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Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 10:39

Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
I just love the autonomous modes and love watching other robots do it. So I thought I would commit our team to putting together a video of all the various teams doing their auto mode.

I already started this but realized how much work it was searching for all the videos and knew I would miss some good ones.

So to be part of this 2007 autonomous video please do the following:
  • All videos must be from official 2007 competitions, no practice videos.
  • All videos must be downloadable like from Soap videos. Give the URL.
  • Want both auto mode delivering the ringer and defending successfully from a bot delivering ringer (a hard task).
  • One video per team of one time auto mode, we will use only 15 seconds max at a time. So choose your best onetime video.
  • Exceptions:
  • Video of two or more teams a ringer on a side.
  • Exceptional or funny auto mode actions (like the dance one team did) or taking out a ref (wait that is not funny).
  • Give your team number, how auto mode is done (i.e. cmucam sonar or luck)
  • Give team stats on success rate etc.

I CAN NOT USE YOUTUBE VIDEOS. SO DON'T SEND ME THOSE URLS.

Not sure if we will use all the stats, but we will look at them and get our creative crew on it (well I haven't told them yet about this but once I push submit they will hear about it).

Looking forward to seeing these videos and seeing the whole thing together.

Jeremiah Johnson 26-04-2007 10:55

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here's several, choose from what you will, QF19 and F1-3 are my favorites:

QF19
QF1-3
SF1-1
SF1-2
F1-3

Elgin Clock 26-04-2007 13:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Can I just post the IP address of our robot and you can download it direct to see it?

JBotAlan 26-04-2007 13:09

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
I am not going to link to video because my auton consisted of this one line of code:

ARM_RecallPreset(7);

It unfolded the arm, saving us ~8 seconds of the teleop period. I hope to have something a tad sweeter for IRI, though.

JBot

Starke 26-04-2007 13:31

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Greater Rochester Robotics:

Team #340
Viewable
Download

Team #424
Viewable
Download


Both done with camera tracking

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 15:00

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JBotAlan (Post 622426)
I am not going to link to video because my auton consisted of this one line of code:

ARM_RecallPreset(7);

It unfolded the arm, saving us ~8 seconds of the teleop period. I hope to have something a tad sweeter for IRI, though.

JBot

Good move on your auto mode, but you are right that is not what we are looking for.

We did that one year and gives the team some advantage.

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 15:04

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 622423)
Can I just post the IP address of our robot and you can download it direct to see it?

Sure.

1629coalition 26-04-2007 15:07

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
This is 1629's auto-mode on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3bwTTS2lQ

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 15:26

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Budda648 (Post 622399)
Here's several, choose from what you will, QF19 and F1-3 are my favorites:

QF19
QF1-3
SF1-1
SF1-2
F1-3

I down loaded your two favorites. Both had sound only in windows media and didn't paly in quicktime. I pulled it into my media editor and it only had sound portion no video. Maybe it is a driver issue with me or problem with files.

Also be sure to say the method used to do auto mode (IE camera).

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 15:27

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starke340 (Post 622430)
Greater Rochester Robotics:

Team #340
Viewable
Download

Team #424
Viewable
Download


Both done with camera tracking

Both look good.

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 15:29

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1629coalition (Post 622453)
This is 1629's auto-mode on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3bwTTS2lQ

Good video, but I can not download youtube, at least I don't know how. Also be sure to tell me the method (IE camera).

Chris Marra 26-04-2007 15:50

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 622464)
I down loaded your two favorites. Both had sound only in windows media and didn't paly in quicktime. I pulled it into my media editor and it only had sound portion no video. Maybe it is a driver issue with me or problem with files.

Also be sure to say the method used to do auto mode (IE camera).

These particular videos, since they are Wildstang-provided and not by SOAP, are encoded with the xViD codec, which is technically superior to Windows Media. You can find a copy of it here: http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html

Kristian Calhoun 26-04-2007 16:08

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here is a autonomous compilation video that I recently made, showcasing our successful caps. In order, from the video's sequence, the matches are:

NJ Match 39 (This keeper actually didn't count, as it was supported by the stinger.
NJ Match 11
UTC Match 64 (One bot from each alliance capping, us on blue, 1124 on red.)
Galileo Match 22 (Nice close up shot.)
Galileo Match 82
Galileo Match 90* (1126 positions correctly, but knocks off their keeper as they back away. We cap ours on the same alliance.)
UTC Match 52**
NJ Finals 1*
NJ Finals 2***

Match 52 from Galileo, Match 52, and the NJ Finals are my favorites. (I'm still amazed at how we scored in match 52 after slamming into the rack and pulling up from beneath the spider.) As for our method, we used a single ultrasonic sensor to determine the proper distance from the base of the rack. During the matches at NJ, we used the CMUcam to align left/right towards the light, if it were in the view of the camera, and if not it would proceed to use the sonic sensor code. At UTC, we experienced camera troubles, and decided to just use the sonic sensors, and try our best to determine/guess where the spider leg would be after the rack had been moved. At championships, we solely used this method, and scored during 3 out of our 7 qualification matches.

The asterisks indicate my preference on which are the most entertaining to be used for the video, three stars being the highest.

PhilBot 26-04-2007 16:25

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 622466)
Good video, but I can not download youtube, at least I don't know how. Also be sure to tell me the method (IE camera).

