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hmm... maybe if we offer dave donuts he will put us out of our misery(give us a hint dave... not kill us... lol.. not really... its wayy past my bedtime... im sleeping now...)

-vivek

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lol...im always staying up past my bedtime:D :rolleyes:

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To be honest I hate these threads before the game hint is released but I thought it would be a good laugh to see some of you guys' responses so I started this. Many of you are just saying the first thing that pops into your mind. THIS is one of the ONLY plausible interpretations so far in this thread IMO. I am expecting squares.

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yeah.... or we could spend every waking moment analyzing this phrase until we get something from it like: robots will carry donuts made of jello or the like :D

-vivek

p.s. yeah I think that the cuboid theory is the most plausible.

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I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if it was just his way of identifying the Kinex toys, as in, the pieces are a form of the generic "building blocks" concept?

After all, what else would you call them?

Kinex sticks?

I'm giving my team a head start with what I know about jello. I'll share it here after they have had a few days to mull it over.

Hint you have to be old to remember this bit of trivia.

I think what I have to share will shake things up. Maybe Woody wasn't expecting someone my age to be pondering his clues.

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Waiting for another hint or january 5th is killing me:eek: :ahh:

I've had to try to keep myself occupied by scouting, starting robotics projects, ect.

I will be really dissapointed if FIRST does not give another more official hint.

Or maybe Dave could give us another false lead to keep us occupied.:D

Oh well... :rolleyes:

Back to waiting :)

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How about there are times where you want to put the pieces in and times where you don't want to. I really think the game pieces are going to be balls that move on their own and you have to put them in wheel type bin. in certain periods You can score more points by placing the balls in that time frame where as at certain points it may cost you points. The wheel may even move itself! I think they may change the style of game play so it is a free for all, but not too sure about that. There will definitely be less defense and more offense though, that is for sure!

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I can't explain it but I am ready for this year (I am usually dreading it a bit at this point)

So here I am reading game rumors.

BTW I heard from a source that there was a large truck near FIRST with footballs in it......

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Well, if we go along with the ever popular Box, Triangle, Circle theory that the game pieces cycle through the three different shapes in the FIRST logo (which is startlingly true), we are due for some boxes.

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Wow mathew mcfadden from my team is using a forum:ahh: :eek:

Wow matt you are really branching out.

BTW I'll let you know if victor three strikes again:p

Anyway I agree boxes are more likely.

However I think the Idea of footballs would be interesting although I'm not sure that a football truck outside FIRST means anything. It could just be delivering promotional items.

Another Idea that might be cool is more than two alliances. Maybe the white alliance (first colors)?

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what would it be like if Dave was the game piece?

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There are two theories that are popular. One is the INfamous "water game." The other is the "FIRST logo" theory. The only years that it applies to are 2003-2005.

Breaking down the games:
1997: inner tubes, circular
1998-2002: balls, with the exception of the "floppies" in 1999. All circular.
2003: bins, square
2004: balls again, circular
2005: tetras, triangular
2006: back to balls
2007: Pool tubes, circle

However,there is another pattern, one that tells me we're due for balls again. 1999, 2001 (coopertition and a balancing bridge), 2003, 2005, and 2007 all have some oddball game object. Every other year has balls as the game object. We had an odd one last year, so we should be due for balls again this year. Boxes, footballs, and the like are due up in 2009.

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I don't even no where to begin in analyzing this one. Maybe he was... I don't know... just kidding? I guess we'll see.

KICKOFF-JANUARY 5, 2008!!! Be there or be clueless!

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some thing with BALLS!!!!

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I'm still waiting for traffic cones :ahh:

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My best guess. I'm truly hoping for these, though I don't know why.

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My guess is there will be some sort of rotating table on the field. If the table is spun one way it will add points to the red teams the other will add points to the blue team.

This idea was kinda used in MIT's 2.007 2003 competition:
http://pergatory.mit.edu/2.007/conte...html/table.htm

-Jim

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Keeping an eye on the stock market...

Jello is down (See Chart)

K'Nex is a privately traded company, and gerbils aren't sold by one individual company, so they don't have a stock.

Thing aren't looking good for next years game.

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stock market goes up and down
jell-o - "watch it wiggle, watch it jiggle"
gerbils- um... squeak?
mabey a large running wheel of some kind
also gerbils will dig complex tunnel system if given the space and resources
if you check out the K'nex website you will find they invented the K'nex blocks - http://www.knex.com/
K'nex slogan is "if you can imagine it you can build it"

i believe that the next task might be a multi-layered tunnel maze that shakes with the scoreing peices at the low levels and you have to bring them to the top (stock market) sounds weird but thats my best guess
i'll keep thinking though

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when our team first saw this hint given by woodie, we thought of zorbs, which are like gerbil balls for people. They also jiggle, so that would even accommodate the jello part. As for the stock market thing, one of our senior members said: "Well, the stock market goes up and down, but lately just down."

