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Nawaid Ladak 19-04-2007 15:03
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
A third place match for the regionals would be fine, and maybe the divisions itself, but making it on the big stage i don't really think so.

The final four doesn't have a 3rd place match

hey, maybe even change the format of elimination to a double elimination type setup, that would be something different altogether

Corey Balint 19-04-2007 15:18
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
If you did it for regionals and divisions, why wouldn't you do it on Einstein. It would be stupid to do regionals and divisions then not Einstein, where it "matters" the most.

dlavery 19-04-2007 15:35
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by robochick1319 (Post 619981)
However, I have to disagree with you in the fact that there is no prize for third place. Yes, there is no trophy or medal, but my team has gained much more than all that.

When we went back to school, everyone knew how well we had done and nobody cared that we didn't get another big trophy. We got to claim that we were national seminfinalists, winners of our division and the awards that we received were beyond any trophy. More people are interested and aware of FIRST and news stations are becoming more and more interested in our team.

Yes, there is no trophy for third or fourth in the semifinals, but frankly I don't care. We have won so much already, a consolation match isn't necessary.
That is exactly the right attitude to have! Your robot may have come in third place, but you have a first-place outlook on the competition!

-dave

Chris Fultz 19-04-2007 21:51
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Leave it as is, and let both alliances believe they were third place.

adding matches could put the finals at risk - a field element breaks, the scoring goes down, etc. etc.

yes, it would be exciting to watch, or play, but it is best as is.

Jeremiah Johnson 19-04-2007 22:38
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by robochick1319 (Post 619981)
I have to disagree with you (partly). I agree that their shouldn't be a consolation match. We lost and that's that. There doesn't seem to be a real point to having the consolation match between the two alliances

However, I have to disagree with you in the fact that there is no prize for third place. Yes, there is no trophy or medal, but my team has gained much more than all that.

When we went back to school, everyone knew how well we had done and nobody cared that we didn't get another big trophy. We got to claim that we were national seminfinalists, winners of our division and the awards that we received were beyond any trophy. More people are interested and aware of FIRST and news stations are becoming more and more interested in our team.

Yes, there is no trophy for third or fourth in the semifinals, but frankly I don't care. We have won so much already, a consolation match isn't necessary.

Quick shout out to our partners 173 and 1902, y'all were awesome!
(1902, give the pig a kiss for me!!)

We hope to see everyone again next year at nationals!
Nice outlook and I agree wholeheartedly. What I meant was that there was no hardware. There's always a "reward" to competing in FIRST, but not always an "award."

Cartwright 24-04-2007 23:29
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I think that it would be alright. It would make it more interesting, and it gives losers one more chance to prove themselves.

EricH 25-04-2007 14:02
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
There already is a consolation match. It's called the offseason. Teams gather together to compete again. All you have to do is get the six Einstein semi-finalists to the same event. At some point, make sure they are on the same alliances and run the match. (Possibly even during a field break.)

I really don't think it's all that important. I'd rather end the event on time. (Even if that means that "on time" is scheduled later.)

Squirrel Lord 25-04-2007 20:44
Re: Einstein Consolation Match
 
Maybe a consolation match is unneccessary, but what about a few rounds of play.
These would serve to fill up the time between the finals matches, not to rank the Semifinalists. These would also be highly competitive and wonderful examples of gameplay.

Ericgehrken 25-04-2007 21:18
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They do a consolation match at the Olympics for basketball, soccer, hockey, and many more, also the World Cup

Tim Delles 25-04-2007 21:20
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I would have loved to have seen this, especially last year....

Ericgehrken 25-04-2007 21:26
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This year 330 vs. 173
that would be amazing match
two amazing arms

Pavan Dave 26-04-2007 00:13
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...among other reasons such as delays.
I think you are wrong. There were long periods of time between EACH finals match and instead of two awards between each match they could have had one between the matches. Also if there was a "joke" or something like last year like the lights played out during this time it would be awesome. On top of that, they have GREAT public speakers that could keep us busy for a bit. I know that at Bayou there was one such speaker that I heard in the pits that made me drop the solder and hit the stands.

FIRST can ally with time and use that [good speakers, funny people, interesting videos] as AMMO against boredom for spectators...as Dave says, "ANYTHING is possible with FIRST!"

Pavan.


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