Here is a direct link to Team 1629's Autonomous video (wmv) file.

http://www.gearsinc.org/images/auto_1629.wmv

These are from the elimination matches at Chesapeake.

Navigation is performed by camera and gyro.
The camera is hard-mounted to the robot (no pan/tilt).
It uses the Gyro to get withing viewing range, and then locks in with the camera. Both heading and range are provided by the camera.
The vertical car and rotational arm (two axes of motion) are positioned based on feedback from potentiometers.

Once we got the camera so it could see the lights, we mised one, and scored two.

In addition to a direct near-side score, we are working on scoring on the opposite side of the rack (for off season games).

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 16:43

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 622478)
Here is a autonomous compilation video that I recently made, showcasing our successful caps. In order, from the video's sequence, the matches are:

NJ Match 39 (This keeper actually didn't count, as it was supported by the stinger.
NJ Match 11
UTC Match 64 (One bot from each alliance capping, us on blue, 1124 on red.)
Galileo Match 22 (Nice close up shot.)
Galileo Match 82
Galileo Match 90* (1126 positions correctly, but knocks off their keeper as they back away. We cap ours on the same alliance.)
UTC Match 52**
NJ Finals 1*
NJ Finals 2***

SOAP is currently down, which has the video of UTC Match 64, and the NJ Final Rounds. If it is not back up soon, I could get you the videos by uploading them to a file sharing site or possibly our team website (AIM file transfers also work). Match 52 from Galileo, Match 52, and the NJ Finals are my favorites. (I'm still amazed at how we scored in match 52 after slamming into the rack and pulling up from beneath the spider.) As for our method, we used a single ultrasonic sensor to determine the proper distance from the base of the rack. During the matches at NJ, we used the CMUcam to align left/right towards the light, if it were in the view of the camera, and if not it would proceed to use the sonic sensor code. At UTC, we experienced camera troubles, and decided to just use the sonic sensors, and try our best to determine/guess where the spider leg would be after the rack had been moved. At championships, we solely used this method, and scored during 3 out of our 7 qualification matches.

The asterisks indicate my preference on which are the most entertaining to be used for the video, three stars being the highest.

Great compilation video. Tell me when the others are ready.

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 16:58

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Marra (Post 622472)
These particular videos, since they are Wildstang-provided and not by SOAP, are encoded with the xViD codec, which is technically superior to Windows Media. You can find a copy of it here: http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.15.0.html

I used to have that on my computer. But either way both media editors can not use this format. sorry.

DanDon 26-04-2007 20:19

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here is a link to a compilation on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Em65OpwCY

If you need it, I can put the file up on a filesharing site.

All navigation was done based on camera feedback, with a gyro used to stabilize the robot while scoring the keeper itself.

ldeffenb 26-04-2007 20:20

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
386's most successful autonomous modes can be seen on YouTube at

Archimedes Autonmous (all 14) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZxxcQADhM

Palmetto Q29 (double retry) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2BXB8aMU8

Palmetto Q57 (sweet spot) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McvLJym0lhg

There's also a 4th video at:

Palmetto Q49 (run through the rack) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8uEfDExUR4

Our "Center Best" autonomous mode (the best of 14 modes including "Martian Rock") works like this:

1) Look for lights from the starting position

2) If we see two lights (very wide rectangle), make a choice:
2a) Centroid near the center, choose the dark foot
2b) Otherwise choose left or right depending on which the centroid is closer to

3) If the centroid is near enough the center, skip the next step

4) Attempt to acquire "the beam" (straight out from the foot) by turning the robot to move and track the centroid on the OPPOSITE side of the viewfinder as what it currently is. Continue driving this arc until the rectangle is either wider than it is tall or the tilt of the camera indicates that we're too close.

5) After arriving "on the beam" or if we start out with the light in the middle, drive the robot tracking the centroid in the center of the viewfinder using a PID controlling the speed targeting a pre-determined camera tilt value which puts the front of the robot about 2-4 inches INSIDE the rack.

6) When (if) the Easy button trigger hits the spider foot, activate scoring by dropping our face, cutting the vacuum (dropping the tube), raising the face and simultaneously backing the robot away from the rack. This is the same scoring sequence used automatically in tele-operated mode which is what made our robot so quick to score and hard to defend. We had no communication delay between the drive and manipulator when scoring.

7) If we arrive at too close a tilt or it takes too long to hit the trigger or the number of lights change, engage a retry sequence that backs the robot up a bit, waits for a new light acquisition, and goes back to step 5. This is why TyRap VII would back up sometimes during its approach to the rack, sometimes even right at the start which was rather disconcerting to the drive team.

To see some of our less-than-successful attempts at side and reverse (other end) scoring, pull the Palmetto and UCF autonomous from BitTorrent.

Lynn (D) - Team Voltage Video Hustler

PS. There are MPG versions of these available via BitTorrent at http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:30049 Look for the 2007 386 Autonomous *.mpg .torrents.

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 20:53

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhoizner (Post 622533)
Here is a link to a compilation on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Em65OpwCY

If you need it, I can put the file up on a filesharing site.

All navigation was done based on camera feedback, with a gyro used to stabilize the robot while scoring the keeper itself.

I can't used youtube. Give me a url where file is.