So i'm hoping for human player on the field in these zorbs. they would be like the game pieces, also bringing in hte challenge of who do you want in the zorb?

Here's what a zorb looks like: http://static.flickr.com/44/110867008_ccecce3e9e.jpg

or just search zorb on google images, you'll get the idea pretty quickly. ;)

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thats really a cool idea, its the most plausible in depth game idea i have heard so far.

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thanks that means a lot :')
jk i didnt cry that hard
if only the tunnels were filled w/ water...
one can only hope
(that would b a HUGE problem if somehow the robot got stuck in a tube full of water, how would u get it out?)

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"stock market goes up and down
jell-o - "watch it wiggle, watch it jiggle"
gerbils- um... squeak?
mabey a large running wheel of some kind
also gerbils will dig complex tunnel system if given the space and resources
if you check out the K'nex website you will find they invented the K'nex blocks - http://www.knex.com/
K'nex slogan is "if you can imagine it you can build it"

i believe that the next task might be a multi-layered tunnel maze that shakes with the scoreing peices at the low levels and you have to bring them to the top (stock market) sounds weird but thats my best guess
i'll keep thinking though"


ok stockmarket,jello,gerbils. put in your prospective it makes alittle since. some type of wheel game, the only problem witht that is that how can you have a wiggle jiggle wheel? the wheel would pop off of whatever it is on also the field would have to be huge to fit a maze in. I think it might be a Rumble tower. Stock market tower with a jiggly jello base. and you have to run like hamsters up the tower. but we will see.

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Woody Flowers gave this hint

"Just be careful about the stock market, with jello, gerbils, and
K'nex blocks."


The first thing I thought of was Blue chip stocks, Jello coin wheels,
hamster wheels and for k'nex ferris wheels are a recurring theme ...

You are all too young to remember Jello coin wheels so here is a picture
that may get you thinking



A similar thing would be a poker chip stacker or caddy.

I'm thinking along the lines of rotating wheel like the jello wheel
above into which you have to stack chips something.

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Link to k'nex that illustrates how Ferris wheel centric they are.

http://www.knex.com/Shop/home.php?gc...FSdysgodUEAUtA

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Ok, that's my two cents

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It's a great idea. This is exactly the kind of ambiguous thinking usually found in clues. And of course everyone is expecting boxes.

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All,

I've only had a short history with FIRST, but from what I recall, the only "powered" devices on the field were the robots. All other elements such as the rack 2007 and earlier games were passive. No electrical or other power (light excluded). Maybe we should stay in that vein for speculation.

Regards,

R2D2DOC

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Almost correct. The exception was the "placebo" robots in the mid-late 1990s (1997 and 1998, I think?). "Autonomous brickbots" is a good description, from what I've heard.

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Check out the "Autodesk® VIZ" picture at the bottom of this web site It looks kinda FIRST-y and fits with the "the stock market, with jello, gerbils, and K'nex blocks"

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Actually there have been a few 'powered' field elements other than the robots(Team controlled or otherwise). A number of the ball dispensers have had some form of powered triggering to release balls. While I don't know of any main game elements having been powered, it is something that could happen.

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"Just be careful about the stock market, with jello, gerbils, and K'nex blocks."
Sooo..... Ummmm what did this have to do with this year's game again?

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Stock Market :: FIRST Community reaction to the game as the season progresses - much likes stocks rise and fall for no apparent reason

Jello :: The ball bounces like jello

Gerbils :: Gerbils run around in circles inside a cage just like our robots (the field does kinda look like a cage

K'Nex :: they probably used K'nex to model up their version of the field much like some CDers have already done.

I don't know - that was my best shot. What do you have?

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I don't know. I was kind of thinking about the same thing about the Gerbils, but all the other ones, especially stock market totally lost me.

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Stock Market = Wall(ed)Street, Jello = Trackball, Gerbils = Robots, K'nex Blocks = Overpass. Being careful about the stock market could also be sell high (above) and buy low (below). Combining these comes up with something like:

Gerbils chasing jello above or below k'nex on a walled street.

EDIT: Should have thought about it a little longer. Buying stocks low(below) is OK, 2pts, but selling stocks high (above) is better, 8pts. This would give you:

Gerbils passing jello above or below k'nex on a walled street.