, so I needed to look hard yesterday to see where my team was.

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All of the WM feeds buffer every five seconds for me, except for Newton.

REAL feed on Curie is up! :)

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and the real feed on Curie makes me feel happy ^_^

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The Archimedes emcee reminds me of Howard Dean in Iowa :D

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Curie has Dave for the emcee. =P Fun stuff.

(Though, 67 is on Curie, so therefore Dave is there XD)

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IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY HAVE SPLIT SCREENS TO SHOW RAMPING ACTION ON BOTH ENDS!!!!!!
:ahh:

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175 just scored in auto and I couldn't see it because they were focusing on the other end. It was tragic.

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That's not always true...he just told us 2 or 3 days ago, and he's MCed other fields and other regionals (that we're not at) before. He does like to be where we are, though.

Are they rotating the MCs/announcers, or do they just have guest people on Curie right now? Dave was on this morning with Sir Charles, but neither of them are doing it right now.

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ahh. well, thanks for clearing that up =D It just seems that at whatever regional or field we may be at at nationals with your team, Dave is there. I'm going off all the regionals I've been to in the past 4 years XD

He might be taking a break or something right now >.>

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Yeah, Dave tends to take a long relaxed lunch break to give other people a chance to MC.

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Does he? That would explain it then =P

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WHY isn't Gal stats being updated since 3:36!?

this is not usual...

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I wouldn't know ^.^;; sorry. Curie's being updated a lot >.> I'm still waiting to see how far that loss brought us down. Cause we went up... 40 spots after our last win or so because of how many teams have the same win and loss thing.

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I discovered the hard way today that our school computers can occasionally handle the webcasts, but only *barely*, and usually can't manage to keep it playing for more than a few seconds. Ah, well; I've got it up now that I'm home. Thank goodness for DSL. :)

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Now it's Curie's turn to experience what Alex was talking about up there.

They haven't been updated since 3:54 XD

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Hmm, Archamedies doesn't appear to be updating either.

Question, when do they allow us to watch past matches? I didnt get up at 3am and would like to watch some of the starting matches. =D

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Whenever other teams such as the CircuitRunners or the Blue Alliance get around to uploading them, which can be anywhere from days to weeks after the event.

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Right, so I'm hearing, "Get up at 3am tomorrow." Pity. I'll check those websites and others at periodic intervals just in case. Thankies!

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Anybody watching the web cast tired of watching commercials instead of the teams? I wanted to see my kids setting up not the same old :( .
Doug W

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Newton wasn't doing that when I was watching it earlier, but Archemedes does seem to have commercials in between each match. Admittedly, they're much better than the commercials on TV, but I'd also like to watch teams setting up. It's a good way to pick out what robot belongs with what team when you're watching the webcast.

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Galileo hasn't had any commercials yet (except at Lunch). Although I have heard from several people about Archmedies and the commercials. I know that it isn't the same but they have the standings and results posted here:http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc/content.aspx?id=432&menu_id=80&terms=championship& rawsearchtype=1&fragment=false&SearchType=AndWords.

Also Try refreshing the webcast every once in a while. That has worked for me in the past.

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I'm pretty tired of it too... I want to see my team setup...

Curie is being horrible with commercials.

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On Curie, if there is not a match or the score posted there are commercials, the same ones played over and over. I would rather see my kids setting up the robot or there team in the stands cheering for them. Most of the time they don't make it back to the match before announcing the teams and you miss seeing the kids all together.

jw

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Well all the stats have been updated except for Gal!

man, i want to see how far SparX fell from 1st since they lost the very last match.

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I was watching the Archemedes webcast while doing physics with my friend this morning. When Buzz's match, match 22 started playing I stopped to watch. About half way through the match I realized that my friend was watching really intently. After the match ended she said "Wow! That was awesome!" I though that was pretty neat, because she had never seen a FIRST match before.

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Trust me, I'm just as tired of seeing them as you are (even in person).

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Well, after the first day of the 2007 FIRST Championship, my alma mater team, 34 The Rockets, is ranked... 34 :cool: out of 86 robots in Curie.

Also, there's nothing coincidental about 1511 Rolling Thunder being 19 ;) out of 86 robots in Newton. Glad to see them on the rise.

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I found the commercials to be rather silly. They cut in and out of them randomly, sometimes not showing the start of the match or the announcing of the teams. The commercials should be taken off.

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Most of the time the sound was still comming through from the match, I didnt understand half of them. I hope they don't fix the sound, it might interupt my dancing! Afterall, got to keep in spirt even if your not there in the flesh. =D

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i dont know why but i cant watch the real player version and the wmp version.
anybody have any idea how to watch it. it just says connecting.. and it just gives me this error:

Windows Media Player cannot play any items in the playlist. To find information about the problem, click the Now Playing tab, and then click the icon next to each file in the List pane.

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I had something similar happen with a few of my classmates when I was watching the webcast with a teammate this morning in precalc. A few of them came over to watch, but none really stayed that long. The lack of sound probably didn't help much, the computer had no speakers.

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The public agenda says opening ceremonies were supposed to start at 8:30, but they're still playing the commercials over and over again. :( I wonder what's up?

EDIT: Nevermind, the matches are up now. :)

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Well, at least they came over to see what was going on =D That's pretty cool.

The only ones here that are watching it are me, my grandma (She's VERY impressed by what we build in 6 weeks, and how we act and all that), and my mom (Who is equally impressed).

Last year, when I was on drive team and we were in the finals at the midwest, my grandpa had a chance to watch the webcast. According to my mom, he was getting into it, thought it was amazing, and extremely proud of his granddaughter for being involved in something THIS cool =D (Unfortunatly, he passed away a week after he got to see me at the Midwest).

But I think it's pretty cool that so many other people think this is amazing. Webcasts are awesome because they can provide something of this experience to those who cannot be at the events.

Thank god for the webcast of the championships =D

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Where is the SOUND! We need sound on Curie!

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I came back from my shower to see no webcast, because Curie disconnected.
Now, loading it back, there's no sound, and it's very choppy.

WE NEED SOUND BEFORE ALLIANCE SELECTIONS!

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I know :eek:

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Is Curie the only one with this problem?

Edit: Curie is the only one having this problem, I just checked all of them.

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Galileo has sound.

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yeah Curie's webcast opens in frames, doesn't play, you just get the initial picture

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Arcamedies has sound... and were those teams just attacking the announcer? I need a bigger picture!

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It's kinda annoying >.< I hope they get it figured out before alliance selections. Team 141 still has a chance as does every other team in the division.

So what if we're ranked... 46th at the time (I think).

If teams have done their scouting, they'll go by scouting, not by ranks.

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In case the NASA guys are reading this, the Curie WMP stream is running at about 4.9 frames per second, with no sound.

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I'm rooting for 1305 and 1114 :)

(gurr webcast :D lol mine is 0 fps)

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I tried RealPlayer as well, and it's doing the same thing as WMP.