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 20:55

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ldeffenb (Post 622534)
386's most successful autonomous modes can be seen on YouTube at

Archimedes Autonmous (all 14) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iZxxcQADhM

Palmetto Q29 (double retry) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_2BXB8aMU8

Palmetto Q57 (sweet spot) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McvLJym0lhg

There's also a 4th video at:

Palmetto Q49 (run through the rack) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8uEfDExUR4

Our "Center Best" autonomous mode (the best of 14 modes including "Martian Rock") works like this:

1) Look for lights from the starting position

2) If we see two lights (very wide rectangle), make a choice:
2a) Centroid near the center, choose the dark foot
2b) Otherwise choose left or right depending on which the centroid is closer to

3) If the centroid is near enough the center, skip the next step

4) Attempt to acquire "the beam" (straight out from the foot) by turning the robot to move and track the centroid on the OPPOSITE side of the viewfinder as what it currently is. Continue driving this arc until the rectangle is either wider than it is tall or the tilt of the camera indicates that we're too close.

5) After arriving "on the beam" or if we start out with the light in the middle, drive the robot tracking the centroid in the center of the viewfinder using a PID controlling the speed targeting a pre-determined camera tilt value which puts the front of the robot about 2-4 inches INSIDE the rack.

6) When (if) the Easy button trigger hits the spider foot, activate scoring by dropping our face, cutting the vacuum (dropping the tube), raising the face and simultaneously backing the robot away from the rack. This is the same scoring sequence used automatically in tele-operated mode which is what made our robot so quick to score and hard to defend. We had no communication delay between the drive and manipulator when scoring.

7) If we arrive at too close a tilt or it takes too long to hit the trigger or the number of lights change, engage a retry sequence that backs the robot up a bit, waits for a new light acquisition, and goes back to step 5. This is why TyRap VII would back up sometimes during its approach to the rack, sometimes even right at the start which was rather disconcerting to the drive team.

To see some of our less-than-successful attempts at side and reverse (other end) scoring, pull the Palmetto and UCF autonomous from BitTorrent.

Lynn (D) - Team Voltage Video Hustler

PS. There are MPG versions of these available via BitTorrent at http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:30049 Look for the 2007 386 Autonomous *.mpg .torrents.


Part of what you do is similiar to 1902, of course we didn't have an "easy button". Have have several videos of Atlanta I will use on of those. I like the one you were hit and did it any way.

pafwl 26-04-2007 21:12

FIRST Philly regional -- 272 autonomous
 
Lansdale Catholic Cyber-Crusaders 272, Lansdale PA
Here is our autonomous. Check out the camera dome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnr2f4P9OJg

Doug Leppard 26-04-2007 21:21

Re: FIRST Philly regional -- 272 autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pafwl (Post 622553)
Lansdale Catholic Cyber-Crusaders 272, Lansdale PA
Here is our autonomous. Check out the camera dome...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnr2f4P9OJg

Very cool, but can not use youtube, send me url of actual file like on soap or something.

Joe Ross 26-04-2007 21:26

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
330: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...07/ca_qm36.avi

We just dead reckoned using potentiometers on the wheel and arm.
We were 1/16 at LA, 2/18 at San Diego and 3/15 at the Championship.

Also, 48 pushing us into perfect scoring position: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...7/cur_f1m2.wmv

987HighRoller 27-04-2007 13:19

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Einstein final match 2
and
Newton final match 1
Newton Qual. 55
We were 3/8 (attempted in qualifying, didn't do normal auto in elims) in Vegas, and in Atlanta we were 2/7 in qualifying, and 2/13 in elims.
We use the camera to aim our turreted arm while the robot drives forward for about 2 seconds, then the robot's distance from the light is adjusted by the camera.
The better videos are Newton finals 2 and Newton qualification 55.

David Doerr 28-04-2007 10:42

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Autonomous Mode Information from the HOT Team:


Video: GLR_SF1M1 and GLR_QM20, GLR_QM38, or CUR_078

Double-keeper scoring with Team 1114 at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qf1m1.wmv

Scoring on a low-level spider at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qm20.wmv

Scoring on a mid-level spider at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qm38.wmv

Scoring on a mid-level spider on Curie:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTcur_078.wmv

And here is our own autonomous video compilation offering...
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTAutonomous.wmv


Method: Camera

We used the camera both to steer towards a lamp and to position at the spider for scoring. The camera was mounted on the arm via a linkage so that, theoretically, it would remain somewhat level as the arm moved through its operating range. However, before using the camera, we raised the arm to the low-level spider scoring position to prepare for stable tracking while the robot drove. After the arm stabilized in driving position, control was transferred to the camera driving function while the robot was still at its starting position. In retrospect, we could have saved time by having the robot drive onto the field while raising the arm as it appears many other teams did.

Our first autonomous program would score only on a low-level spider. We were so pleased with the result that we spent March 9th at the Great Lakes Regional developing a mid-level spider scoring program. You can see the effect of the development process reflected in the poor scores shown below on March 9th. Mid-level presented a problem because, when we raised our arm to the mid-level position the keeper held by the arm blocked the camera from seeing the lamp. We solved that problem by waiting until the robot had almost reached the spider before raising the arm all of the way to score.

