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cziggy343 17-04-2007 18:38

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
well, going back to the lists, in curie:

16
34
86
180
343
357
716

i could probably think of more. there were lots of amazing robots in curie

veggie 17-04-2007 18:41

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Out of Curie - 343, 141, 648, 16

I was extremely surprised when i learned 103 wasn't picked, especially since my team (1155) lost to them in jersey.
I was also surprised by the draft order in Curie, some teams definitely were steals (i expected 234 and 469 to be drafted much earlier. I was also hoping for a 330-1114 alliance, but oh well)

4throck 17-04-2007 19:18

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
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Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 618583)
From Curie 180 was a surprise. We had the pleasure to play with them the final qualification match. They scored 3 (I think) ringers and we were able to climb their huge ramps for 30 pts. They were also great alliance partners. I don't remember exactly our list of teams for picking, but if it wasn't for 48 dropping so far (I was very surprised, yet very happy that they did) there was a good chance we would have picked them.

We played with you in that match too, and we scored 5 ringers. And you did pick our opponents from that match.

That is a not so subtle intro into who I think was one of the better teams left out of finals: Us. Aside from the 2 matches where we were crippled by mechanical problems, we scored five rings in four matches and four rings in one. I understand that we are a relatively unknown team, and that our robot wasn't visibly impressive (okay, it looks kind of stupid, see these pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/66218484@N00/406328583/ ), but still, we were scoring more than other offensive bots that were selected. Someone had to recognize us, as after the third match we had at least one defensive bot on us for the majority of the time.

This might all seem like I am being bitter (and I am, a little), but the reception we got from other teams was a little insulting. The question I was asked most often was why we had pink pool noodles on the top of our robot. One scout asked me the following question, verbatim: "So why do you have omniwheels? Could you not afford mecs?". The rest of the conversation went like this, the kid sneering at me, asking why we used part x instead of part y, all the time implying that our robot looked terrible and was obviously not professionally made. Our drivers were ignored when they tried to strategize with our alliance members.

So, just to say it: Stop judging based on appearances. It shouldn't have to be said, but the reaction our robot got was proof of this. Our robot was built mostly out of spare parts lying around our shop, and it shows, but people didn't have to be as dismissive as they were about our robot. I don't like being this unhumble or unsubtle, but the reaction we got at championships was disappointing to say the least.

teenmisfit 17-04-2007 19:27

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Originally Posted by MasterChief 573 (Post 618830)
NO WAY! I did the same thing, about 45 minutes before alliance selections I went to talk to the Da Bears and I thought we had an understanding. We knew that they were planning on making 1038 their first round pick, but because of our ability to score consistently we believed that we'd be their second pick. Also I knew that 1038 and our team had a mutual desire to work together at the competition. The way I understood it was that if after talking to their drivers they believed that we could climb their ramps (they had never heard of meccanum wheels and were kinda uncertain) we would be their second round pick. Now I see I was wrong, I could sure go for an explanation right about now. ps They never asked us for money.

haha i was just disappointed in their unprofessionality... we were top seed at our regional (GSR) and i listened and talked to all the teams that wanted a chance. I never shunned or acted immature and my dad happened to be walking by and heard the money comment.. it was funny..

(granted i have my immature moments elsewhere...)

Athleticgirl389 17-04-2007 19:40

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Originally Posted by slickguy2007 (Post 618331)
Team 103 not making finals made me stop. I watched their matches and I saw their division. They really deserved to get picked. I am confident in saying that I could put together a great alliance with the teams not picked in Galileo that could have possibly even made it onto Einstein.

Team 75 was another surprise. We had the pleasure of working with them in NJ and I have heard that they got even beastlier after that.

Don't worry guys... we still have Monty. :)

I have to agree with you here Aroon... especially Team 75. I was very shocked to hear they did not do as good as I thought. They were awesome on Thursday during practice...

And Team 103... they are an amazing robot and team. For them to not go on.. I was in complete shock as well.

I guess the championships bring out big shockers!!!!

As per Newton, other teams on my list:
75
271
358
316

John Wanninger 17-04-2007 20:47

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4throck (Post 618935)
We played with you in that match too, and we scored 5 ringers. And you did pick our opponents from that match.

Your robot and drivers were just amazing in that match. Delphi ELITE(48) was playing some tough defense on us, but your team(1418) and SPAM(180) really came through to get the win. Though I wasn't in on everything that went on in our selection process, I do know that you were definitely in our sights.
Quote:

So, just to say it: Stop judging based on appearances. It shouldn't have to be said, but the reaction our robot got was proof of this. Our robot was built mostly out of spare parts lying around our shop, and it shows
I think your robot looks great, it certainly impressed me, especially when I saw it stuffing all those rings on the rack! Your team should be very proud!

crafty 17-04-2007 20:50

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cziggy343 (Post 618879)
well, going back to the lists, in curie:

16
34
86
180
343
357
716

i could probably think of more. there were lots of amazing robots in curie

Thanks for the compliment. I was a little disappointed when we were not picked.

cziggy343 17-04-2007 20:54

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yeah, we were dissapointed to. it was the first time in MiM history that we didn't get picked or did the picking.

MasterChief 573 17-04-2007 20:54

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teenmisfit (Post 618945)
haha i was just disappointed in their unprofessionality... we were top seed at our regional (GSR) and i listened and talked to all the teams that wanted a chance. I never shunned or acted immature and my dad happened to be walking by and heard the money comment.. it was funny..

(granted i have my immature moments elsewhere...)

Yeah you guys had a great robot and we would've loved to work with you, now where is my explanation Bears?

XaulZan11 17-04-2007 21:01

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4throck (Post 618935)
We played with you in that match too, and we scored 5 ringers. And you did pick our opponents from that match.

To go along with what John Wanninger said, you guys were awsome that match and you were on the list of teams to be picked. We did feel that we wanted a defensive ramp as the third alliance partner to compliment two scorers. When 48, who we thought was the best defensive robot in the division, slipped to us, we had to take them.

Another team that I remember watching that didn't get picked was 86. I thought they were one of the best defenders there and had a nearly flawless ramp.

Beth Sweet 17-04-2007 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief 573 (Post 619038)
now where is my explanation Bears?

Bud, they don't owe you an explination. You were on their list, be glad of that. They have the right to pick whoever they want. They have to talk to a few teams, I know 65 talked to us, even though at the end, we were only 4th on their list. So be happy you made a list, and better luck next year

tomburr91 17-04-2007 21:12

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Ah well, I'm glad to see everyone else was as shocked at we were at 180. We had been picked so many years in a row that the concept of "marketing" really slipped all of our minds :-/. Having local 233 and 179 and 1902 all go to Einstein made up for it though.

MasterChief 573 17-04-2007 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Sweet (Post 619048)
Bud, they don't owe you an explination. You were on their list, be glad of that. They have the right to pick whoever they want. They have to talk to a few teams, I know 65 talked to us, even though at the end, we were only 4th on their list. So be happy you made a list, and better luck next year

Wait, you were in our division?

Beth Sweet 17-04-2007 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief 573 (Post 619070)
Wait, you were in our division?

No, we were in Galileo, that doesn't change the fact that they don't have any obligation to you if they choose to go with another team.

MasterChief 573 17-04-2007 21:32

Re: Best Teams to Be Left out of the Finals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Sweet (Post 619074)
No, we were in Galileo, that doesn't change the fact that they don't have any obligation to you if they choose to go with another team.

I know we're off that topic, I'm confused how you could have an understanding with a team in another division:confused:


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