Arriving at Curie we had another problem to solve - our camera seemed to be distracted by the bright lighting. We hadn't had camera problems like that before - we should have loaded the FIRST-supplied camera values first thing on reaching Atlanta. Loading those solved the problem, but we should have done it earlier in the day. Live and learn.


Statistics: 67%

Team 67 scored successfully in autonomous mode almost exactly 67% of the time. (Thanks to Adam Freeman for pointing this out.)

Venue Match Spider Date
Great Lakes Regional Q3 Mid March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q12 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q20 Low March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q38 Mid March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q46 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q56 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q60 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q68 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional Q79 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional QF1-1 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional QF1-2 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional SF1-1 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional SF1-2 - March 10
Great Lakes Regional Total 8/13 = 62%

West Michigan Regional Video Not Available
West Michigan Regional Total 8/11 = 73%

Championship - Curie Q3 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q16 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q29 Mid April 13
Championship - Curie Q45 Mid April 13
Championship - Curie Q58 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q78 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie Q91 Low April 14
Championship - Curie Q101 ? April 14
Championship - Curie QF1-1 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie QF1-2 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-1 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-2 Low April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-3 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie F1 Low April 14
Championship - Curie F2 - April 14
Championship - Curie F2Retry Low April 14
Championship - Curie Total 11/16 = 69%

2007 Season Total 27/40 = 67%


This has been a great autonomous season for us - we learned a lot. We enjoyed seeing what everyone did with autonomous mode this season and working our own autonomous. It was fun to be able to successfully develop a new autonomous mode while at the Great Lake Regional, and it was especially thrilling to be able to partner with Team 1114 in autonomous mode together. We're looking forward to next time.

Doug Leppard 28-04-2007 11:23

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Doerr (Post 622935)
Autonomous Mode Information from the HOT Team:


Video: GLR_SF1M1 and GLR_QM20, GLR_QM38, or CUR_078

Double-keeper scoring with Team 1114 at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qf1m1.wmv

Scoring on a low-level spider at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qm20.wmv

Scoring on a mid-level spider at the Great Lakes Regional:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTglr_qm38.wmv

Scoring on a mid-level spider on Curie:
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTcur_078.wmv

And here is our own autonomous video compilation offering...
http://www.DarkMatterFLL.org/2007HOTAutonomous.wmv


Method: Camera

We used the camera both to steer towards a lamp and to position at the spider for scoring. The camera was mounted on the arm via a linkage so that, theoretically, it would remain somewhat level as the arm moved through its operating range. However, before using the camera, we raised the arm to the low-level spider scoring position to prepare for stable tracking while the robot drove. After the arm stabilized in driving position, control was transferred to the camera driving function while the robot was still at its starting position. In retrospect, we could have saved time by having the robot drive onto the field while raising the arm as it appears many other teams did.

Our first autonomous program would score only on a low-level spider. We were so pleased with the result that we spent March 9th at the Great Lakes Regional developing a mid-level spider scoring program. You can see the effect of the development process reflected in the poor scores shown below on March 9th. Mid-level presented a problem because, when we raised our arm to the mid-level position the keeper held by the arm blocked the camera from seeing the lamp. We solved that problem by waiting until the robot had almost reached the spider before raising the arm all of the way to score.

Arriving at Curie we had another problem to solve - our camera seemed to be distracted by the bright lighting. We hadn't had camera problems like that before - we should have loaded the FIRST-supplied camera values first thing on reaching Atlanta. Loading those solved the problem, but we should have done it earlier in the day. Live and learn.


Statistics: 67%

Team 67 scored successfully in autonomous mode almost exactly 67% of the time. (Thanks to Adam Freeman for pointing this out.)

Venue Match Spider Date
Great Lakes Regional Q3 Mid March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q12 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q20 Low March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q38 Mid March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q46 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q56 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q60 - March 9
Great Lakes Regional Q68 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional Q79 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional QF1-1 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional QF1-2 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional SF1-1 Mid March 10
Great Lakes Regional SF1-2 - March 10
Great Lakes Regional Total 8/13 = 62%

West Michigan Regional Video Not Available
West Michigan Regional Total 8/11 = 73%

Championship - Curie Q3 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q16 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q29 Mid April 13
Championship - Curie Q45 Mid April 13
Championship - Curie Q58 - April 13
Championship - Curie Q78 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie Q91 Low April 14
Championship - Curie Q101 ? April 14
Championship - Curie QF1-1 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie QF1-2 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-1 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-2 Low April 14
Championship - Curie SF1-3 Mid April 14
Championship - Curie F1 Low April 14
Championship - Curie F2 - April 14
Championship - Curie F2Retry Low April 14
Championship - Curie Total 11/16 = 69%

2007 Season Total 27/40 = 67%


This has been a great autonomous season for us - we learned a lot. We enjoyed seeing what everyone did with autonomous mode this season and working our own autonomous. It was fun to be able to successfully develop a new autonomous mode while at the Great Lake Regional, and it was especially thrilling to be able to partner with Team 1114 in autonomous mode together. We're looking forward to next time.

Got it. Great show,

DanDon 28-04-2007 11:58

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here is a link to the team 375 autonomous compilation video.

Feel free to choose your favorite(s)!

http://dhoizner.files-upload.com/fil...ompilation.wmv

Thanks for doing this, should be an awesome video!,

/dan

Darren Collins 28-04-2007 22:37

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
The compilation video sounds like a great idea. Thanks for doing the work to put it together.

Here are a couple of videos showing 2046's autonomous on Curie. Our robot uses the camera to score on the middle spider leg under a light. We were 5 for 7 on Curie.

Curie Qualification #27 http://files.filefront.com//;7373893;;/

Compilation of 2046's Curie Auto http://files.filefront.com//;7373970;;/

yoyodyne 28-04-2007 23:45

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
One video of our autonomous mode on Galileo is here:

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=4326

We were pretty lucky to get it working since our camera wiring harness still had some shorts in it until Thursday afternoon in Atlanta. We never had a chance to try to power up our 2007 camera before ship and were not able to establish comms at VCU. We had done as much work as we could with our 2006 camera during fix-it-windows. There are a number of posts on the problems we had operating the camera in polled mode using three virtual windows.

This link is for our simplest mode that seeks the target with the highest confidence value (assuming we see two targets). If you watch closely, the robot rotates to the target drives fast until it is 12 feet from the target, drives slower and stops at 8 feet. At that point the arm is raised to the scoring height (all three levels can be selected via the LCD control panel) and the rest of the mode uses the gyro and timers to finish up because we thought the camera would be blocked at the mid or high level.

Doug Leppard 29-04-2007 09:09

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dhoizner (Post 622943)
Here is a link to the team 375 autonomous compilation video.

Feel free to choose your favorite(s)!

http://dhoizner.files-upload.com/fil...ompilation.wmv

Thanks for doing this, should be an awesome video!,

/dan

Got it.

Doug Leppard 29-04-2007 09:14

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D Collins (Post 623054)
The compilation video sounds like a great idea. Thanks for doing the work to put it together.

Here are a couple of videos showing 2046's autonomous on Curie. Our robot uses the camera to score on the middle spider leg under a light. We were 5 for 7 on Curie.

Curie Qualification #27 http://files.filefront.com//;7373893;;/

Compilation of 2046's Curie Auto http://files.filefront.com//;7373970;;/

Got it.

Doug Leppard 29-04-2007 09:26

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 622478)
Here is a autonomous compilation video that I recently made, showcasing our successful caps. In order, from the video's sequence, the matches are:

NJ Match 39 (This keeper actually didn't count, as it was supported by the stinger.
NJ Match 11
UTC Match 64 (One bot from each alliance capping, us on blue, 1124 on red.)
Galileo Match 22 (Nice close up shot.)
Galileo Match 82
Galileo Match 90* (1126 positions correctly, but knocks off their keeper as they back away. We cap ours on the same alliance.)
UTC Match 52**
NJ Finals 1*
NJ Finals 2***

Match 52 from Galileo, Match 52, and the NJ Finals are my favorites. (I'm still amazed at how we scored in match 52 after slamming into the rack and pulling up from beneath the spider.) As for our method, we used a single ultrasonic sensor to determine the proper distance from the base of the rack. During the matches at NJ, we used the CMUcam to align left/right towards the light, if it were in the view of the camera, and if not it would proceed to use the sonic sensor code. At UTC, we experienced camera troubles, and decided to just use the sonic sensors, and try our best to determine/guess where the spider leg would be after the rack had been moved. At championships, we solely used this method, and scored during 3 out of our 7 qualification matches.

The asterisks indicate my preference on which are the most entertaining to be used for the video, three stars being the highest.

Got it, great job.

Doug Leppard 29-04-2007 09:32

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 622559)
330: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...07/ca_qm36.avi

We just dead reckoned using potentiometers on the wheel and arm.
We were 1/16 at LA, 2/18 at San Diego and 3/15 at the Championship.

Also, 48 pushing us into perfect scoring position: http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...7/cur_f1m2.wmv

got it.

ericand 30-04-2007 18:38

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Not a real good shot of what happened, but here is 1425 scoring on the bounce in QF 2 in Las Vegas. Not our best working auto-mode, but our most unique.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=3165

I could not get the SOAP url since the soap site seems to be down at the moment.

The next match is an example of how it was supposed to work - efficiently but boring.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=3161

Doug Leppard 01-05-2007 18:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ericand (Post 623562)
Not a real good shot of what happened, but here is 1425 scoring on the bounce in QF 2 in Las Vegas. Not our best working auto-mode, but our most unique.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=3165

I could not get the SOAP url since the soap site seems to be down at the moment.

The next match is an example of how it was supposed to work - efficiently but boring.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...p?matchid=3161

Got it. I like boring, just get the job done. Most of ours are boring.

The Lucas 03-05-2007 14:30

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Team 365
Curie Q56 http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...7/cur_qm56.wmv

This match is my favorite because 716 shakes the rack with its dead reckoning auto attempt but MOEzilla hits it anyway on a slightly offset spider. Also, with 4 teams attempting keepers there is a lot of movement.

We use the camera, gyro, wheel encoders and occasionally sonar and IR sensors. If I get some time I will writeup something about the decision making and step based nature of the code. Also I will try to lookup our stats later but I wanted to get a video to you in time.

dtengineering 03-05-2007 15:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here's our most entertaining auto:

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...hp?matchid=281

Jason

P.S. Thanks again to the Blue Alliance, Soap, and all the video editors for making this so easily available.

Doug Leppard 03-05-2007 15:31

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas (Post 624435)
Team 365
Curie Q56 http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...7/cur_qm56.wmv

This match is my favorite because 716 shakes the rack with its dead reckoning auto attempt but MOEzilla hits it anyway on a slightly offset spider. Also, with 4 teams attempting keepers there is a lot of movement.

We use the camera, gyro, wheel encoders and occasionally sonar and IR sensors. If I get some time I will writeup something about the decision making and step based nature of the code. Also I will try to lookup our stats later but I wanted to get a video to you in time.

Got it. That was good. It will be used. You don't have to send more info at this point.

Doug Leppard 03-05-2007 15:35

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 624441)
Here's our most entertaining auto:

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv...hp?matchid=281

Jason

P.S. Thanks again to the Blue Alliance, Soap, and all the video editors for making this so easily available.

That is classis! I love it. Problem is it says the video is not available for download. Bummer I would like to use it. Do you know of a downlaodable version and what team was it?

JayZ 05-05-2007 22:20

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
here are a few videos of team 79's autonomous mode. they are all from atlanta on the Galileo field.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_052.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_078.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_101.wmv

we started by clamping the ringer and waiting until we found the light. we chose beforehand whether we would then wait 5 seconds extra for another team's autonomous to move out of the way. then we turned toward the light as we drove forward. once the camera told us we were close enough we quickly spun the wheels backwards for a short time to make us stop immediately. we moved the arm to a preset position based on a potentiometer, then let go of the keeper and backed up.

Doug Leppard 06-05-2007 07:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayZ (Post 624828)
here are a few videos of team 79's autonomous mode. they are all from atlanta on the Galileo field.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_052.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_078.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2...al/gal_101.wmv

we started by clamping the ringer and waiting until we found the light. we chose beforehand whether we would then wait 5 seconds extra for another team's autonomous to move out of the way. then we turned toward the light as we drove forward. once the camera told us we were close enough we quickly spun the wheels backwards for a short time to make us stop immediately. we moved the arm to a preset position based on a potentiometer, then let go of the keeper and backed up.

I always enjoy watching 79's auto mode. the flip over is really something to watch.

You are defintely in the video. I just finished this morning in collecting the videos. I have 31 robots at this point doing auto mode.

Koko Ed 06-05-2007 09:17

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
The two times our autonomous was successful were in the quarters at Buckeye. A couple of the best matches we had all year too.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2.../oh_qf4m2x.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2.../oh_qf4m3x.wmv

Doug Leppard 06-05-2007 14:14

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 624877)
The two times our autonomous was successful were in the quarters at Buckeye. A couple of the best matches we had all year too.
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2.../oh_qf4m2x.wmv
http://www.soap.circuitrunners.com/2.../oh_qf4m3x.wmv

Fanatastic. I didn't have a video for you guys, I added the video to our list.

PhilBot 19-05-2007 17:51

Team 1629 goes to the far side of the rack at PARCX
 
The clip below shows the auto mode that we never got to try at regionals.

In this match, 5 of the 6 robots had an autonomous mode. In this clip "Sticky" the Garrett Coalition (1629) bot makes a highspeed run to the far end of the field, sideswiping a blocking robot and then turns back to the rack and rings a keeper on the middle level.

A gyro is used to hold the heading in the straight run and initial turn, then the camera is used to get a range and bearing on the target.

YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kuUp9Rvw8

The hi-res clip is here:
http://www.gearsinc.org/images/1629_full_auto.wmv

The raw video is here:
http://www.gearsinc.org/images/1629_raw_fullauto.wmv

Phil.

Doug Leppard 19-05-2007 22:17

Re: Team 1629 goes to the far side of the rack at PARCX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilBot (Post 628003)
The clip below shows the auto mode that we never got to try at regionals.

In this match, 5 of the 6 robots had an autonomous mode. In this clip "Sticky" the Garrett Coalition (1629) bot makes a highspeed run to the far end of the field, sideswiping a blocking robot and then turns back to the rack and rings a keeper on the middle level.

A gyro is used to hold the heading in the straight run and initial turn, then the camera is used to get a range and bearing on the target.

YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kuUp9Rvw8

The hi-res clip is here:
http://www.gearsinc.org/images/1629_full_auto.wmv

The raw video is here:
http://www.gearsinc.org/images/1629_raw_fullauto.wmv

Phil.

that was great, soemthing we had planned but ran out of time, glad to see you do it.

Tim Arnold 23-05-2007 22:00

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
If its not too late to post videos... Here is ours which unfortunately were all (technically) failures. However, it consistently saved us critical time by flipping down the gripper and backing up a little bit. Plus, it was always suspenseful and somewhat entertaining to see how close/way far off the bot would be each match.

As for technical details, our method is almost identical to team 25's:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun
As for our method, we used a single ultrasonic sensor to determine the proper distance from the base of the rack. During the matches at NJ, we used the CMUcam to align left/right towards the light, if it were in the view of the camera, and if not it would proceed to use the sonic sensor code. At UTC, we experienced camera troubles, and decided to just use the sonic sensors, and try our best to determine/guess where the spider leg would be after the rack had been moved.

At UCF, we had planned to use the camera to run some decent (but mostly un-tested) autonomous modes, but when it caught fire during practice day we never had the time to figure out what exactly was wrong.

The entire robot was re-coded/ported to EasyC between UCF and the Championship event, and a single Vex ultrasonic module was mounted just above the rear bumper, and a magnetic read switch from home security systems was mounted on the arm base and arm chain to determine when the arm was in the correct place. The code is fairly simple, and basically had two cases: 1) Too far: Drive forward 2) Too close, back up. Variables were used to determine the ideal distance, and the window decreased each program loop until it was as close as reasonably possible.

With no way to point the robot, it was sheer dumb luck, and we simply were not as lucky as team 25. On the positive side of things, we determined that the camera's *wiring* burnt up, not the actual camera. So hopefully we will have something more advanced set in motion come Mission Mayhem time :).

Google video preview: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...97900448188076
High quality download ( http://marsbot.org/files/Auton07.wmv )

Doug Leppard 24-05-2007 06:53

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Arnold (Post 628907)
If its not too late to post videos... Here is ours which unfortunately were all (technically) failures. However, it consistently saved us critical time by flipping down the gripper and backing up a little bit. Plus, it was always suspenseful and somewhat entertaining to see how close/way far off the bot would be each match.

I am working on putting the videos together. So it is not too late. Good tries. I have decided not to include any FIRST non-competition videos. But I have not thought to include unsuccesfull tries. Let me think about it.

I think you gave a great effort. I know we could not have put together our autonomous in the midst of competition, so I commend you.

This video has been a lot of hard work and being with a team (1902) that their season seems to never stop (met last night) there is not a lot of time. I am getting close but not quite there.

Doug Leppard 24-05-2007 06:56

Re: Team 1629 goes to the far side of the rack at PARCX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilBot (Post 628003)
The clip below shows the auto mode that we never got to try at regionals.

In talking to others, I have decided to include only videos from official competions else the project would never end and it puts everyone on same playing field.

But let me say, you did something we wanted to do.

Doug Leppard 04-07-2007 17:56

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Here is what I have so far on the video. I put all of them together have about 30+ robots.

Now the problem I have had is that the video is 9.5 minutes and 130mb. Youtube has a limit of 10 minutes and 100mb. I can't seem to figure out how to shrink the video more so that has held me up.

I am on the road a lot this summer, I am in Korea now and back to Orlando for six day and then in Colorado and California for the next month.

If anyone has ideas how to either shrink the video it would help or post it somewhere besides youtube. I am using Vegas Movie Studio 6.0.

Thanks

Joe Ross 04-07-2007 18:26

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 633854)
If anyone has ideas how to either shrink the video it would help or post it somewhere besides youtube. I am using Vegas Movie Studio 6.0.

Thanks

I don't know what the restrictions are for FirstTube, but this would seem to be appropriate: htp://tfirsttube.org

http://www.putfile.com/ has a limit of 200 megs, so you should be ok. You can also upload to google video if you download their desktop uploader.

There are also likely options in your video editor that allow you to decrease the video size or quality to make the file size smaller.

Doug Leppard 06-07-2007 21:26

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Thanks to Joe of 330 I am using putfile for the video.

See the video at:
http://media.putfile.com/FIRST-Autonomous-modes-2007

Please do the following:
1. Make sure I have the right bot number with the right video piece.
2. There is one section I do not have numbers, tell me what the bots are and I will change that.
3. I will add robots I missed but I need to be able to download the video and it must be in mpg mode, I had trouble with some of the AVI videos. It must be a video from an official 2007 competition, no off season or practice sessions.
4. No I don't want to change your robot video for another video segment. I spent a lot of time looking at a lot of videos. It takes a lot of time and I have very little of that. so hopefully you will be happy with what I put in video, tried to use the one you suggested in emails.
5. If you want the video let me know especially if there is someplace I can upload it so everyone can have it.
6. If someone wants to edit this video better let me know, video editing is not my strength.

Once we get the final video I will post it to a new thread in CD.

Dan Petrovic 07-07-2007 00:03

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
I believe the two teams in the segment you don't have numbers for are 191 and 1038.

Guy Davidson 17-11-2007 21:19

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Sorry to bump up an old thread, but I think this is the best place to ask this question. All of you who had butt-kicking autonomous modes last years, what did you use? Which sensors, custom circuits, and special logic? What pointers would you have that generally lead to a quality autonomous mode?

Thanks

Doug Leppard 17-11-2007 22:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
#1 best secret. Hardware done by end of week five, that gave us a week to practice driving and auto mode. Auto mode just takes time. So dependable hardware and done with enough time to spend lots of time perfecting it.

#2 we had a 3/4 size field to practice auto mode.

#3 we used easyproC for fast developing and more people could do it.

#4 we proto typed lots of sensors using vex to when we go the hardware we didn't start from scratch but knew what we could do and not do with sensors and had routines working.

For 2007 we used the camera. 2006 we used gyro mainly. Previous years we use IR sensors and wheel encoders. Really depends on the contest. We have also tested sonic sensors.

Suggest practice using vex with all the sensors to get a feel for them.

Guy Davidson 20-11-2007 02:45

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Very interesting. Thanks Doug. Obviously we'd love to (and hopefully will) have the hardware done by the end of week five. We're planning to do our own thing with a coprocessor this year, so we're starting it early to give us time to work out kinks. We'll definitely try to get some time on a practice field and test as many sensors as we think we might use, so we can use them if we need to.

Doug Leppard 20-11-2007 08:29

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 652754)
Very interesting. Thanks Doug. Obviously we'd love to (and hopefully will) have the hardware done by the end of week five. We're planning to do our own thing with a coprocessor this year, so we're starting it early to give us time to work out kinks. We'll definitely try to get some time on a practice field and test as many sensors as we think we might use, so we can use them if we need to.

In 2006 the hardware guys saw how important the auto mode was. So they decided that it was not an option to finish by week 5. They kept the pressure on it and cut out things to make it done by week 5.

I have been in seasons that it wasn’t even finished at the 1st competition and took all of the practice day, then we had times we finished just before time to put it in the crate, then last year finishing at end of week 5. I tell you the team was so much more ready for competition by finishing by week 5.

Guy Davidson 21-11-2007 01:21

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 652774)
In 2006 the hardware guys saw how important the auto mode was. So they decided that it was not an option to finish by week 5. They kept the pressure on it and cut out things to make it done by week 5.

I have been in seasons that it wasn’t even finished at the 1st competition and took all of the practice day, then we had times we finished just before time to put it in the crate, then last year finishing at end of week 5. I tell you the team was so much more ready for competition by finishing by week 5.

Thanks Doug. As a programmer, I hope they keep making autonomous more interesting and important, as that's the most interesting part of the competition for us (that, and designing good control algorithms for our drivers). I guess I'll have to try and ask our build guys to do their best to finish (heh, as if they don't already do), so we'll get as much robot time as we can.

Doug Leppard 21-11-2007 09:02

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 652968)
Thanks Doug. As a programmer, I hope they keep making autonomous more interesting and important, as that's the most interesting part of the competition for us (that, and designing good control algorithms for our drivers). I guess I'll have to try and ask our build guys to do their best to finish (heh, as if they don't already do), so we'll get as much robot time as we can.

Can you take the 2007 robot and do some of the programming? Assuming you have the same base. Try to do as much as possible before the week 6. Our programmers worked the whole time, but especially week 6.

Guy Davidson 22-11-2007 03:05

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 653000)
Can you take the 2007 robot and do some of the programming? Assuming you have the same base. Try to do as much as possible before the week 6. Our programmers worked the whole time, but especially week 6.

We can. Better yet, we're working on a practice drive train right now, that will hopefully closely resemble the competition one. It will have an entire IFI control system with all the electronics, and we will be using it to program before the real one is done, and probably do some work on our co-processor solution before the season starts.

Doug Leppard 22-11-2007 06:25

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 653160)
....probably do some work on our co-processor solution before the season starts.

What are you using the co-processor for?

Guy Davidson 22-11-2007 14:37

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Leppard (Post 653167)
What are you using the co-processor for?

We're looking into using it as a learning experience and something big we (myself and a few others) can do in my (and some of theirs') senior year to learn and leave for the team to use. We have to first get the system up and running, probably building on what the AdamBots did and using a gumstix. Eventually, our goal is for the coprocessor to read and handle sensor inputs, as well as receieve the user inputs from the OI (via the RC), and do all computation and logic. We might end up leaving some sensors connected to the RC if it ends up being easier. We think it will be a great learning experience, but for game use, it will let us run as many sensors as we want, do high-level logic with them, and as much floating point and trig as we need to without worrying about the RC. If you have any comments, ideas, or suggestions, we'll be more than happy to hear them, as the project is still in its very early stages right now.

Doug Leppard 22-11-2007 22:32

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
[quote=sumadin;653203]...the coprocessor to read and handle sensor inputs, as well as receieve the user inputs from the OI (via the RC),.. [quote]

In 2003, first time they had autonomous mode, the then processor was very slow and bad. To do the autonomous mode we had to make a co-processor to process the quad encoders we used for the auto mode.

But the 2007 processor seems fine but I have always wanted to make a data logger.

Guy Davidson 22-11-2007 23:37

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
[quote=Doug Leppard;653228][quote=sumadin;653203]...the coprocessor to read and handle sensor inputs, as well as receieve the user inputs from the OI (via the RC),..
Quote:


In 2003, first time they had autonomous mode, the then processor was very slow and bad. To do the autonomous mode we had to make a co-processor to process the quad encoders we used for the auto mode.

But the 2007 processor seems fine but I have always wanted to make a data logger.
As I said, we're interested in this partially for the challenge and learning, as well as for the advantages it will give us.

After we get all the basics up and running, I had a few more advanced ideas in mind. One of them would be a StangPS resembling system, that would record the position (in x and y) and the angle of the robot, using a gyro and an encoder. Are you thinking of data logging for the in-game purposes, or something to be analyzed between matches? What data would you record and why?

Doug Leppard 23-11-2007 18:45

Re: Post URL to your autonomous mode
 
[quote=sumadin;653237][quote=Doug Leppard;653228]
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 653203)
Are you thinking of data logging for the in-game purposes, or something to be analyzed between matches? What data would you record and why?

Collect data during the game and if something goes wrong have data to check to figure out what went wrong. This is especially helpful in the auto mode period.

What would collect is the sensor data, but maybe readings on key parts of the robot.

I used to do very difficult autonomous games that the robot would do all the game in auto mode. Data collection was very important in figuring out what the robot was trying to do and what the sensors were reading.


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